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08-22-2008, 11:26 PM
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I would do Kesler for Gomez with that rangers can get little under the cap also Wellwood gets a spot to play if Kesler gets traded

then the lines for vancouver would look like:

Raymond-Gomez-Demitra
Sedin-Sedin-Bernier
Burrows-Wellwood-Pyatt
Hordichuck-Johnson-Pettinger

Ohlund-Edler
Bieksa-Mitchell
Krajicek-Salo

Luongo
Sanford

Not too bad IMO

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08-22-2008, 11:31 PM
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then the lines for vancouver would look like:

Raymond-Gomez-Demitra
Sedin-Sedin-Bernier
Burrows-Wellwood-Pyatt
Hordichuck-Johnson-Pettinger
He's not even close to being a 1st line player.

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08-22-2008, 11:32 PM
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I would do Kesler for Gomez with that rangers can get little under the cap also Wellwood gets a spot to play if Kesler gets traded

then the lines for vancouver would look like:

Raymond-Gomez-Demitra
Sedin-Sedin-Bernier
Burrows-Wellwood-Pyatt
Hordichuck-Johnson-Pettinger

Ohlund-Edler
Bieksa-Mitchell
Krajicek-Salo

Luongo
Sanford

Not too bad IMO
At the state of the franchise Gillis stated that he believed Kesler could me moved up to a more prominent role and could score a lot more than 21 goals. Didn't sound like he wanted to part with him.

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08-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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Really? Gomez is the personification of a north-south speed game?
Gomez is one of the best in the league carrying the puck through the neutral zone with speed and establishing the offensive zone. I don't know if he's the personification of the north-south game, but he's very very good at it.

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08-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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This is just Eklund being Eklund.

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08-22-2008, 11:43 PM
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I don't think rangers need anything of much value if they trade gomez. They probably realize now what a horrible contract that is and if they can offload that to another team, it's a win win for them. They sign sundin for one year and then have lots of cap space to sign a free agent next year.
Constant turnover is never good for the make up of the team. I've been openly critical of NYR's moves, but Gomez is a part of NYR's core of players. He was a major part of their success last year. Dealing Gomez does not only change the direction of the team, but devastate the chemistry worse than it already has been.

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08-22-2008, 11:55 PM
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First of all, Ecklund is about the most unreliable source for any information. He comes up with the most outlandish rumors that never come to pass. Gomez is not going anywhere. He has tremendous speed and plays a north-south game that fits perfectly with that of Zherdev...not to mention Gomez has the right to veto three trades per season, so he would have to approve the deal.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, the most likely scenario that would bring Sundin to NY would be a trade of Prucha and likely Blair Betts. That would give about $4 million to give Sundin in base salary while tossing in $3 million in bonii. In that scenario the following, with some tweaking, would probably be close to the line combos.

Naslund-Sundin-Drury(played wing in Buffalo)
Dawes-Gomez-Zherdev
Korpikoski-Dubinsky-Callahan
Rissmiller-Fritsche-Voros

extra: Orr

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08-22-2008, 11:58 PM
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I don't see the Rangers trading Gomez

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08-23-2008, 12:00 AM
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What's eklunds success rate with (e4)s?

20%? 25%?
His success rate is poor all across the board but when it comes to the Oilers he has a rate of 0% with E4's and E5's. He's been wrong on all of them. I believe there's been two of each.

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08-23-2008, 12:17 AM
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That would give about $4 million to give Sundin in base salary while tossing in $3 million in bonii.
Don't listen to eklund about the nhlpa renewing the option years this sept, cause it's not going to happen. Therefore, any bonuses for sundin would count towards this year's cap.

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=242079

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For the purposes of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the 2008-09 season is considered the fourth and "final" year of the contract with the NHL Players' Association. That's because the NHLPA has a "re-opener" which would allow it to terminate the existing CBA as long as the PA provides notice to that effect 120 days before Sept. 15, 2009. If the NHLPA doesn't exercise its "re-opener" the contract would be extended for another two years after this season.

But the important distinction is that until that matter is officially resolved - probably not until well into this coming season or even after it - the 2008-09 is technically regarded as the final year of the CBA. And it could be, we will see.

Why does that matter?

Because there is a clause in the CBA that says in the final year of the contract - this one coming up - there is no provision permitted for the Performance Bonus Cushion.

And what exactly does that mean and why should we care?

Basically, the performance bonus "cushion" allows teams to exceed the salary cap number if it's on earned performance bonuses and defer it against the next year's salary cap. Now, this season, that cannot happen.

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08-23-2008, 12:23 AM
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I've been reading Eklund this offseason for the first time and it couldnt be more frustrating.

can someone enlighten me and tell me what e3, e4, e5 etc. mean?

