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08-20-2008, 09:07 AM
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New York Islanders Top 25 Prospects - 8/20/08

Islanders Prospect List

1. Kyle Okposo (F) - Played for New York Islanders (NHL) - Selected 7th Overall, 2006 Draft
2. Josh Bailey (F) - Played for Windsor Spitfires (OHL) - Selected 9th Overall, 2008 Draft
3. Kirill Petrov (F) - Played for Kazan Ak-Bars (RSL) - Selected 73rd Overall, 2008 Draft
4. Robin Figren (F) - Played for Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL) - Selected 70th Overall, 2006 Draft
5. Corey Trivino (F) - Played for Stouffville Spirit (OPJHL) - Selected 36th Overall, 2008 Draft
6. Aaron Ness (D) - Played for Roseau High School (HS) - Selected 40th overall, 2008 Draft
7. Frans Nielsen (F) - Played for Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) - Selected 87th Overall, 2002 Draft
8. Rhett Rakhshani (F) - Played for University of Denver (WCHA) - Selected 100th Overall, 2006 Draft
9. Jesse Joensuu (F) - Played for Assat Pori (FNL) - Selected 60th Overall, 2006 Draft
10. Jack Hillen (D) - Played for Colorado College (WCHA) - Undrafted, Free Agent Signing
11. Mark Katic (D) - Played for Sarnia Sting (OHL) - Selected 62nd Overall, 2007 Draft
12. Max Gratchev (F) - Played for Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL) - Selected 106th Overall, 2007 Draft
13. Jason Gregoire (F) - Played for Lincoln Stars (USHL) - Selected 76th Overall, 2007 Draft
14. David Toews (F) - Played for Shattuck St. Mary's (HS) - Selected 66th Overall, 2008 Draft
15. Jyri Niemi (D) - Played for Saskatoon Blades (WHL) - Selected 72nd Overall, 2008 Draft
16. Blake Kessel (D) - Played for Waterloo Black Hawks (USHL) - Selected 166th Overall, 2007 Draft
17. Travis Hamonic (D) - Played for Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL) - Selected 53rd Overall, 2008 Draft
18. Jeremy Colliton (F) - Played for Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) - Selected 58th Overall, 2003 Draft
19. Dustin Kohn (D) - Played for Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) - Selected 46th Overall, 2005 Draft
20. Ben Walter (F) - Played for Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) - Selected 160th Overall, 2004 Drafted by the Bruins
21. Trevor Smith (F) - Played for Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) - Undrafted, Free Agent Signing
22. Kevin Poulin (G) - Played for Victoriaville Tigres (QMJHL) - Selected 126th Overall, 2008 Draft
23. David Ullstrom (F) - Played for HV71 Jonkoping (SEL) - Selected 102nd Overall, 2008 Draft
24. Tomas Marcinko (F) - Played for Barrie Colts (OHL) - Selected 115th Overall, 2006 Draft
25. Stefan Ridderwall (G) - Played for Djurgardens IF (SEL) - Selected 173rd Overall, 2006 Draft

Honorable Mentions

Doug Rogers (F) - Played for Harvard University (ECAC) - Selected 119th Overall, 2006 Draft
Shea Guthrie (F) - Played for Clarkson University (ECAC) - Selected 76th Overall, 2005 Draft
Justin DiBenedetto (F) - Played for Sarnia Sting (OHL) - Selected 175th Overall, 2008 Draft
Matt Donovan (D) - Played for Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) - Selected 96th Overall, 2008 Draft
Matt Martin (F) - Played for Sarnia Sting - Selected 148th Overall, 2008 Draft

Prospect (for the purposes of this poll): (1) Must be under 25 years old, (2) Has played 50 career NHL games or less, (3) Has played no more than 41 games in one single NHL season

2007-2008 Graduates: Sean Bergenheim (F), Blake Comeau (F), Jeff Tambellini (F)
2006-2007 Graduates: Bruno Gervais (D)
2005-2006 Graduates: Chris Campoli (D), Robert Nilsson (F)

Previous Prospect Polls

2007 Prospect Rankings - Prospects are ranked 1-25
2006 Prospect Rankings - Prospects are ranked 1-20 (run by sketchykg)
2005 Prospect Rankings - Prospects are ranked 1-19 (run by former moderator NYIsles1)

THIS IS THE LAST POLL. YOU DO NOT NEED TO ADD ANYONE!

