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08-01-2008, 02:02 AM
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A 3rd or 4th? I know Pyatt isn't a superstar but i think he averages around 20 goals a season, has size that "he should learn to use". I would say he's worth a solid prospect or a second pick at least.
It's not hard to look up his stats. He does not average 20 goals a season. He had one 23 goal season after playing an entire season on the Sedin line. He played half of last season on the Sedin line and scored 16. Away from the Sedins he's good for about 12-15 tops.

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If the Canucks sign Sundin, why not keep Pyatt for the 3rd line and bury Cowan in the minors?
Well its mainly because Sundin's 10M puts us extremely close to the cap and Pyatt and his 1.575M cap hit might be pretty easy to move, and Pettinger is a similar player who is 460K cheaper, is a lot grittier and is a BC kid too.

I think Pettinger or Jannik Hansen might fit better with Burrows and Kesler and Hordichuk/Johnson + Brown or Krog on the 4th line.

Cowan needs to go though.

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IF the Canucks are going to deal Pyatt it's because of cap issues, and they'll move him for a pick. Probably could get a 2nd rounder for him.

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That's pretty acurate. Hansen is very easy to knock off the puck. That is if you can catch him. He has unbelievable speed and quickness. He looked a lot more dangerous than his numbers showed. But that has a lot to do with the 3rd line he played on for the most part. The kid is only 22 and doesn't turn 23 until March of next year. He's got some potential. He had 21 goals and 43 points in 50 games with the Moose this year.
This year, when he was up for a few games, he was pure madness along the boards - he just would go after the puck and keep it and not lose it, no matter what the D-men were doing to him. Got noticeably stronger, but didn't have much confidence in the offensive zone yet, since he just returned from his injury.

However, after he went back down to Manitoba, he was pretty much PPG+ down there. Being tutored by Mike Keane on his game without the puck and on the PK has just helped him out leaps and bounds.

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Hansen was also a +23 last season.

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Hansen was also a +23 last season.

Hansen absolutely tore it up about 8 games after he returned from his concussion up until the end of the season.

His all around game improved leaps and bounds under the tutelage of Mike Keane.

He is now 6'1 200 pounds, plays with a chip on his shoulder and willingly goes into the high traffic areas. And by the end of the season, he was sacrificing his body to block shots each game.

I think Hansen absolutely deserves to be a Canuck next year and would be a great addition to the top 9 forward group.

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Hansen absolutely tore it up about 8 games after he returned from his concussion up until the end of the season.

His all around game improved leaps and bounds under the tutelage of Mike Keane.

He is now 6'1 200 pounds, plays with a chip on his shoulder and willingly goes into the high traffic areas. And by the end of the season, he was sacrificing his body to block shots each game.

I think Hansen absolutely deserves to be a Canuck next year and would be a great addition to the top 9 forward group.
Yep. Sure sounds like it.

How did this turn from a Pyatt thread to a Hansen thread anyways?

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Yep. Sure sounds like it.

How did this turn from a Pyatt thread to a Hansen thread anyways?
Hansen is a more interesting read.

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Hansen is the "golden child" of underated prospects to make our team. The guy has so much love from several Canuck fans, tis crazy.

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^ Honestly, I do kind of like him more than Raymond. He seems to have Edler-like drive/composure/maturity/ability to improve. Leave it to Gradin..

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^ Honestly, I do kind of like him more than Raymond. He seems to have Edler-like drive/composure/maturity/ability to improve. Leave it to Gradin..
I like Hansen but Raymond is of similar size, speed, quickness, and has far better hands.

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Hansen is the "golden child" of underated prospects to make our team. The guy has so much love from several Canuck fans, tis crazy.
Proud to have been on the Hansen bandwagon for a few years.

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Proud to have been on the Hansen bandwagon for a few years.
Sticknrink has been spearheading the Hansen campaign ("He's a RW shot!") since the beginning, and its almost been comical at times.

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a. kost - pleks - kovy
tanguay - koivu - latendresse
pyatt - higgins - s. kost
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I like Hansen but Raymond is of similar size, speed, quickness, and has far better hands.
Well, I don't doubt that he'll be a far better offensive player, but personally I like Hansen's package/character a bit better (that's not to say Raymond is lacking in any of those areas). I see Hansen developing into a player with far more strength/battle than a Raymond will, with far superior defensive play and a bit more leadership/clutchness, and again he seems to have that Edler-like composure/passion/ability to drastically improve.

I don't know what exactly I'm basing that on, but comparing their time down in the Moose, that's always been my impression. Again, I love Raymond as a prospect as well, but I think he's going to be more of a one-dimensional (speed) offensive complement type guy who isn't going to be leading the charge by any means, whereas Hansen has a bit more of a Kesler-like intangible game in him while still showing quite a bit of offensive ability.

