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Rumor: McCabe Waives NTC - Headed to Florida?

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08-14-2008, 08:08 AM
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Why would the Panthers want McCabe? It's not like they'll be competitive this year...
They want to make sure that they finish last overall Maybe Jacques Martin figures that Bouwmeester wants out that they need to replace him so since McCabe is decent offensively and the remainder of his contract is affordable to Florida and Florida has the cap space to take on McCabe then it could be possible. Another factors maybe he's good friends with Belak and he wants to go to an NHL city that he won't be under the microscope all of the time. Plus the weather doesn't hurt either. If the trade does go down it will be interesting to see what Florida gives up. It also guarantees that Bouwmeester will be gone by the trade deadline.

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08-14-2008, 08:17 AM
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HAHAhahahahahah.... They will be competitive this year,you'll see.. Stillman,Horton,Weiss,Booth,Kreps,Matthias,Repik.. and we have amazing goaltending with Dfense, and a new head coach to boot, so why wouldn't we be competitive?

So we've had 8 bad years, things are looking up and although we're stock-piled with D, I wouldn't mind Mcabe here. I think people will underestimate the Panthers this year, and I can't wait to drop some jaws when we make noise and the playoffs.
I thought you were going to try convincing us they could make the playoffs, not illustrate how far off they are.

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08-14-2008, 08:50 AM
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I highly doubt Weiss gets traded anywhere, he is DeBoer's former player in juniors. I think it's McCabe for Van Ryn/Skrats and a draft pick tops.
I agree Weiss is not going anywhere especially because of his conection to Deboer!!!

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08-14-2008, 08:59 AM
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It wouldn't shock me if it was a deal centered around McCabe++ for JayBo.

Fletcher is always looking to hit a homerun, and Florida wants to get pieces for JayBo before he jumps ship. Although everyone who isn't a Leaf fan (and half the Leaf fans) think that McCabe is garbage, this could turn Florida into a playoff team this year.
Not if Bouw is the player headed the other way!!!

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08-14-2008, 09:02 AM
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a good trade would be

Bryan Mccabe to Florida

for

Shawn Mattias, 3rd

that seems fair

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a good trade would be

Bryan Mccabe to Florida

for

Shawn Mattias, 3rd

that seems fair
Hahaha...a Leaf fan, are we?

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08-14-2008, 09:07 AM
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Bouwmeester will not go to Toronto.

If he does, then Fletcher is dumber than I thought.

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It wouldn't shock me if it was a deal centered around McCabe++ for JayBo.

Fletcher is always looking to hit a homerun, and Florida wants to get pieces for JayBo before he jumps ship. Although everyone who isn't a Leaf fan (and half the Leaf fans) think that McCabe is garbage, this could turn Florida into a playoff team this year.
There's so much wrong with this.

Florida does not improve this year or ever by replacing McCabe one for one with Bouwmeester. I'm not saying McCabe is garbage, but he certainly isn't Bouw and he doesn't make the team better. I honestly couldn't think of the '++' you have in mind that closes the gap and makes them a better team than they are with Bouw.

If Florida wants to trade Bouwmeester, they can return far more than McCabe, of all people.

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I don't think anyone insinuated such. A deal based around adding to McCabe shouldn't be out of the question though.
Yes it should.

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08-14-2008, 09:11 AM
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Speak for yourself in trying to tell others that McCabe has been a first pairing D-man on 100 point, playoff teams. McCabe is not and has never been a first pairing defenseman. Therein lies the problem, don't you think?

And my point was exactly what you made it out to be. Jaybo is a young stud on defenseman. He keeps himself out of the major categories while Bryan accumulates sexxxxxy points on a powerplay - and he does it all the better. He is a stronger defenseman IN game, as he can be relied upon to carry a defense. I know, crazy! He's only 26!

But for some to think Brian holds a trump card because he's a veteran that has played on 100 point, playoff teams capable of holding onto talent, well - you won't fool me. It's not Jaybo's fault he's stuck in an organization that is incapable of accessing and retaining its talent.

Jay will be the latest casualty of the Panther organization. The team that lands Jaybo will be landing a far superior player to Brian McCabe. A potential franchise player that is capable of changing the way an organization approaches its gameplay. If the Panthers think that trading Jaybo and landing McCabe simply lands them some assets, than fine. But to think that life after the trade will not be much worse, than all involved are in for a rude awakening.

Toronto's problems lie deeper than McCabe, no doubt. But the reluctance to take pressure of a player incapable of providing sturdy defense in the more imperative of times, well that could be a start.
Jaybo is actually 24, will turn 25 in September!

