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Biggest Habs rival: Bruins, Leafs, or Nordiques?

View Poll Results: Our Biggest Rival?
Leafs 55 26.57%
Bruins 100 48.31%
Sens 9 4.35%
Other 3 1.45%
Nordiques 40 19.32%
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05-11-2008, 09:26 PM
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Biggest Habs rival: Bruins, Leafs, or Nordiques?

Over the years,

the biggest rivals in Canadeisn history have been Toronto, Boston, and Quebec.

I know the Nordiques and Leafs games had the intensity, and that the Bruins games had the higher stakes (all those playoff meetings),

but let's settle it.

Who do YOU guys consider the biggest rival to the Canadiens?

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I wasn't alive to really witness the Habs/Nords rivalry, but I can tell you that I hate the Bruins more than the Leafs.

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Nordiques

Leafs.If we would play them in the playoffs it would be 100x more intense then playing the bruins







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Historically, its the Bruins. No doubt about it

But the guys we always hated the most were the Nordiques!

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To me it will always be the Leafs

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If I may offer my opinion:

(1) Habs-Leafs rivalry is blatantly overrated. It's a fan thing, not a team thing. We haven't played you guys in the playoffs during my lifetime. The teams haven't been big rivals in years, IMO. It's really just because it's the two biggest fanbases and most historical teams in Canada's two biggest cities...but the real essence of the rivalry hasn't been there in a long while.

(2) Even though it's usually one-sided, the Habs-Bruins rivalry is by far the most intense one on HF, and unlike Leafs-Habs, MTL and BOS have actually played each other in the playoffs many times in the past few decades.

(3) I don't know if any rivalry nowadays can compare to the sheer viciousness and awesomeness of Habs-Nords. The entire province of Quebec was a war zone when those two played. Games were bloody, the fans were nasty and the culture wars were riding high.

As an Ex-Nords fan, I miss those days a lot. There was nothing quite like Habs-Nords...there just wasn't. And due to the change in game style and team locations, I'm not sure we'll ever see it again.

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05-11-2008, 09:52 PM
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For me it will always be the Leafs. Living in Toronto and having most of my friends be Leaf fans will make it always be them. I hate them with the passion of 1000 ******.

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Nordiques and its not even close...

Now there is no team i hate more than the Leafs....but its hard to say since they haven't met each other in the playoffs in what 40+ years

I'm actually not even sure i would put Boston 3rd...that actually might go to Ottawa but its hard to do that since they have never faced montreal in the playoffs

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(1) Habs-Leafs rivalry is blatantly overrated. It's a fan thing, not a team thing. We haven't played you guys in the playoffs during my lifetime. ...
I have and it wasnt much to write home about. Bruins and Nords were a much bigger rivalry.

I mean just remember the year Dryden came up and we beat the Bruins? History was made then!

Or the New years day game against the Nordiques? That was also history, and Cote's goal wasnt good btw.


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(3) I don't know if any rivalry nowadays can compare to the sheer viciousness and awesomeness of Habs-Nords. The entire province of Quebec was a war zone when those two played. Games were bloody, the fans were nasty and the culture wars were riding high.

As an Ex-Nords fan, I miss those days a lot. There was nothing quite like Habs-Nords...there just wasn't. And due to the change in game style and team locations, I'm not sure we'll ever see it again.
I'm not sure it is possible to create a rivalry like that anymore. I don't know much about the rivalries in soccer or over seas, but to the best of my knoledge, the Habs-Nords rivalry is something that is still unparallelled in sports across America today; nothing comes close.

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Nordiques and its not even close...

Now there is no team i hate more than the Leafs....but its hard to say since they haven't met each other in the playoffs in what 40+ years

I'm actually not even sure i would put Boston 3rd...that actually might go to Ottawa but its hard to do that since they have never faced montreal in the playoffs
Those Habs-Nords series' were special.

I don't know if there was a single sporting rivalry in North America that was more significant to the locals than that one. Habs-Nords...was everything. It went WAY, WAY beyond hockey. I know that Toronto-Montreal had a strongly cultural/language component to the rivalry in the past, but IMO not as much any more as both cities and fanbases are now so incredibly diverse/cosmopolitan.

As for Leafs...if I remember correctly, we last played you guys in the playoffs in 1979, I think. So if the Leafs-Habs don't play in the playoffs next year, it's a full 30 years without a single Leafs-Habs playoff game.

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I'm not sure it is possible to create a rivalry like that anymore. I don't know much about the rivalries in soccer or over seas, but to the best of my knoledge, the Habs-Nords rivalry is something that is still unparallelled in sports across America today; nothing comes close.
Yep. Nothing like it in NA, and I think it's gone for good.

Even if QC gets a team back, due to the changes in the game itself, it won't be as nasty as it once was, IMO.

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So if the Leafs-Habs don't play in the playoffs next year, it's a full 30 years without a single Leafs-Habs playoff game.
And it will also be close to 42 years without a Cup for the Leafs...

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And it will also be close to 42 years without a Cup for the Leafs...


I was a little bit too young to fully comprehend the Habs-Nords fued, and right when i was getting into hockey the rivalry wasn't nearly as intense as it was in the 80s.

