I'm pretty sure he was born in Seattle, however, I'm not certain if he ever moved to Canada in his youth and got dual citizenship. Do you have a link to prove he's Canadian? I'd like a little history lesson if you do...
I'm pretty sure he was born in Seattle, however, I'm not certain if he ever moved to Canada in his youth and got dual citizenship. Do you have a link to prove he's Canadian? I'd like a little history lesson if you do...
I thought it was the other way around, born in Alberta and moved to Seattle. Not sure if he considers himself american, canadian or both.
CFL teams have to start a minimum number of Canadians. So they usually fall under one of several categories:
*The second option running back/fullback (Few teams employ a legit, power fullback anymore. Guys like Blake Marshall and Sean Millington are almost as rare as a Canadian-born quarterback. [More on that below]). Now it's mostly a No. 2 back, someone like a Lyle Green in B.C.
*At least one receiver, usually at the slotback position. A lot of Canadians have thrived at slotback: Elgaard, Sapunjis, more recently Cahoon and Clermont. You don't see a lot of Canadian speedsters at wide-out or slotback. They're usually tough, grinding receivers who thrive at making the catch over the middle (even though they know they'll get hit), or they're guys who can find a way to get open on a 15-20 yard pass. (Dave Sapunjis was a master at this; the Stamps even had a play called "Sponge Get Open.") Pat Woodcock had great speed early in his career, but couldn't always make the plays.
*They'll usually have three offensive lineman. Not uncommon to see a team use five Canadian-born offensive lineman, although it's becoming increasingly rare.
*One or two defensive lineman. Brent Johnson's the best, but there are a few good Canadian-born defensive linemen.
*One linebacker. Larry Wruck was a rock for Edmonton for years in the middle. Mike O'Shea has carved himself a nice CFL HOF career.
*One or two defensive backs. Safety is usually a Canadian position, but you sometimes see a Canadian at defensive halfback or cornerback.
*Kicker/punter. Most teams have one player to do the kicking duties. And usually it's a Canadian.
Quarterback is not counted against the Canadian quote. The last Canadian-born and trained quarterback to enjoy real success, in any league, was Russ Jackson, a star for so long in Ottawa. Teams don't carry Canadian QBs because they don't have to. Why spend time developing a Canadian QB when there are some American QBs who maybe don't fit into the NFL style, but their mobility makes them well-suited for the Canadian game, and could be a good CFL pivot with patience and time to adjust to the style up here. (The last true patient pocket passer to thrive in the CFL was Kent Austin. he retired more than a decade ago.
QB - Teal Orban (University of Regina)
RB - Jesse Lumsden (HAM)
FB - Chris Szarka (SSK)
WR - Nate Burleson (SEA)
WR - Samuel Giguere (IND)
SB - Ben Cahoon (MTL)
SB - Jason Clermont (BC)
OT - Nick Kazcur (NE)
OT - Sam Federkeil (IND)
G - Jude St. John (TOR)
G - Rob Lazeo (CGY)
C - Bret Romberg (STL)
DE - Israel Idonije (CHI)
DE - Brent Johnson (BC)
DT - Corey Mace (BUF)
DT - Rob Meier (JAC)/Doug Brown(WPG)
OLB - Scott Coe (EDM)
OLB - Kevin Eiben (TOR)
MLB - Mike O'Shea (TOR)
HB - Scott Gordon (SSK)
HB - Kelly Malveaux (WPG)
CB - Jason David (NO)
CB - Davis Sanchez (MTL)
S - O.J. Atogwe (STL)
K - Shaun Suisham (WAS)
P - Jon Ryan (SEA)
I used a real NFL influence in picking this but oh well. Lots fo CFLers that are probably better right now than some guys like Mace/Meier/Giguere but this is fine. And there are almost no Qb's outside of CIS because of CFL's dumb rules.
You mean like what Brett Hull did when he went and played for the US?
Sure, I wasn't saying Canada used American players. Just an example to make the squad better. Chris Kaman on German team. Brazilian volleyball team playing for Georgia etc....
QB - Teal Orban (University of Regina)
RB - Jesse Lumsden (HAM)
FB - Chris Szarka (SSK)
WR - Nate Burleson (SEA)
WR - Samuel Giguere (IND)
SB - Ben Cahoon (MTL)
SB - Jason Clermont (BC)
OT - Nick Kazcur (NE)
OT - Sam Federkeil (IND)
G - Jude St. John (TOR)
G - Rob Lazeo (CGY)
C - Bret Romberg (STL)
DE - Israel Idonije (CHI)
DE - Brent Johnson (BC)
DT - Corey Mace (BUF)
DT - Rob Meier (JAC)/Doug Brown(WPG)
OLB - Scott Coe (EDM)
OLB - Kevin Eiben (TOR)
MLB - Mike O'Shea (TOR)
HB - Scott Gordon (SSK)
HB - Kelly Malveaux (WPG)
CB - Jason David (NO)
CB - Davis Sanchez (MTL)
S - O.J. Atogwe (STL)
K - Shaun Suisham (WAS)
P - Jon Ryan (SEA)
I used a real NFL influence in picking this but oh well. Lots fo CFLers that are probably better right now than some guys like Mace/Meier/Giguere but this is fine. And there are almost no Qb's outside of CIS because of CFL's dumb rules.
If you squint your eyes and tilt your head just the right way you'll actually see a little bit of talent on that roster. It really is time for there to at least be another Canadian QB somewhere in the CFL. Quick question for you, what number receiver would Western grad Andy Fantuz be? Would you put him at #3 or are there others better then him?
If you squint your eyes and tilt your head just the right way you'll actually see a little bit of talent on that roster. It really is time for there to at least be another Canadian QB somewhere in the CFL. Quick question for you, what number receiver would Western grad Andy Fantuz be? Would you put him at #3 or are there others better then him?
A good first step in getting more canadian QB's would be simply getting rid of the special exemption for QB's. Add 3 import spots to the roster, and get rid of the QB exception. Then if a team were to pick up a canadian QB as a 3rd stringer, they could keep an extra import somewhere else on the roster. At least then he gets on the roster and gets a chance.
Fantuz and Hamilton SB Chris Bauman are the two best young canadian receivers in the league is quite a while. Fantuz would definatly be right there as well, maybe not #3 but in the top 5 for sure. Off the top of my head only Paris Jackson, Bauman and him come to mind for the spot. He still drops a few too many balls for my taste, but is quickly getting better. I think hes been hurt most of this year though, much like the rest of the roughriders.
Sure, I wasn't saying Canada used American players. Just an example to make the squad better. Chris Kaman on German team. Brazilian volleyball team playing for Georgia etc....
Sorry if that came off as attacking, just was using an example of what I thought you meant.
