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Who do you want as the 2nd line center?

View Poll Results: Who do you want to be the second line center?
Bergeron 87 82.08%
Krejci 13 12.26%
Kessel 2 1.89%
Nokelainen 0 0%
Sobotka 0 0%
Soderberg 2 1.89%
Other 2 1.89%
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07-31-2008, 05:50 AM
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Who do you want as the 2nd line center?

Results from the first set of polls.
First line:

Sturm-Savard-Ryder

Ryder won by a landslide and Sturm won by a narrow margin over Lucic.

I have seen a lot of people have different ideas about who they would like as 2nd, 3rd and 4th line centers. After this poll closes I will do a poll for 2nd line wingers.


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07-31-2008, 09:11 AM
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Krejci - he'll get good 5 on 5 time -
obviously not what the majority thinks, but I'm ok with that.
I say Bergy on the third because I know he'll still get plent of ice time on the PP and PK if everything is working out for him

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07-31-2008, 09:14 AM
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flannelman said most of what I was going to say ... and actually said it a little better than I would have.

I'd start with Krejci on the 2nd line and if he struggles early, move him down and move Bergeron up.

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07-31-2008, 09:16 AM
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How bout the guy who earns the spot?

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The problem with this question is that folks have different definitions for "second" and "third" lines.

Some people view the second line center as the center with the second most ice time.

Others view the second line center as the center with the second best set of offensive wingers.

For the purpose of this question, which is it?


If it were me, I'd give Krejci the best scoring winger available after Savard, but I'd give Bergeron much more ice time than Krejci. So who's the second line center in that scenario?

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07-31-2008, 09:23 AM
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Bergeron.Krejci had a good late season but I still think it's Bergeron's spot to lose

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07-31-2008, 09:27 AM
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flannelman said most of what I was going to say ... and actually said it a little better than I would have.

I'd start with Krejci on the 2nd line and if he struggles early, move him down and move Bergeron up.
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If it were me, I'd give Krejci the best scoring winger available after Savard, but I'd give Bergeron much more ice time than Krejci. So who's the second line center in that scenario?
Nah' you both said it better than me - nail on the head.

I think that we (not saying all) tend to get wrapped up in lines being : Superstar Scoring Line - Secondary Scoring Line - Energy/Checking Line

But we have a lack of upperechelon forward talent - but we're rolling 3 scoring lines, no matter how the lines are sliced & diced ... at least that's how I see the cookie crumbling (Bruce Almighty)

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If it were me, I'd give Krejci the best scoring winger available after Savard, but I'd give Bergeron much more ice time than Krejci. So who's the second line center in that scenario?
bp, would you keep the scoring winger(s) on the bench with Krejci when Bergeron was getting the ice time, or would you mix & match the lines and keep the scorers out there regardless if it was with Bergeron or Krejci?

And when you refer to more ice time, are you thinking purely 5on5 ice time, or are you factoring in PP & PK time as well? If special-teams ice time is included, I'd definitely give Bergeron more ice time (particularly on the PK). But 5on5? I think that I'd split the time pretty evenly.

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bp, would you keep the scoring winger(s) on the bench with Krejci when Bergeron was getting the ice time, or would you mix & match the lines and keep the scorers out there regardless if it was with Bergeron or Krejci?

And when you refer to more ice time, are you thinking purely 5on5 ice time, or are you factoring in PP & PK time as well? If special-teams ice time is included, I'd definitely give Bergeron more ice time (particularly on the PK). But 5on5? I think that I'd split the time pretty evenly.
My opinion on our center situation has always been this:

This team's current strength, clearly in my mind, is depth up the middle. Knowing that I would not put Bergeron at wing, as some suggest, but instead would make him my "third" line center between Kobasew and a guy like Axe, if he returns. I would play that line against the opponent's top line whenever possible.

I would give Bergy plenty of PP and PK time, or as much as he could handle.

I would give Krejci a quality offensive winger, maybe two, as I see his skillset needing a finisher more than Bergy's. So maybe it's Kessel, maybe it's Ryder, maybe it's Sturm, Lucic, whomever is left after Savard claims his winger.

At the end of the day I think we'd be rolling three lines capable of scoring, Bergy would get the most ice time out of your forwards (IMO he's the best all-around player on this team), and the respective centers would be matched with complementary wingers.

This is all just my opinion of course, and I ain't the coach.

