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02-04-2014, 05:56 AM
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Top-10 right wingers in the 1980's

My list.

1. Sergei Makarov
2. Mike Bossy
3. Andrei Khomutov
4. Sergei Svetlov
5. Jari Kurri
6. Nikolai Drozdetsky
7. Håkan Loob
8. Mike Gartner
9. Viktor Shalimov
10. Glenn Anderson

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1. Sergei Makarov
2. Mike Bossy

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Well, every time I have watched Makarov and Bossy play against each other Makarov has outplayed him. It happened in 1979 Challenge Cup, in 1981 Canada Cup and in 1984 Canada Cup.

Makarov was also the best scorer of the Soviet league.

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I am not going to touch the soviet players who played outside of the NHL.

Also, is the 80's decade counted from 79-80/88-89 season or 80-81/89-90?

I am counting it as 79-80/88-89.

I don't see how it could be anyone else than Bossy in #1 place. The guy was 1st team all-star for 5 times and from 80-81 season onwards he has 6 consecutive all-star selections. Only once did he lose the 1st nod and that was peak Kurri playing along with peak Gretzky.

Kurri comes 2nd to me. Talking about PPG, Kurri and Bossy are in a class of their own. Kurri has 1.49 PPG in 530 games played. That is good for 2nd behind only Bossy who has 1.52 PPG in 599 games played.
Third one is Dave Taylor with 1.16.

#1 Mike Bossy
#2 Jari Kurri

I'll have to get back to work now, I'll continue to think about this bit later.

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Well, every time I have watched Makarov and Bossy play against each other Makarov has outplayed him. It happened in 1979 Challenge Cup, in 1981 Canada Cup and in 1984 Canada Cup.

Makarov was also the best scorer of the Soviet league.
I'm not particularly versed in Soviet players, but I think there's a case for Makarov based on what I've seen and heard. I'm not sure if I buy there's two more guys better than Kurri though.

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Makarov in front of Bossy is perfectly reasonable. Makarov is perhaps the best russian player ever.

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Makarov in front of Bossy is perfectly reasonable. Makarov is perhaps the best russian player ever.
I agree, but when you compare with his other top 10 lists, it starts to become obvious there is some heavy bias. I'm surprised Gretzky topped the center list.

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Here's your problem Peter. If USSR/Russian players are so dominant why have they not dominated the NHL since they started playing in North America? Sure there have been some great players (Fedorov, Bure, Datsyuk, etc. .. no goalies though...) but if an objective person made these same lists for the 90s/2000s there would only be a smattering of Russians. Nowhere near the weight you have given them for the 80s (which is about 50%).

Now you could say that the Soviet system is no longer in place to develop players, but that would not explain why the NHL wasn't suddenly dominated by players who grew up in the Soviet system once the wall fell. Sure they acquitted themselves very well, as we all expected they would, but definitely not dominant as a group (1 Calder and 1 Hart Trophy among them I believe, off the top of my head). And certainly not to the extent that one would expect based on your lists.

For all the Canadian bias you accuse us of you are easily as guilty, or more so, in the opposite direction.

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Okay, the rest of these were closed, so this one will be too.

In the future, if you are creating a thread with a list this controversial, especially one that shows such a strong preference for a particular team or nationality, please provide some kind of explanation for your choices. And no, "my country is better than yours" is not an explanation.

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