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09-09-2008, 06:24 AM
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hm... ? I never said Kopitar was a phenom.
You said he was one of the best forwards in the NHL.

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I'd bet the farm that Paul Bourgoin wanted the Habs to draft Brule at #5 in 2005 over Kopitar or Price.
Absolutely, I'll put up my farm for a piece of that action also.

It is so silly to critisize a team, any team, for passing over a player that plays better than the player you drafted. Unlike light bulbs that we can test for durability and performance these are 18 year old kids. Equally silly is the thought that most teams in the league wouldn't rather have a Brodeuresque franchise goalie over an Anze Kopitar.

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You said he was one of the best forwards in the NHL.
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You said he was one of the best forwards in the NHL.
exactly. and what's your point?

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exactly. and what's your point?
2 points:

1) He's one of the best forwards in the NHL, but he's not a phenom?

2) He's not one of the best forwards in the NHL. Not yet at least.

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geez ! another victim brainwashed by the Gazette propaganda !

I find it funny that Mcafee considers the gazette to be a host for spy/adware.

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09-10-2008, 07:44 PM
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Gainey's strength and what he brought to the Habs was a calming influence from top to bottom. He didn't do a lot, maybe hire Hammer and little things like that but his leadership was beneficial to the Habs as a whole. And that's what in the end the ultimate boss should be: Be a Leader and make everybody better.

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2 points:

1) He's one of the best forwards in the NHL, but he's not a phenom?
Being one of the best doesn't make you a phenom. Danny Heathly is a good player while Crosby is a Phenom.

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2) He's not one of the best forwards in the NHL. Not yet at least.
Naa Kopitar is just some bum that cannot skate.

I think Kopitar would be the Habs' number one center if he would be with us.


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Gainey's strength and what he brought to the Habs was a calming influence from top to bottom. He didn't do a lot, maybe hire Hammer and little things like that but his leadership was beneficial to the Habs as a whole. And that's what in the end the ultimate boss should be: Be a Leader and make everybody better.
His biggest strength IMO is that he just don't give a **** about the media/fans and their pressure. You also have to thanks Gillette for giving him a free card.

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That'S your opinion, I think he has potential. Might not be totally ready mentally. Time will tell I guess, we need to give him some ice time and see what that brings us.
Chipchura may be an important member one day, but I will be shocked if he is a regular in a healthy lineup for us this season.

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and if you look at like this...if we decided to take getzlaf or perry over andrei kostitsyn there's a good chance our scouts wouldn't have put much emphasis in scouting his brother sergei. So yah, i'd take the Kost brothers over one of Getzlaf or Perry ANY freaking day.

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Being one of the best doesn't make you a phenom. Danny Heathly is a good player while Crosby is a Phenom.



Naa Kopitar is just some bum that cannot skate.

I think Kopitar would be the Habs' number one center if he would be with us.
I'm a huge Kopitar fan, but even I recognize the flaws in his game. He's tremendously talented, but he isn't one of the "best" yet. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Iginla or Hossa this early. If you list the NHL's best forwards, he'll crack the top 25. Kopitar would be the number one center on a lot of teams, but he's merely a talented young player at the moment, not quite one of the best.

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"Gainey gets too much praise"- Paul Bourgoin

Beh...just another knobgobbler, who cares what he says.

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I'd bet the farm that Paul Bourgoin wanted the Habs to draft Brule at #5 in 2005 over Kopitar or Price.
LOL that was my thought too...

Can't blame him I wanted Brule too... I remember being really pissed we didn'T get Brule... but Bob and Trevor Proved me... and Paul... DEAD WRONG.

So the final word should be Shut Up Paul

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I actually can say that I wanted Bob to draft Kopitar at number 5 and wanted nothing to do with Brule, but I cannot say I am disapointed with Price.