(im guessing it doesnt mean error on the 1b, 2b, 3B, hahaha)
By his standards:

E1- Heard by a source
E2- Heard by a 2 sources
E3- Heard by 3 sources involved
E4- Heard by sources from both teams
E5- Confirmed by sources

I think it's something along those lines.

Realistic standards:

E1 - 0% chance
E2 - 0.1% chance
E3 - 1%
E4 - 5%
E5 - 5.5%

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08-23-2008, 12:24 AM
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the asking price might be a little high for gomez, but if vancouver doesn’t get Sundin then they don't have very many options so I think Gillis might take the risk and over pay for gomez. It will probably take a roster player (Kesler or Elder) a prospect (Grabner or Raymond) and a high draft pick to get Gomez out of the big apple.
but like Luongo10 said if vancouver trades kesler then wellwood probably gets the 3rd line roll, which i think he could step into pretty well

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08-23-2008, 12:24 AM
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Ok... this is just kinda pathetic since fogducker told us about what happend with this LAST MONTH on Team1040

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=540659

LOLZ!!!!

i <3 Eklund...

Plus I dont think Gomez would be a good fit in Van.

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08-23-2008, 12:27 AM
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Ok... this is just kinda pathetic since fogducker told us about what happend with this LAST MONTH on Team1040

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=540659

LOLZ!!!!

i <3 Eklund...

Plus I dont think Gomez would be a good fit in Van.
He just hopes that if you throw enough **** at a wall, eventually it'll stick.

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Doesn't Gomez have a ntc?

And if so... Why would he choose to waive it to make room for his 38yr old replacement.

I wouldn't.

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08-23-2008, 12:37 AM
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Doesn't Gomez have a ntc?

And if so... Why would he choose to waive it to make room for his 38yr old replacement.

I wouldn't.
Not really. He can deny trades to 3 teams every season. Plus the teams the Rangers wouldn't trade him to.... so, maybe 10 teams?

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08-23-2008, 12:41 AM
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Hodgson and a 1st for Gomez? That's a deal that I MAY think about.


.....Awful.........just awful. Why do I even raise my blood pressure?
Well you have to look at any deal + Sundin to NY, since that's why the hypothetical deal is being done.

I already have Vancouver in the playoffs without Gomez; I'm not sure how much his playmaking abilities help a team in need of finish, but it can't hurt.

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08-23-2008, 12:52 AM
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Eklund is just trying to draw more fans from Vancouver and New York into his web site. As we all know, both Vancouver and New YOrk have huge fan bases, so hes just trying to get more ip's into his site.

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08-23-2008, 12:55 AM
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Eklund is just trying to draw more fans from Vancouver and New York into his web site. As we all know, both Vancouver and New YOrk have huge fan bases, so hes just trying to get more ip's into his site.
Exactly. More people going to his site = more money for him. I've stopped going there. Hopefully many more will follow.

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how about
Gomez + Kalinin
for
Edler + Pyatt + 2nd

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08-23-2008, 12:58 AM
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Relax its Eklund and hes panicing because he may only have a few days left of uttering bs,before Sundin states what he's really doing next week(?)

Nyr would only take draft picks because of cap as Sundin would take all of Gomez's salary.

The other mistake Eklund makes is that Montreal would trade for Lang,they dont need a centerman unless its Sundin(impact,big and very good face off man).

Eklund is panicing his gravy train is leaving the station.

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Rumour: I heard Eklund's out to lunch.....He8



As for Vancouver who needs a Plan B, this isn't that bad of a deal. NYR are going to get bent over though, no way they get fair value in this situation.

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Doesn't Gomez have a ntc?

And if so... Why would he choose to waive it to make room for his 38yr old replacement.

I wouldn't.
The only plausible reason would be to have a legitimate replacement for Jagr in a leadership role; ie. captain.

Doesn't make sense, and people should be ashamed for even visiting his site.

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the asking price might be a little high for gomez, but if vancouver doesn’t get Sundin then they don't have very many options so I think Gillis might take the risk and over pay for gomez. It will probably take a roster player (Kesler or Elder) a prospect (Grabner or Raymond) and a high draft pick to get Gomez out of the big apple.
but like Luongo10 said if vancouver trades kesler then wellwood probably gets the 3rd line roll, which i think he could step into pretty well
Wellwood sucks at checking. I'd rather have him be the 2nd line centre over gaining Gomez and losing Kesler.

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By his standards:

E1- Heard by a source
E2- Heard by a 2 sources
E3- Heard by 3 sources involved
E4- Heard by sources from both teams
E5- Confirmed by sources

I think it's something along those lines.

Realistic standards:

E1 - 0% chance
E2 - 0.1% chance
E3 - 1%
E4 - 5%
E5 - 5.5%
E1 he totally made it up
E2 he read the idea on a hfboards chat
E3 he heard it on the radio (sometimes via a hfboards chat)
E4 he saw the rumour in print media
E5 the trade's already happened

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