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Analysis

Positions

Forward - 16 (Okposo (1), Bailey (2), Petrov (3), Figren (4), Trivino (5), Nielsen (7), Rakhshani (8), Joensuu (9), Gratchev (12), Gregoire (13), Toews (14), Colliton (18), Walter (20), Smith (21), Ullstrom (23), Marcinko (24))
Defense - 7 (Ness (6), Hillen (10), Katic (11), Niemi (15), Kessel (16), Hamonic (17), Kohn (19))
Goalie - 2 (Poulin (22), Ridderwall (25))

Countries

Canada - 11 (Bailey (2), Trivino (5), Katic (11), Gregoire (13), Toews (14), Hamonic (17), Colliton (18), Kohn (19), Walter (20), Smith (21), Poulin (22))
USA - 5 (Okposo (1), Ness (6), Rakhshani (8), Hillen (10), Kessel (16))
Sweden - 3 (Figren (4), Ullstrom (23), Ridderwall (25))
Russia - 2 (Petrov (3), Gratchev (12))
Finland - 2 (Joensuu (9), Niemi (15))
Denmark - 1 (Nielsen (7))
Slovakia - 1 (Marcinko (24))

Draft Year

Undrafted - 2 (Hillen (10), Smith (21))
2002 - 1 (Nielsen (7))
2003 - 1 (Colliton (18))
2004 - 1 (Walter (20))
2005 - 1 (Kohn (19))
2006 - 6 (Okposo (1), Figren (4), Rakhshani (8), Joensuu (9), Marcinko (24), Ridderwall (25))
2007 - 4 (Katic (11), Gratchev (12), Gregoire (13), Kessel (16))
2008 - 9 (Bailey (2), Petrov (3), Trivino (5), Ness (6), Toews (14), Niemi (15), Hamonic (17), Poulin (22), Ullstrom (23))

Draft Rankings

Moved Up

Robin Figren +12 (16 --> 4)
Jason Gregoire +4 (17 --> 13)
Blake Kessel +4 (20 --> 16)
Jesse Joensuu +3 (12 --> 9)

Stayed The Same

Kyle Okposo - 1
Rhett Rakhshani - 8
Trevor Smith - 21

Dropped

Dustin Kohn -12 (7 --> 19)
Jeremy Colliton -8 (10 --> 18)
Stefan Ridderwall -7 (18 --> 25)
Tomas Marcinko -5 (19 --> 24)
Frans Nielsen -2 (5 --> 7)
Mark Katic -2 (9 --> 11)
Max Gratchev -1 (11 --> 12)


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This is finally over?

THANK THE LORD!

After #7, I started to get really depressed.

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This ran much smoother than last year, IMO.

Thank you everyone for voting!

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I'm surprised Rahkshani didn't move down. From what i heard, he had a pretty disappointing year at Denver and did not progress much

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I am not an Isles fan - but I really like this top 4. Not a group who get a lot of fanfare (especially Figren), but this is a four who really have a good shot to all be 60+pt a year players.

Best 4 that no one really knows? Could be. Even Bailey is sort of unheralded.

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This is finally over?

THANK THE LORD!

After #7, I started to get really depressed.
haha same here!

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I'm surprised Rahkshani didn't move down. From what i heard, he had a pretty disappointing year at Denver and did not progress much
In my book, he dropped quite a bit!

I am expecting no less than 8 other prospects of ours to have a better shot at NHLdom than Rhett.

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I am not an Isles fan - but I really like this top 4. Not a group who get a lot of fanfare (especially Figren), but this is a four who really have a good shot to all be 60+pt a year players.

Best 4 that no one really knows? Could be. Even Bailey is sort of unheralded.
You could say 5.... By this time next summer, I suspect that Trivino will be a lot higher on a lot of folk's radars. Could he even play for Canada at the WJC this winter?