I hate the Leafs the most, just because I currently reside in Ontario and had to socialise with so many of their obnoxious fans. But hands down the Habs-Bruins rivalry is the best one i've ever experienced.

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If I may offer my opinion:

(1) Habs-Leafs rivalry is blatantly overrated. It's a fan thing, not a team thing. We haven't played you guys in the playoffs during my lifetime. The teams haven't been big rivals in years, IMO. It's really just because it's the two biggest fanbases and most historical teams in Canada's two biggest cities...but the real essence of the rivalry hasn't been there in a long while.

(2) Even though it's usually one-sided, the Habs-Bruins rivalry is by far the most intense one on HF, and unlike Leafs-Habs, MTL and BOS have actually played each other in the playoffs many times in the past few decades.

(3) I don't know if any rivalry nowadays can compare to the sheer viciousness and awesomeness of Habs-Nords. The entire province of Quebec was a war zone when those two played. Games were bloody, the fans were nasty and the culture wars were riding high.

As an Ex-Nords fan, I miss those days a lot. There was nothing quite like Habs-Nords...there just wasn't. And due to the change in game style and team locations, I'm not sure we'll ever see it again.
exactly what he said. save for the Ex-Nords fan...

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Yep. Nothing like it in NA, and I think it's gone for good.

Even if QC gets a team back, due to the changes in the game itself, it won't be as nasty as it once was, IMO.
one thing that was interesting about the Nords-Habs feud though that Michel Bergeron mentionned recently is that they both wanted to get some (if not all) the best french canadian players for their respective teams, so it also created a rivalry in the front offices.

in the end, in the province, as soon as you got out of Montréal, the first question you would ask a new acquaintance that was a 14-48 year old would be: So you like the Nords or the Habs?

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one thing that was interesting about the Nords-Habs feud though that Michel Bergeron mentionned recently is that they both wanted to get some (if not all) the best french canadian players for their respective teams, so it also created a rivalry in the front offices.

in the end, in the province, as soon as you got out of Montréal, the first question you would ask a new acquaintance that was a 14-48 year old would be: So you like the Nords or the Habs?
Yeah he said that on 110 earlier on in the week...

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And it will also be close to 42 years without a Cup for the Leafs...
EDIT: Not worth it in the first place, no need for me to waste an explanation.


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Yeah he said that on 110 earlier on in the week...
it kinda struck me though. never thought about it this way, but it played a huge factor in Nords-Habs games.

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I'm not sure it is possible to create a rivalry like that anymore. I don't know much about the rivalries in soccer or over seas, but to the best of my knoledge, the Habs-Nords rivalry is something that is still unparallelled in sports across America today; nothing comes close.
rangers fan here, and while i won't try to say its the same thing, as i have zero idea what the habs-nords rivalry was like since i live in new york, but rangers-devils/rangers-isles are pretty intense rivalries (especially when the three of them dont suck). geographically speaking they are all on each other's doorstep more or less, and as the multitude of new jersey jokes that exist will attest to, theres a pretty intense inter-state rivalry between new york-new jersey and with respect to rangers-isles, theres that whole city vs. suburb dynamic as well (not to mention some heated playoff series) that created a rivalry. just my .02

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Being from Toronto for me its the Leafs.

If we played them in the playoffs my brain would explode.

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rangers fan here, and while i won't try to say its the same thing, as i have zero idea what the habs-nords rivalry was like since i live in new york, but rangers-devils/rangers-isles are pretty intense rivalries (especially when the three of them dont suck). geographically speaking they are all on each other's doorstep more or less, and as the multitude of new jersey jokes that exist will attest to, theres a pretty intense inter-state rivalry between new york-new jersey and with respect to rangers-isles, theres that whole city vs. suburb dynamic as well (not to mention some heated playoff series) that created a rivalry. just my .02
That's pretty much what we have going with Leafs fans and what Sens fans think they have going with us. It's not so much a city-suburbs dynamic as opposed to a your-city-sucks-balls-and-I'm-better-than-you dynamic. The Habs-Nords thing was different... it was actually a little scary. Like, sleep with one eye open scary.

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Nordiques by far. It was more than two teams, it was a language and highway 20 battle. Plus, Quebec city people always kinda feel "inferior" than their bigger city cousins.

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That's pretty much what we have going with Leafs fans and what Sens fans think they have going with us. It's not so much a city-suburbs dynamic as opposed to a your-city-sucks-balls-and-I'm-better-than-you dynamic. The Habs-Nords thing was different... it was actually a little scary. Like, sleep with one eye open scary.
with the Nords_Montreal, you had the big scary city vs. smaller more convivial city rivalry.

you also had the fact that Québec is much more francophone so you'd hear that the Nords were a team that represented the real francophone people as the habs had also a lot of anglophone fans... Let alone the name "Canadiens". I mean, it was just a crazy riot to hear all the fans scream at each other everywhere.

hell, you even had the competing beers being partners with each team. Molson for the Habs, O'Keefe for the Nords. I swear to God I've seen a lot of people refusing to drink one or the other because they hated the other team so much.

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