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08-06-2008, 08:50 PM
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Jarkko Immonen

What are the chances to see him back in the NHL?

When could it be and what impact could he have?

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08-06-2008, 09:17 PM
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kinda shocked that some team did not sign him, he had good ahl stats and did well when he was in the NHL. i still rather have him than betts on the 4th line. immonen was still good defensivly while adding more offense. i doubt his skating was an issue.

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kinda shocked that some team did not sign him, he had good ahl stats and did well when he was in the NHL. i still rather have him than betts on the 4th line. immonen was still good defensivly while adding more offense. i doubt his skating was an issue.
His skating most definitely was an issue. He wasn't a terrible skater, but he wasn't fast enough for what the Rangers wanted in a top 6 forward, maybe even for a 3rd line center. And there's no way he was going to stick around for 4th line duty when he could go back to Finland and probably get paid well and play 1st line minutes

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If he comes back to the NHL, it won't be with the Rangers. If he wants to be a little fish in a very big pond, then he'll take the pay cut and come back--although I doubt he'd ever be more than a 3rd liner over here. It's also possible that he would rather be much more prominent player, in which case, he stays where he is.

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Too slow. He'll have a nice career in Europe.

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I doubt we see Jarkko come back. He's one of those players who is better in Europe than in the NHL, sort of like Ville Peltonen (or, dare I say it, Saku Koivu, who's a superstar on the big ice). He might make a team that is really looking for playmaking talent, but I doubt he'd play a major role for a contender at this point anymore. Pity, because I really liked him.

About his pay: in absolute terms, I doubt he's making all that much more in Finland than he'd make in the NHL. Finland is a pretty small country, afterall...

This thread reminds me: what happened to Padawan? He's never around anymore, and not just on the Rangers board.

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08-06-2008, 10:45 PM
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I doubt we see Jarkko come back. He's one of those players who is better in Europe than in the NHL, sort of like Ville Peltonen (or, dare I say it, Saku Koivu, who's a superstar on the big ice). He might make a team that is really looking for playmaking talent, but I doubt he'd play a major role for a contender at this point anymore. Pity, because I really liked him.

About his pay: in absolute terms, I doubt he's making all that much more in Finland than he'd make in the NHL. Finland is a pretty small country, afterall...

This thread reminds me: what happened to Padawan? He's never around anymore, and not just on the Rangers board.
He's much more likely to pick up some money doing endorsements (I'll always have fond memories of Adam Graves hawking Bay Ridge Honda/Volvo) and will be able to speak (and hear) Finnish every day--not to mention be allowed to increase the temp enough to make it a real Finnish Sauna. And that may be enough.

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08-08-2008, 12:18 AM
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He's much more likely to pick up some money doing endorsements (I'll always have fond memories of Adam Graves hawking Bay Ridge Honda/Volvo) and will be able to speak (and hear) Finnish every day--not to mention be allowed to increase the temp enough to make it a real Finnish Sauna. And that may be enough.
You just hit the nail on the head there! You have no idea how annoyed I am with the stupid laws in the US that don't allow you to heat a sauna up properly. I think they don't allow you to put it over 65șC. A sauna doesn't count unless it's over 80șC at minimum!

Now THAT'S worth emigrating for.

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Yeap, no chance for him, ya gotta be a speed demon to make it in this league apparently.


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When could it be and what impact could he have?
none. impact doesn't describe Jarkko Immonen in the slightest. he can keep up with the play, but not contribute to it.

if he would have played a longer tenure with the Rangers, fans would have grown tired of him. guarantee it.

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His skating most definitely was an issue. He wasn't a terrible skater, but he wasn't fast enough for what the Rangers wanted in a top 6 forward, maybe even for a 3rd line center. And there's no way he was going to stick around for 4th line duty when he could go back to Finland and probably get paid well and play 1st line minutes
plus the Rangers already have a much better 4th line center.

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Immonen was a dud. Had some pretty good playmaking ability, but it often looked like he was skating in sand out there.

That Leetch trade may have changed the face of the franchise and began a movement in the right direction, but the two prospects we got from Toronto (Immonen and Kondratiev) turned out to be trash. The two draft picks we received, which I believe turned into Korpikoski and Sauer, may turn out OK but that remains to be seen. Still think we couldve gotten a better haul for Leetch.

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i was there when he scored his first career goal, and i thought we had some great young talent there

guess it just wouldnt work out here

he'll probobly play in europe his whole career

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You just hit the nail on the head there! You have no idea how annoyed I am with the stupid laws in the US that don't allow you to heat a sauna up properly. I think they don't allow you to put it over 65șC. A sauna doesn't count unless it's over 80șC at minimum!

Now THAT'S worth emigrating for.
I gave up on public saunas in this country--it's just not worth it at 140F. My dream is to build a wood sauna upstate somewhere, right next to a lake (OK, I'd settle for a nice clean pond).

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What are the chances to see him back in the NHL?

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0 and 0

He doesn't have the food speed. I wished and I hoped for this guy, but I don't think it's ever going to happen in the NHL for him.

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He's gone
Thank god we didn't trade to make room for him!

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I gave up on public saunas in this country--it's just not worth it at 140F. My dream is to build a wood sauna upstate somewhere, right next to a lake (OK, I'd settle for a nice clean pond).
It's not just the public saunas. A friend of mine's dad, who is German, wanted to install one in his house. The Swedish guy who was selling them told him that he wasn't allowed to let it go over 65șC or something like that, but that he could show him how to "bypass" the limiter. My friend's dad decided he didn't want to buy something that he would have to break in order for it to work properly.

Of course, if you build your own, perhaps that wouldn't be an issue. If you ever do, can I come and give it a try, too..?

I'll be in Finland next week for just a few days. We'll see how many saunas I can take in that period.

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It's not just the public saunas. A friend of mine's dad, who is German, wanted to install one in his house. The Swedish guy who was selling them told him that he wasn't allowed to let it go over 65șC or something like that, but that he could show him how to "bypass" the limiter. My friend's dad decided he didn't want to buy something that he would have to break in order for it to work properly.

Of course, if you build your own, perhaps that wouldn't be an issue. If you ever do, can I come and give it a try, too..?

I'll be in Finland next week for just a few days. We'll see how many saunas I can take in that period.
That's why I want a wood sauna--how can you "regulate" the temp then, have the wood police show up when you throw an extra log on the fire?

One thing I do wonder about, is whether 120 voltage can handle the juice needed to get the temp over 65C. I know in Finland electric saunas can go up to (and a little over) 80C, maybe the 220 voltage is the reason?

Either way, have fun. Lucky it's not snowing yet (my Finnish friends made me roll in the snow one winter).

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That's why I want a wood sauna--how can you "regulate" the temp then, have the wood police show up when you throw an extra log on the fire?

One thing I do wonder about, is whether 120 voltage can handle the juice needed to get the temp over 65C. I know in Finland electric saunas can go up to (and a little over) 80C, maybe the 220 voltage is the reason?

Either way, have fun. Lucky it's not snowing yet (my Finnish friends made me roll in the snow one winter).
That's an interesting question. I had never actually thought of that, I honestly have no idea.

It's not snowing, but apparently it's been the coldest summer in years. The worst I've done is gone from a 90șC sauna to an 11șC swim in the sea. I might equal that this year...

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Ah summertime in Finland, you never know what the weather will be like. Hopefully it will clear up just for you. Have a great time (and don't worry, it's August, the lake will probably be at least 14-15C).

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Thanks! Unfortunately, our summer house is on an island, so I'll be swimming in the Baltic!

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