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there shouldn't even be a contest for this because it goes without saying....Bergy all the way

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Krejci all the way.

I just don't think Bergeron is going to be ready 100% by the time October rolls around. I mean, by then, he will not have played an NHL game in almost ONE FULL YEAR. After a rather serious injury, that is.

He's going to have to shed the rust and work out the kinks for awhile, methinks. Tim Connolly comes to mind.

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Krejci all the way.

I just don't think Bergeron is going to be ready 100% by the time October rolls around. I mean, by then, he will not have played an NHL game in almost ONE FULL YEAR. After a rather serious injury, that is.

He's going to have to shed the rust and work out the kinks for awhile, methinks. Tim Connolly comes to mind.
Rust I expect - I just hope he isn't a walking epidemic, ya know?

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It's Bergerons spot. If he does not perform then move him down and Krejci up

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our team reminds me of buffalo in 06-07.

we are deep finally with three lines.

D is solid once again. and goaltending should be good. rember miller/biron
we have thomas/fernandez. there is no reason we cant make a dent big time this season. is confrence finals out of the question????

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Rust I expect - I just hope he isn't a walking epidemic, ya know?
I certainly hope not either.

Trust me; I want Bergeron to step right in and contribute. I want him to be an impact player. But his injury took a great toll on him, both physically and mentally. It might take awhile. And while I hope he doesn't end up like Tim Connolly, I can't help but make the comparison.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. That's what we gotta start doing. I think a lot of people are expecting him to step in and do too much immediately.

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I certainly hope not either.

Trust me; I want Bergeron to step right in and contribute. I want him to be an impact player. But his injury took a great toll on him, both physically and mentally. It might take awhile. And while I hope he doesn't end up like Tim Connolly, I can't help but make the comparison.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. That's what we gotta start doing. I think a lot of people are expecting him to step in and do too much immediately.
hear where you are coming from and agree -

I can't help myself, though, watching Bergeron is like the anticipation the wee-little ones have for Christmas -

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Krejci all the way.

I just don't think Bergeron is going to be ready 100% by the time October rolls around. I mean, by then, he will not have played an NHL game in almost ONE FULL YEAR. After a rather serious injury, that is.

He's going to have to shed the rust and work out the kinks for awhile, methinks. Tim Connolly comes to mind.
He didn't show any rust in the tournament he played last weekend in Magog

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He didn't show any rust in the tournament he played last weekend in Magog
Good. Glad to hear that.

But then again, look at the Magog Tournament roster. Not exactly blossoming the toughest competition. About half of 'em are AHLers.

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Definition of 2nd line C:

The guy who doesn't get stuck with Axe on his wing.

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Other - Marc Savard

To me, your first line center has to be the best all around forward on your team. Savard may have made some great strides in his defensive play last season, but Bergeron is still our best.

Plus, playing Bergeron's line against the opposing team's best defensive guys gives Savard more room to be creative and put up more points. And if teams start focusing on Savard, Bergeron's line can go out there and score. Plus, there's always Krejci's line.


We're going to have a very dynamic attack this season.

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Krejci because I want to see Bergeron on the second line LW.

Imagine the speed of a Sturm, Krejci, Kessel line?

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Imagine the speed of a Sturm, Krejci, Kessel line?
I think it would look something like this:

http://bruins.nhl.tv/team/launch.htm...6&event=BOS724

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I want to clarify a couple of things.

The first polls I did was who was going to be Marc Savard's wingers, these polls are just to get a sense of what the fans who post on HF boards would like to see as the lines of the Bruins. We know Savard is going to play center, I have seen a lot of people post about making Bergeron into a wing.
The "second line" I am referring to in this post is not automatically a scoring or shutdown line, it will be whatever kind of line the fans on this board make it.
Savrd's line is the first line because it is the first line we have filled out and that is how I intend to do the second, third and fourth.
So it is entirely up to you what and who are on the lines.
I hope that explains the purpose of the polls and why it is called the first or second line.

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Good. Glad to hear that.

But then again, look at the Magog Tournament roster. Not exactly blossoming the toughest competition. About half of 'em are AHLers.


Might not be the toughest competition, but it was good enough to tell him that he was feeling good on his skates.
That is exactly what he told the French journalist afterward....no backlash, no bad aftermaths.
He was plainly feeling good and was looking forward to training for the next 6 weeks prior to the training camp.

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