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i just realized nobody ever mentioned hennigar

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i just realized nobody ever mentioned hennigar
Does he even qualify?

I believe he's already 25, going on 26?

Not sure and too lazy to look up the age restrictions.

In any case, surely a fascinating side-note, cause he's definitely scheduled for BPort and I believe he had like 4 assists in the games at the prospect camp. Not big, but surely ready to be a pro after a complete junior AND college career.

Don't forget that Steve Rucchin came in relatively completely unknown from the Canadian college system and word on him was similar.... sound game, good passing skills, not the best skater.

Anyhow, Henningar and Smith are the boys I've currently got on the "have no big expectations, but think they could really surprise" clock.:-)

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I'm surprised Rahkshani didn't move down. From what i heard, he had a pretty disappointing year at Denver and did not progress much
What? islander fans heard he played decent in the wjc's and so many were marking him down as a top flight forward on the islanders squad already.

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Good list. I believe that Gratchev is too high. I'd have him no higher than 18. Surprised that Weslosky didn't even make honorable mention.

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i think hamonic should be higher on the list....but the best part is seeing how guthrie and rogers who were both on the list last year are now just honorable mentions, its just a testament to the new depth we have

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Good to see that my vote from the middle of the Caribbean, got Ridderwall on the list!

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The depth of this system is growing at a rapid rate, we just need to be patient.

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Numbers 18 and 20 all have shots at cracking the lineup. Thats not to bad. I would even argue theres a few HM's that could have shots at playing in the NHL at some capacity. The quality of the depth is much improved, only increases the odds of finding a succesful player.

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Yep, it's kind of funny.

Rogers may have a real good shot at some point. I mean heck, the guy just went 13-19-32 in 34 games for Harvard - as a sophomore. It ain't shabby. Do we think differently if he goes 20-25-45 next season, one where he's already pegged as a first liner? Hasn't he also attended USA hockey evaluation camps?

Dibenedetto has proven that he can play top-flight OHL hockey with a star - not everyone can complement good players. Dunno where he's gonna be this upcoming season, but similar CHL numbers WITHOUT Stamkos should be enough to get him a reg. shift in the AHL by 09-10.

Donovan is simply someone we know little about. This guy could go to college and become an immediate prospect in our eyes by this time next year.

And who knows, Martin may even become a real fighter/pest at some point in the next three years. It's really up to him and how much he wants it. It's not like guys like McGratton and A. Roy were raved about in the junior days.

Heck, with a career +34 at Clarkson, I don't even think Mason is out of the picture of getting at least a contract in the mold of MacDonald's (Dman - not goalie).

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Yep, it's kind of funny.

Rogers may have a real good shot at some point. I mean heck, the guy just went 13-19-32 in 34 games for Harvard - as a sophomore. It ain't shabby. Do we think differently if he goes 20-25-45 next season, one where he's already pegged as a first liner? Hasn't he also attended USA hockey evaluation camps?

Dibenedetto has proven that he can play top-flight OHL hockey with a star - not everyone can complement good players. Dunno where he's gonna be this upcoming season, but similar CHL numbers WITHOUT Stamkos should be enough to get him a reg. shift in the AHL by 09-10.

Donovan is simply someone we know little about. This guy could go to college and become an immediate prospect in our eyes by this time next year.

And who knows, Martin may even become a real fighter/pest at some point in the next three years. It's really up to him and how much he wants it. It's not like guys like McGratton and A. Roy were raved about in the junior days.

Heck, with a career +34 at Clarkson, I don't even think Mason is out of the picture of getting at least a contract in the mold of MacDonald's (Dman - not goalie).
I asked Mason what he thought he needed to do to make the jump after his hockey season is over this spring. Here is his answer:

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Mason: I think it is important to conduct oneself in a professional manner on and off the ice. I will need to play with more passion, be more consistent and contribute more offensively this year. If I can do that whilst fulfilling the role I need to play within my team at Clarkson, then that is really all I can ask of myself. These sorts of things will help me in becoming a professional hockey player once I have completed my college career.
To read more from Mason, click here

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