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09-16-2008, 12:32 PM
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The Slapshot

I think that's what were missing...

After watching the Rangers and Pens... watching Malkin blaze a slapper past Lundqvist glove side, watching Hossa do the same.

You got that feeling that if these guys got the puck in a good spot, with time to shoot, it was going to be a goal.

The kind of shot Shanny used to have, a "Buzz bomb", the kind of shot Jagr used to have from the point of the one timer.

I really think that's something this team really missed last year when Shanny and Jagr either couldn't or wouldn't let em go like they used to.

The defense starts to collapse down low taking away the passing game when they have little fear of an outside shot.

Do we have a guy who can strike fear in a goalie from shot alone?

Can Naslund, or Zherdev be that guy? Drury has a shot, but he can't seem to either pin point it or release quickly enough to be that kind of guy.

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09-16-2008, 12:52 PM
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I think a true slapshot is a rarity in today's league. Defenses are so much quicker, and the room/time you need to properly load up a slapshot just isn't there any more. Outside of one-timers, how many legit slapshots has anyone seen recently?

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I think a true slapshot is a rarity in today's league. Defenses are so much quicker, and the room/time you need to properly load up a slapshot just isn't there any more. Outside of one-timers, how many legit slapshots has anyone seen recently?
Exactly, plus with the skill and quickness of today's goalies a regular slap shot gives lots of time to setup. Doesn't mean that they don't occur and that players don't score off them. However, the one timer is the most efficient type of slap shot. Plus most players would rather take a snapshot which is much more accurate, quicker to execute and still quite powerful as opposed to a slap shot which takes a long time to execute and is very inaccurate.


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09-16-2008, 01:07 PM
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All of these guys are NHL players. They can take slap shots. And if they can't, they shouldn't be there.

However, it is the WORST shot you can possibly use in about 99.99% of all situations. The ONLY time you ever wind up for a shot like that is when you are wide open and have the time. You ever see a wrist shot get blocked at the point and turned into an odd man rush? No. And if so, rare. Slappers are the least accurate, most likely to snap your stick, most likely to get blocked, and easiest for a goaltender to read. Unless you are Malkin, Hossa, or some of the guys you named, you should not do it.

What was missing on the power play were guys who would shoot the puck. Period. It's called a power play, not a power pass.

And there is no such things as striking fear into anyone. This is not the Might Ducks movie. These guys do not get fear when someone is taking a shot.

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09-16-2008, 01:13 PM
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All of these guys are NHL players. They can take slap shots. And if they can't, they shouldn't be there.

However, it is the WORST shot you can possibly use in about 99.99% of all situations. The ONLY time you ever wind up for a shot like that is when you are wide open and have the time. You ever see a wrist shot get blocked at the point and turned into an odd man rush? No. And if so, rare. Slappers are the least accurate, most likely to snap your stick, most likely to get blocked, and easiest for a goaltender to read. Unless you are Malkin, Hossa, or some of the guys you named, you should not do it.

What was missing on the power play were guys who would shoot the puck. Period. It's called a power play, not a power pass.

And there is no such things as striking fear into anyone. This is not the Might Ducks movie. These guys do not get fear when someone is taking a shot.

Agree with most everything you said. Want to add that what this team really missed is the big shot from the point on the pp. Its been a long, long time since we had a big shooter on the point. Really its the only time you get to use a slap shoot in this league anymore. And yes, I do belive that players feared and would still fear getting infront of a Al Macinnis or Al Iafrate slap shot.

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Agree with most everything you said. Want to add that what this team really missed is the big shot from the point on the pp. Its been a long, long time since we had a big shooter on the point. Really its the only time you get to use a slap shoot in this league anymore. And yes, I do belive that players feared and would still fear getting infront of a Al Macinnis or Al Iafrate slap shot.
Well, our guys do have great shots...but again, when they decide to use them.

Hopefully that is what we will see now. Now that the PP is less predictable, and it doesn't revolve around one guy, we should see guys taking more shots.... hopefully.

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accuracy>>>>>power

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Only time I ever wind up for a slap shot it to generate offense, put the puck in front of the net and make the chance for a garbage goal, or wind up and fake it for the pass.

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Mara has that sort of shot....maybe he needs to work on the accuracy aspect but he definitely has the shot to make it tough for goalies.

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Having traffic in front of the net is more important than having someone who can shoot hard. I'd rather have someone with a quick release and a low accurate shot then someone who can break the sound barrier with their shot. The problem with our PP last year is that we had point men who were hesistant to shoot at all, combined with no traffic in front of the net because we had Shanny sitting in the high slot.

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Having traffic in front of the net is more important than having someone who can shoot hard. I'd rather have someone with a quick release and a low accurate shot then someone who can break the sound barrier with their shot. The problem with our PP last year is that we had point men who were hesistant to shoot at all, combined with no traffic in front of the net because we had Shanny sitting in the high slot.
Having someone that can shoot hard plus traffic in front of the goalie is a killer combination. With Jagr on the pp everyone passed the puck to him. The point men couldn't or didn't want to shoot. This allowed the pk'ers to play off them clogging up the slot area making it even more difficult to complete the fancy passes that Jagr and Co. were attempting.

Hopefully this season we will see the point men launch the puck on net with some screening in front and picking up the garbage. Remains to be seen!

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Mara has that sort of shot....maybe he needs to work on the accuracy aspect but he definitely has the shot to make it tough for goalies.
Agreed, Mara has such a heavy shot that if he were to be a little more accurate and aggressive with it, it could be a huge difference maker in a few games/PP moments.

