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07-31-2008, 10:47 AM
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Accusations against Jonathan Roy

Le jeudi 31 juillet 2008

Jonathan Roy accusé de voies de fait

Marc St-Hilaire
CHICOUTIMI


Une accusation de voies de fait simple sans lésion a été enregistrée hier matin contre Jonathan Roy, relativement aux événements disgracieux survenus le 22 mars dernier, sur la glace du Centre Georges-Vézina de Chicoutimi.

Sanctionnée par le procureur responsable du district de Chicoutimi, Me Denis Dionne, la poursuite a été assermentée aux alentours de 10 h ce matin. Selon ce que Le Quotidien a appris, aucune charge ne sera retenue contre le père de l’accusé, l’ancien gardien de but étoile Patrick Roy, aujourd’hui entraîneur des Remparts de Québec de la Ligue de hockey junior majeur du Québec.

Âgé de 19 ans, Jonathan Roy, également un gardien de but, s’était jeté sur le cerbère des Saguenéens de Chicoutimi, Bobby Nadeau, lors d’une mêlée générale. Malgré le refus de Nadeau d’entreprendre le combat, le jeune Roy lui a violemment asséné une série de coups, avant de faire un doigt d’honneur aux partisans de l’équipe adverse.

Jonathan Roy comparaîtra au Palais de justice de Chicoutimi le 16 septembre prochain.

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Highlights for those who can't read French :

- The son of Patrick Roy, Jonathan Roy, has been charged (accused, indicted?) for assault without lesion, for the events in the March 22 game against Chicoutimi.

- No charges against Patrick Roy

- Jonathan Roy will be back in court on September 16th (and there will be a lot of journalists...)


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This is dumb

If this become a standard then a lot of players from the LNAH are going to find themselve behind bars soon


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Yeah...Ive never been a fan of the law becoming involved in hockey, and this is no exception...But Jonathan Roy is certainly not the epitomy of class

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well... if he cant play hockey anymore... he'll have his songs at least

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All this BS would have ended months ago if Courteau had the balls to suspend J.Roy for 30 games and his dad for 25 for their shenanigans.

The funny part is that non-Q fans think it's a goon leage when most teams don't even have an enforcer and fighting is about 1/3 what it was 10-12 years ago in the Flinn Ettinger Worrell Laraque Page Lessard ets era. You can 3-4 games between fights at times.

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If it cuts down on fights where CLEARLY a guy doesn't want to engage while the other keeps punching.....I really don't see what the problem is....

You want to fight, take somebody who wants to fight as well....don't be a ***** and attack people weaker than you....

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If it cuts down on fights where CLEARLY a guy doesn't want to engage while the other keeps punching.....I really don't see what the problem is....

You want to fight, take somebody who wants to fight as well....don't be a ***** and attack people weaker than you....
I agree with you. That was a assault, not a fight. No matter which activities you are practicing, this is a crime.

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If it cuts down on fights where CLEARLY a guy doesn't want to engage while the other keeps punching.....I really don't see what the problem is....

You want to fight, take somebody who wants to fight as well....don't be a ***** and attack people weaker than you....
I think Nadeau could have probably kicked Roy's ass(Roy is what, 155lbs?) but he just didn't want to fight and risk getting injured, perfectly understandable in a playoff series.

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I agree with you. That was a assault, not a fight. No matter which activities you are practicing, this is a crime.
Bingo.

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Without lesion?? Wow.

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Without lesion?? Wow.
Yeah, Roy is not a heavy hitter. Couldnt punch his way out of a brown paper bag..

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J Roy for UFC....after 30 hours community service is served at least.

BTW, I totally agree with Whitesnake.

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Yeah...Ive never been a fan of the law becoming involved in hockey, and this is no exception...But Jonathan Roy is certainly not the epitomy of class
Thing is, he skated up to a person who clearly wanted to avoid conflict and knocked him on his ass and the guy didn't even fight back, imo on or off the ice, this is assault.

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I think the incident was blown out of proportion and that it should have been handled at the league level (well it was to a certain extent). I have seen much much worse in my day and i think that charges are a bit excessive.


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I think the issue of 'did he know it was illegal' comes into play here.

You know you're going to get arrested if you do it on the street.
Did he actually think what he was doing was against the law?

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Thing is, he skated up to a person who clearly wanted to avoid conflict and knocked him on his ass and the guy didn't even fight back, imo on or off the ice, this is assault.
One can argue that throwing a baseball at another's head at 90 mph is assault with a deadly weapon.

This stuff happens every now and then...the difference is that it was in a high profile game.

Punish the player severely...but leave the law out of the game

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I think the issue of 'did he know it was illegal' comes into play here.

You know you're going to get arrested if you do it on the street.
Did he actually think what he was doing was against the law?
Ignorance of the law does not make you innocent. If he wants to act like an idiot on the ice he should be prepared for the consequences.

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Who cares? Sucks to be him and thank got he is NOT a Hab....

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At least he still has plans to become a big rap superstar in Quebec.

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Ignorance of the law does not make you innocent. If he wants to act like an idiot on the ice he should be prepared for the consequences.
like Chezz said, pitchers sometimes throw beanballs(assault) and hockey players have been swinging at unwilling combatants for decades. They can all be considered criminal acts but no hockey/baseball player believes they'll go to jail for throwing punches at another athlete.

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If it cuts down on fights where CLEARLY a guy doesn't want to engage while the other keeps punching.....I really don't see what the problem is....

You want to fight, take somebody who wants to fight as well....don't be a ***** and attack people weaker than you....
Agree. BUT don't be a p***y and rest on your post when you know the other goalie is clearly coming towards you to fight. Be a man and get into it. Grab his shirt..Bear Hug the guy..Do something.


I think this is completely stupid. The guy could do a maximum of 6months in Jail...for this?..Quite unbelievable if you ask me. All this because Nadeau didn't want to remove his helmet and get into a stance??..

I think there's a double standard here that's quite freaking stupid.

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Agree. BUT don't be a p***y and rest on your post when you know the other goalie is clearly coming towards you to fight. Be a man and get into it. Grab his shirt..Bear Hug the guy..Do something.


I think this is completely stupid. The guy could do a maximum of 6months in Jail...for this?..Quite unbelievable if you ask me. All this because Nadeau didn't want to remove his helmet and get into a stance??..

I think there's a double standard here that's quite freaking stupid.
There are two distinct worlds at play here...Society and Sport.

Do Roy's actions make him a menace to hockey?...yes

Do Roy's actions make him a menace to society? Hardly.

Keep the law out of the game.

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There are two distinct worlds at play here...Society and Sport.

Do Roy's actions make him a menace to hockey?...yes

Do Roy's actions make him a menace to society? Hardly.

Keep the law out of the game.
Smartest post/point I've read on HF in a long while.

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There are two distinct worlds at play here...Society and Sport.

Do Roy's actions make him a menace to hockey?...yes

Do Roy's actions make him a menace to society? Hardly.

Keep the law out of the game.
I understand what you are saying and for the most part agree. Similar to the Bertuzzi/Moore incident though, there are times when people have to be held accountable for their actions. I think this has more to do with a determined fully thought out action rather then a spur of the moment punch or check into the boards. Roy saw the guy didn't want anything to do with him but he skated over and proceeded to beat the crap out of a guy who wasn't fighting back.

Roy needs a dose of realty in whatever world he's living in.

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