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10-05-2008, 11:29 AM
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Hodgson Signed

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What does this exactly mean? He can still play in junior, right? Or is he subject to either the AHL or the NHL now?

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10-05-2008, 11:31 AM
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He can still go back to junior even with a contract. I'm guessing they just wanted to get the deal out of the way now as many teams usually do.

I also believe it gets his signing bonus off the cap this season. It's not a huge amount of money, but when you may as well use up cap space when you have a ton of it.

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he's still ineligible for the AHL. He'll be back in Junior.
It just means we won't lose him to the draft in 2 years.

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10-05-2008, 11:32 AM
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He can't play in the AHL until he's 20, but he has to play more than 9 games at the NHL level for an entire season of his contract to kick in.

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10-05-2008, 11:45 AM
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I think what this means is that he can now play in the 9 games with the canucks this season.

he will still be sent back to junior after those 9 games... and should be a big part of the WJC team this season.

correct me if I'm wrong, but without that contract he would have to be sent back to junior after camp, as he would not be able to play any regular season games with the team.

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10-05-2008, 11:55 AM
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correct me if I'm wrong, but without that contract he would have to be sent back to junior after camp, as he would not be able to play any regular season games with the team.
That is correct. I still wouldn't be surprised if he is sent back to juniors in the next couple days, but the team might as well just keep him around for the 9 games and see how it goes.

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10-05-2008, 11:58 AM
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That is correct. I still wouldn't be surprised if he is sent back to juniors in the next couple days, but the team might as well just keep him around for the 9 games and see how it goes.
I don't think the team can afford to keep him around. To do so, they would have send one of Hansen, Raymond, Wellwood or Rypien down. That would send the wrong message to players who have earned a roster spot and Wellwood and Rypien are waiver eligible.

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I don't think the team can afford to keep him around. To do so, they would have send one of Hansen, Raymond, Wellwood or Rypien down. That would send the wrong message to players who have earned a roster spot and Wellwood and Rypien are waiver eligible.
Yea, good point. Not sure if Pettinger's injury affects the Canucks ability to carry an extra player, but if it does my guess is it would be Hodgson. Even if he doesn't get into many games, it's still nice to have him around for practices and whatnot for the first 9 games or so. Obviously don't keep him around too long if he's not playing though.

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10-05-2008, 01:20 PM
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I won't complain if Hodgson is kept around to get 9 games of NHL experience, but I won't complain if he doesn't either. The experience of camp should have been a huge boost to him, and I can't wait to see what he does this year, particularly with the WJC on the horizon. Going to be nice to have a potential impact player to watch for Team Canada for once!

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10-05-2008, 01:29 PM
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Yea, good point. Not sure if Pettinger's injury affects the Canucks ability to carry an extra player, but if it does my guess is it would be Hodgson.
cue the old Pat Quinn excuse for Pettinger....."upper body injury".

It will mysteriously last for 9 NHL games.

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10-05-2008, 01:30 PM
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Do you think Hodgson would around this long if:

1) He wasn't the 10th overal pick

2) He wasn't drafted by Gillis

I think the answer is no, and that politics are the only reason he is around.

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10-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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Do you think Hodgson would around this long if:

1) He wasn't the 10th overal pick

2) He wasn't drafted by Gillis

I think the answer is no, and that politics are the only reason he is around.
He was our first round pick, a high pick with a lot invested in him, and the team wants him to suck in as much pro experience as possible. I don't think it's a bad thing he's been kept around this long.

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10-05-2008, 01:41 PM
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Do you think Hodgson would around this long if:

1) He wasn't the 10th overal pick

2) He wasn't drafted by Gillis

I think the answer is no, and that politics are the only reason he is around.
Ehh.

It's not like he's been getting oodles of icetime. Keep in mind, too, who he is competing with: Krog, Wellwood and Hansen. The only guy who has a spot locked up, IMO, is Hansen. The other two are Gillis signings/pickups, so what is he trying to do here, politically?

Everyone knows Hodgson is going to be great. There's no need to showcase him: he'll get lots of attention in December.

Anyone else think that potentially Hodgson will stay with the Canucks, leave for the WJC and then come back? I know, it's not something that regularly (if ever, I think the only comparable to this would be MAF, but my memory's hazy) happens, but we just did name our goalie captain...

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I guess this means he will be getting his 9 games.

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10-05-2008, 01:46 PM
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Anyone else think that potentially Hodgson will stay with the Canucks, leave for the WJC and then come back? I know, it's not something that regularly (if ever, I think the only comparable to this would be MAF, but my memory's hazy) happens, but we just did name our goalie captain...
That only ever happens if the NHL team is a lock to miss the playoffs.

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10-05-2008, 01:48 PM
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That only ever happens if the NHL team is a lock to miss the playoffs.
Right, but I'm done trying to figure out what Gillis has planned. From his statements about 'working out a plan for Hodgson' and the fact that he just got signed, it makes me wonder what exactly he DOES have planned.

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10-05-2008, 01:58 PM
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That AHL rule is ridiculous. You can play in the NHL but you can't play in the AHL because you aren't old enough? Can't understand why they haven't gotten rid of that rule yet.

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10-05-2008, 02:02 PM
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That AHL rule is ridiculous. You can play in the NHL but you can't play in the AHL because you aren't old enough? Can't understand why they haven't gotten rid of that rule yet.
It is to stop the CHL from losing all of its top players.

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10-05-2008, 02:06 PM
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I know why it's there - I just think it's a bad rule.

It would be like MLB telling teams they can't promote any under 20 YO's above A ball unless you keep them on the ML roster. What would be best for Hodgson's development if he isn't in the NHL would be to play against men in the A - not repeating a junior level where he has dominated.

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10-05-2008, 02:51 PM
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It is to stop the CHL from losing all of its top players.
Don't their top players already go to the NHL? So technically, it's their second tier players.

(I know what you meant, just being silly. )

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10-05-2008, 02:55 PM
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It's also an union thing, so guys in the AHL don't lose their jobs to teenagers.

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10-05-2008, 03:03 PM
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Reasons for keeping Hodgson for 9 games.

1) Publicity, your most recent 1st round draft pick dresses to show case his ability, trying to get casual fans to get more into it. Telling people our drafting is better.

2) Good feeling news, After Bourdon's accident, and White seemingly busted, Grabner not making roster. This gives the team something good to feel about, a young kid in the NHL, he's excited, and if all the leadership qualities that the scouts says he has, he'll be able to excit the team as well.

3) Money. Potential sticking with line up? If he scores a big goal, your going to see a few Hodgson jerseys flying around. Especially with the casual fans.

4) Potential. If the switch is turned on and he sticks to our line up, we have solved our 2nd line center position, for the next 10-15 years.

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I have a question, if I may.


Are we allowed to bring Hodgson up from the Juniors for 9 straight games, or are we allowed to disperse his playing time to whatever. So, for example, he plays three games in one month, and then we call him up six months later and let him play six more?


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I have a question, if I may.


Are we allowed to bring Hodgson up from the Juniors for 9 straight games, or are we allowed to disperse his playing time to whatever. So, for example, he plays three games in one month, and then we call him up six months later and let him play six more?


Much appreciated, amigos.
No. You can choose which games you want him to play in, dragging out those 9 games as far as you can, as long as he's not dressed for the other games. However, once he's sent back down, he's down for good.

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