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Agreed, Mara has such a heavy shot that if he were to be a little more accurate and aggressive with it, it could be a huge difference maker in a few games/PP moments.
Don't remember him getting much of a chance on the pp. But yes, he does have a hard heavy shot that would seem to make him a choice to man one of the points on the pp.

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These are NHL players we're talking about. They can put a slap shot, wrist shot, backhand, whatever wherever they want to. True sometimes a shot gets away from you and generally the slapper is the one to go awry, but to say that a slap shot is a stupid shot to take is... Well stupid.

If you don't believe that you can practice shot placement and become good watch this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFoeLMm1d8M


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All of these guys are NHL players. They can take slap shots. And if they can't, they shouldn't be there.

However, it is the WORST shot you can possibly use in about 99.99% of all situations. The ONLY time you ever wind up for a shot like that is when you are wide open and have the time. You ever see a wrist shot get blocked at the point and turned into an odd man rush? No. And if so, rare. Slappers are the least accurate, most likely to snap your stick, most likely to get blocked, and easiest for a goaltender to read. Unless you are Malkin, Hossa, or some of the guys you named, you should not do it.

What was missing on the power play were guys who would shoot the puck. Period. It's called a power play, not a power pass.

And there is no such things as striking fear into anyone. This is not the Might Ducks movie. These guys do not get fear when someone is taking a shot.
Wow dude. That may have been one of the best posts I have read on this board in a looong time. Agree wholeheartedly.

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All of these guys are NHL players. They can take slap shots. And if they can't, they shouldn't be there.

However, it is the WORST shot you can possibly use in about 99.99% of all situations. The ONLY time you ever wind up for a shot like that is when you are wide open and have the time. You ever see a wrist shot get blocked at the point and turned into an odd man rush? No. And if so, rare. Slappers are the least accurate, most likely to snap your stick, most likely to get blocked, and easiest for a goaltender to read. Unless you are Malkin, Hossa, or some of the guys you named, you should not do it.

What was missing on the power play were guys who would shoot the puck. Period. It's called a power play, not a power pass.

And there is no such things as striking fear into anyone. This is not the Might Ducks movie. These guys do not get fear when someone is taking a shot.

You do realize the guys that are the top offensive goal scorers on defense do it with slapshots, and score most of their goals from the point using it? (Souray, Phaneuf, Chara, Pronger, etc)

Slapshot >>> Wrist shot from the point anyday if you can pull it off quickly (one timers).

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I think a true slapshot is a rarity in today's league. Defenses are so much quicker, and the room/time you need to properly load up a slapshot just isn't there any more. Outside of one-timers, how many legit slapshots has anyone seen recently?
I believe Marty Straka saw two of those last season during the same shift.

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anybody here watch a lot of capitals games? ovie has a few moves working the point: pass, slip around and wrist one from the top of the circle, and bomb a slapper at the net. his slapshots are hard, on goal, and low. easy to deflect, but tough to save by themselves.

i know we don't have ovechkin . we do, however, have paul mara, who has a blistering rocket from the point. with a screen in front of the net and him blasting those ON GOAL, i bet we'd see a big increase in PP productivity. the slapshot is a major weapon if executed properly.

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I think the Rangers...

have lacked pure goal scorers over the years. Forget the slap shot - let's talk about shots that hit the net where the goalie ain't. Either the Rangers forwards (and defensemen) are being too fine and trying to hit corners and miss, or the Rangers' forwards (or defensemen) are unskilled and just shoot haphazzardly because they were taught if you put pucks on the net good things happen, or the Rangers forwards (or defensemen) are too small/not good in traffic and they can't get off the good shots from in close, or they just flat-out can't hit the net (like most of their point guys). I think that's what we've seen - forget the type of shot. What's missing are pure goal scorers. Too much dipsy-do and fancy schmancy - not enough grit and guys putting the puck in a good place.

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I disagree. Slapshots are overrated. Jagr and Shanny would throw bombs from the point and at least 8/10 times they are blocked or miss the net.

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have lacked pure goal scorers over the years. Forget the slap shot - let's talk about shots that hit the net where the goalie ain't. Either the Rangers forwards (and defensemen) are being too fine and trying to hit corners and miss, or the Rangers' forwards (or defensemen) are unskilled and just shoot haphazzardly because they were taught if you put pucks on the net good things happen, or the Rangers forwards (or defensemen) are too small/not good in traffic and they can't get off the good shots from in close, or they just flat-out can't hit the net (like most of their point guys). I think that's what we've seen - forget the type of shot. What's missing are pure goal scorers. Too much dipsy-do and fancy schmancy - not enough grit and guys putting the puck in a good place.
You drilled it. You dont see many shots that just beat the goalie. Whenever our guys take shots it seems to be right into their chests. They have been missing the Zherdev that makes the goalie look like an idiot.

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You do realize the guys that are the top offensive goal scorers on defense do it with slapshots, and score most of their goals from the point using it? (Souray, Phaneuf, Chara, Pronger, etc)

Slapshot >>> Wrist shot from the point anyday if you can pull it off quickly (one timers).
Those guys get goals from "slapshots" because they don't wind up like idiots and take over a second to get the shot off. If you watch Phaneuf, he is strong enough to take a half slap shot, and be much more accurate with it, incase he is looking for a tip or a slap-pass.

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I Think Rosival has that type of shot... he just needs to actually shoot the puck though. With Jagr off of that powerplay I think the coaching staff will center it around the back line. Redden as the QB and Rosival bombing shots... kind of a beat up version of Leetch-Zubov.

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DAMMIT!! Is that goal regulation size or what????

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