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Wow, way to contribute to thread, real good inside info there.
Don't worry pb1300 he is just sour because the Habs haven't signed Sundin yet.

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Bouwmeester will not go to Toronto.

If he does, then Fletcher is dumber than I thought.
Well there's a maverick opinion !!!!

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08-14-2008, 09:27 AM
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a good trade would be

Bryan Mccabe to Florida

for

Shawn Mattias, 3rd

that seems fair
Almost as fair as Matthias for Kaberle!!!

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08-14-2008, 09:31 AM
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Don't worry pb1300 he is just sour because the Habs haven't signed Sundin yet.
I know, thats what children do, they insult, rather than debate with logic. Its a shame that this board is affected by these posters.

As far as the trade rumor is concerned, I would think Toronto would take Skrastins before Van Ryn, because even though Skrastins' contract is slightly more in terms of money, its less in terms of years.

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08-14-2008, 09:35 AM
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If they take back 35 year old Skrastins instead of Van Ryn expect Weiss coming back as well. I think that Toronto should still look at Philly seeing as they are on Mccabe's list and are very forward heavy. If Philly moves a large contract say Hatcher to Toronto , who is a UFA next year, then I could see Toronto landing Hartnell. I would love for Flecther to see what it would take to land Gagne over here.

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If they take back 35 year old Skrastins instead of Van Ryn expect Weiss coming back as well. I think that Toronto should still look at Philly seeing as they are on Mccabe's list and are very forward heavy. If Philly moves a large contract say Hatcher to Toronto , who is a UFA next year, then I could see Toronto landing Hartnell. I would love for Flecther to see what it would take to land Gagne over here.
if it's Philly I wouldn't be surprised to see a

Steen McCabe
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Carter Hatcher pick ...

swap (Hatcher is then UFA or sent down to the minors or w/e)

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Some amazing overrating of McCabe's value in this thread, in my opinion...

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Some amazing overrating of McCabe's value in this thread, in my opinion...
You could say the complete opposite as well. He was injured last year for a good period (edit: broken hand) and who knows if it was fully healed when he actually did come back, which could be why his goal total was less. He plays 28 minutes a night, can play PP and PK, other then last year has put up a lot of points as a defenseman. His contract cap hit is good by todays standards and his actual pay is even better. His took a lot of flak last year for a bad team in toronto and poor coaching imho.


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08-14-2008, 10:00 AM
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If they take back 35 year old Skrastins instead of Van Ryn expect Weiss coming back as well. I think that Toronto should still look at Philly seeing as they are on Mccabe's list and are very forward heavy. If Philly moves a large contract say Hatcher to Toronto , who is a UFA next year, then I could see Toronto landing Hartnell. I would love for Flecther to see what it would take to land Gagne over here.
Weiss isn't going anywhere! He played well under Deboer in the minors and JM will not trade Weiss now that Deboer is HC.

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if it's Philly I wouldn't be surprised to see a

Steen McCabe
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Carter Hatcher pick ...

swap (Hatcher is then UFA or sent down to the minors or w/e)
That's extremely wishful thinking. The Leafs wouldn't be able to get Carter for McCabe and Steen. McCabe doesn't have as much value as you think. Also, Philly and Toronto aren't very good trade partners due to Philly's cap situation and Philly not likely to deal one of its young, core players.

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If this is true, it only says to me that J-BO is being moved for a bunch of forwards and that they are waiting on McCabe's situation before they pull the trigger on a deal already in place.

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Please don't flame, but i'm just wondering how florida fans feel about this deal:

Tor:
McCabe
Tlusty
Steen
Ponikarovsky

Fla:
Bouwmeester
Booth
salary dump(Van Ryn or Skrastins)

Ponikarovsky and steen are already capable 2nd line players capable of putting up 15-20 goals each, Tlusty would make a nice 3rd line centre this year, being able to move up in the depth charts if there is injury, and has top line potential. McCabe replaces Bouwmeester as your #1 defenceman.

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Jay-Bo is not coming to Toronto, and if McCabe does get traded to Florida it will be for Van Ryn.

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I thought you were going to try convincing us they could make the playoffs, not illustrate how far off they are.
I don't really care what you guys think, I'm just telling you they WILL make the playoffs and they are going to surprise a lot of people.

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That's extremely wishful thinking. The Leafs wouldn't be able to get Carter for McCabe and Steen. McCabe doesn't have as much value as you think. Also, Philly and Toronto aren't very good trade partners due to Philly's cap situation and Philly not likely to deal one of its young, core players.
He may not but you saying so doesn't make it true. What are you basing it on?

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