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He is worth atleast a 3rd rounder imo.

Very versatile forward as he showed he can play the PK or in a checking role. Not only that but his contract is very appealing at only 1.5 million for someone who has good size and can score 15 goals.

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It's not hard to look up his stats. He does not average 20 goals a season. He had one 23 goal season after playing an entire season on the Sedin line. He played half of last season on the Sedin line and scored 16. Away from the Sedins he's good for about 12-15 tops.
he played half a season on the Sedin line and scored 23

he also barely played with the Sedins this past year

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Don't understand the Hansen love either

He is one of those hybrid players
He's not talented enough for the Top 6... but he's too talented yet
not gritty enough for the bottom 6 ...in the AHL. So forget the NHL

So that fits him in as a career minor leaguer... and there's lots of them so
there's nothing to be ashamed of.

Don't forget he was picked 287th out of 291 players in the 2004 Draft...
That has to say something... The nucks had to pick someone, so they
picked him.

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Don't understand the Hansen love either

He is one of those hybrid players
He's not talented enough for the Top 6... but he's too talented yet
not gritty enough for the bottom 6 ...in the AHL. So forget the NHL

So that fits him in as a career minor leaguer... and there's lots of them so
there's nothing to be ashamed of.

Don't forget he was picked 287th out of 291 players in the 2004 Draft...
That has to say something... The nucks had to pick someone, so they
picked him.
You haven't seen Hansen play a single game by that post.

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Don't understand the Hansen love either

He is one of those hybrid players
He's not talented enough for the Top 6... but he's too talented yet
not gritty enough for the bottom 6 ...in the AHL. So forget the NHL

So that fits him in as a career minor leaguer... and there's lots of them so
there's nothing to be ashamed of.

Don't forget he was picked 287th out of 291 players in the 2004 Draft...
That has to say something... The nucks had to pick someone, so they
picked him.
Good job writing off Hansen as a career minor leaguer when he is only 21. He has 43 points in 50 games in the AHL and was the top player for Denmark at the WHC.

Taylor Pyatt is worth a 2nd rounder or a high end prospect. If they get Sundin, I suggest they move him fast before he decline in points as the season goes by.

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Good job writing off Hansen as a career minor leaguer when he is only 21. He has 43 points in 50 games in the AHL and was the top player for Denmark at the WHC.

Taylor Pyatt is worth a 2nd rounder or a high end prospect. If they get Sundin, I suggest they move him fast before he decline in points as the season goes by.

Do you honestly think Pyatt is worth a "high end prospect?"

I'd say a third rounder at best. Nucks paid a 4th for him when he was still seen as a young player with upside. Now, he is a big guy who doesn't use his size well and doesn't score much more than 30 points a year.

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Do you honestly think Pyatt is worth a "high end prospect?"

I'd say a third rounder at best. Nucks paid a 4th for him when he was still seen as a young player with upside. Now, he is a big guy who doesn't use his size well and doesn't score much more than 30 points a year.
Not in the lines of elite prospects, but guys that have put up solid points that are in their mid 20's but cannot get a role with their nhl team b/c of the amount of depth already on the farm, like Mikhail Grabovski.

I can see a second round pick. Other players that have not proven alot have been swapped for this pick, like Mika Noronen.

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Not in the lines of elite prospects, but guys that have put up solid points that are in their mid 20's but cannot get a role with their nhl team b/c of the amount of depth already on the farm, like Mikhail Grabovski.

I can see a second round pick. Other players that have not proven alot have been swapped for this pick, like Mika Noronen.

Mikka Noronen was a highly regarded young goalie who did not pan out. When he was traded, he was still seen as having #1 potential.

That is a much different situation than Pyatt, who has pretty clearly demonstrated that he'll never be an impact player in the NHL. If you can get a 2nd rounder for him, particularly in the deep 2009 draft, I'll be shocked. I can't think of a team in the NHL that would make that deal.

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Depends when you deal him, I can't see how you can't get a 2nd round pick for him at the deadline.

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Depends when you deal him, I can't see how you can't get a 2nd round pick for him at the deadline.

I won't pick on you for your double negative. However, 2nd rounders at the deadline tend to go for proven vets who can provide a bump as the playoffs approach. Sometimes they also go for very valuable role players. Pyatt is neither. He is a decent depth guy who might could get you 35 - 40 points with the right linemates.

In terms of the playoffs, he offers neither scoring, grit, nor especially effective defense. I don't see him as the kind of player who attracts the typical deadline overpayments.

If the Nucks were to give up a 2nd rounder for a player at Pyatt's level right now, you guys would be pretty annoyed.

I'll continue to peg his value around what the Nucks paid - perhaps a bit more (like a 3rd rounder - maybe).

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