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I'm a huge Kopitar fan, but even I recognize the flaws in his game. He's tremendously talented, but he isn't one of the "best" yet. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Iginla or Hossa this early. If you list the NHL's best forwards, he'll crack the top 25. Kopitar would be the number one center on a lot of teams, but he's merely a talented young player at the moment, not quite one of the best.
And I agree with that.

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09-13-2008, 11:45 AM
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That's a load of crap. Ever since 1994, Montreal has drafted some of the worst first picks when we could drafted much better. As an example
1995: we pick Terry Ryan instead of Iginla.
1997: We pick Jason Ward, then Ottawa picks Marian Hossa right AFTER us!
1998: We take Eric Chouinard instead of Gomez, Gagne or Regehr.
1999: Marcel Hossa instead of Frolov!

Whoever was GM at this time was a total monkey.
Also take a look at our stats, they're a reflection of team building. What Gainey has done for us has gotten our team out of the never ending circle of picking up key players like Linden and Recchi to carry our team. Instead, Gainey rebuilt our team by not selling players and picks for stars, being patient and signing players which would fit the missing pieces of the team and made smart sales in the trade deadline (Huet and Rivet).

That article just shows how stupid the writers are for the Gazette.

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That's a load of crap. Ever since 1994, Montreal has drafted some of the worst first picks when we could drafted much better. As an example
1995: we pick Terry Ryan instead of Iginla.
1997: We pick Jason Ward, then Ottawa picks Marian Hossa right AFTER us!
1998: We take Eric Chouinard instead of Gomez, Gagne or Regehr.
1999: Marcel Hossa instead of Frolov!

Whoever was GM at this time was a total monkey.
Also take a look at our stats, they're a reflection of team building. What Gainey has done for us has gotten our team out of the never ending circle of picking up key players like Linden and Recchi to carry our team. Instead, Gainey rebuilt our team by not selling players and picks for stars, being patient and signing players which would fit the missing pieces of the team and made smart sales in the trade deadline (Huet and Rivet).

That article just shows how stupid the writers are for the Gazette.
Houle was GM...


And Mr Bourguoin isnt a writter...its just a random person commenting

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And Mr Bourguoin isnt a writter...its just a random person commenting
Serge Savard is responsible of the Terry Ryan`s pick. He wanted Shane Doan who was gone at numer 6 or 7- He went for Ryan, then.

Serge Savard's first pick in the 90's were very questionable too. Heroux, Stevenson, Charboneau, Bilodeau, Brown, Vallis......

His only good one in the 90's was Koivu

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09-14-2008, 05:34 PM
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Bob Gainey and his staff should receive praise because it is well deserved!

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http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...b-26e960c874bb

Gainey has been able to make this franchise into a winning one again and ranked fourth for prospects by hockeysfuture.com. Bob Gainey and his staff should receive praise because it is well deserved!

Alex Taddeo


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He's definately done an amazing job. I've been one of his harshest critics, especially over failing to bring in top notch ufa's and losing Souray last season. But I have to admit he's built a serious contender in a few short seasons. I'd sure as heck prefer Gainey as our team's Gm over just about anyone else out there.

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The job he, along with his staff, has done is simply amazing. He has rebuilt a team that had so many holes it was not funny. There was no depth on the big club, no depth in terms of prospects, and a team that had no direction five/six years ago. Slowly he has built a team with an incredible prospect pool, depth on the big club, and a clear direction. This was all being accomplished without consciously tanking. In essence, it was a competitive rebuild. To think, I was asking for his head two years ago. Its a good thing I am not steering the Habs ship.

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Bob has done a great job, especially throughout hard times in his personal life. There is a piece on Bob and his daughter Laura who was on the ship on right now on cbc newsworld.

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To think, I was asking for his head two years ago. Its a good thing I am not steering the Habs ship.
The first sentence is in keeping with your username.

The last sentence indicates a level of lucidity in contradiction with your username.

Bob has done well. Excepting a few trades that garnered little or outright losses, like Ribeiro and Beauchemin, he has on average gotten a lot of players when their value was low.

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