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08-25-2008, 04:46 PM
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Jagrs dad gives his 2 cents on last season.

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Doesn't seem to be a big fan of the North American style of hockey or the way the Rangers have built their team. At least not in 07-08.

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08-25-2008, 05:03 PM
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I read it slightly before you posted this ,lol
anyway , seems like his dad just plain dosne't like the nhl because guess what more or less its north american type play and not euro , guess thats why his dad was pushing for him leave the nhl sooner or later.

how's this for a quote though
"You should have made me play tennis"

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you know, im not sure i can argue with anything the guy says there.

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you know, im not sure i can argue with anything the guy says there.
Me either. I thought he pretty dead on actually.

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So who would Daddy Jagr have signed to 'compliment' his son, Old Man Nylander? He doesn't say, so his reasoning is half assed. Come on you're a Jagr, use your WHOLE ass

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Well I am sure someone at THN will take this and write another article about how bad the Rangers are. Papa Jagr isn't wrong, and frankly I could care less.

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So who would Daddy Jagr have signed to 'compliment' his son, Old Man Nylander? He doesn't say, so his reasoning is half assed. Come on you're a Jagr, use your WHOLE ass
LoL. Pretty funny actually. That ass of his made him one of the top five players ever to play the game though. 1,599 points and he still had hundreds left in him.

I can't say I really argue with much of it either. He is right. The Rangers brought in players and it didn't work well and I don't think the team was really built well either. Gomez and Drury were both poor signings. I can't wait to see this kid Cherapenov play in the NHL though, apparently Jagr is his "4th coach" can't wait to see what he can do here. IF he comes here. Jagr mentoring you is a blessing.

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I'm pretty sure Sather knew there would be a high possibility of chemistry problems with Jagr and Gomez/Drury, but didn't really care. I bet to him, the price of going forward was more than worth it

Hopefully we are actually going forward, otherwise that was quite a waste of a season when you think about it.

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his dad is right. a team built around Jagr would've been more competetive....last year, this year and possibly next.....then what??

as much as i miss the guy, he's 37, management had to think about the future.

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sad thing is. we could've won a cup while we had him.

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sad thing is. we could've won a cup while we had him.
Right, that would mean beating either the '07 Ducks or the '08 Wings

Not a chance

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Papa Jagr is so right....


Nobody had chem with Jagr...why..because the "god" renney couldnt keep a line together for more then 3 weeks..cept Dubi.

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3 weeks? More like 1 period. Then he switched back to the original lines, as always.

I can also only say papa Jagr was right. The team still had Jagr as the star to build around, but the players around him couldn't play his style. Dubi could somewhat adapt, but not enough. Straka suffered even more. For the playoffs, Jagr entered playoff mode.

I still mean our PP has been the worst part though. Absolutely horrendeus, watching professionals just stand there like spectators on the ice without motion or movement...

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no word about that link in the article?

http://rangerland.net/?p=1244

nice little rant

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no word about that link in the article?

http://rangerland.net/?p=1244

nice little rant
LAUGH MY A OFF!!! that can't really be rozsival can it? i can't imagine this guy fighting on ice much less cussing at all his "haters"

just to imagine if thats really him gets me pumped haha!

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LoL. Pretty funny actually. That ass of his made him one of the top five players ever to play the game though. 1,599 points and he still had hundreds left in him.

I can't say I really argue with much of it either. He is right. The Rangers brought in players and it didn't work well and I don't think the team was really built well either. Gomez and Drury were both poor signings. I can't wait to see this kid Cherapenov play in the NHL though, apparently Jagr is his "4th coach" can't wait to see what he can do here. IF he comes here. Jagr mentoring you is a blessing.
Oh right ! Jagr can do no wrong, its everything else's fault !

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no word about that link in the article?

http://rangerland.net/?p=1244

nice little rant
if anyone knows anybody in the organization who could show this to rozsival, they totally should pass it on. hilarious.

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08-26-2008, 09:19 AM
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Eh, Jagr's dad isn't completely wrong, but he's not completely right either.

For one, Jagr deserves a lot more blame for his own performance than his dad was doling out. Yeah, he didn't click with other players as well as he did with Nylander, but he also was obviously not doing some of the things that made him successful in the past. He would not shoot the puck like he had in the past at the very least.

I like Jagr and wanted him back, but he simply didn't play up to his potential last year and it wasn't just because of his linemates.

Second thing...at this point I think it's pretty obvious that signings like Drury and Gomez were part of a long term move away from Jagr and his crew. So I think Jagr Sr. has it a bit wrong when he starts talking about the Rangers signing players and expecting them to be stars and not building the team well. Last years team might not have been completely coherent, but I don't think the Rangers signed Gomez and Drury without any regard to how the team will be constructed. I think they were pretty clearly planning for life without Jagr

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Second thing...at this point I think it's pretty obvious that signings like Drury and Gomez were part of a long term move away from Jagr and his crew.
I still see those two signings as dumb luck (getting both of them I mean) that has dictated the course of the team after the fact, not part of some grand scheme that Slats had in mind all along. No doubt the team was going to move away from Jagr and the Czech posse (he's 36 after all) but having both centers fall into his lap last summer undoubtedly hastened the speed of that transition. Whether that will be a good or bad thing remains to be seen.

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Yeah I think getting both of them wasn't exactly the plan, but getting players of that type was. I'm pretty sure I recall hearing about how the Rangers wanted to get more North/South play on the team, ostensibly because they felt all the dipsy doodling wasn't getting the team far enough and was too easy for other teams to defend against.

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I could care less about what Jagr's Dad has to say about the team. But that's just me.

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But that's just me.
Nope. It's not.

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Who is this guy, the Carl Lindros of the Czech Republic?

You know it's just sour grapes when he feels the need to cite 1997-2004. The Rangers saved him from hockey hell in Washington, made him the centerpiece of the organization, allowed him to select roster and linemates and even dictate the game strategy. Are parting shots really necessary for a team that OBVIOUSLY was far from perfect?

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Who is this guy, the Carl Lindros of the Czech Republic?

You know it's just sour grapes when he feels the need to cite 1997-2004. The Rangers saved him from hockey hell in Washington, made him the centerpiece of the organization, allowed him to select roster and linemates and even dictate the game strategy. Are parting shots really necessary for a team that OBVIOUSLY was far from perfect?
Lets add to the fact that jagr himself said nothing but GOOD things about the rangers after it didn't work out , unlike a certain backstabbing Awipe.

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His father is right. The teams of the late 90s/early 2000s were so poorly constructed, whether it was all Glen or pressure from Dolan I doubt we will never find out. What really pisses me off about this off-season is that I see almost an identical situation going on. And Sather should 100% get the axe if we don't qualify for the playoffs.

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