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09-16-2008, 01:02 PM
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No one is assuming that but you. In fact there's like 3 posts in here about St. Louis.

Anyhow, what the Habs lack in elite prospects they make up for in sheer depth of promising players under 23.
It seems to me that the Habs could use an infusion of elite prospects, especially at centre. Think for a moment about the ages of Koivu and Lang. Chipchura and Maxwell may make the team some day but neither is likely to compete with the best on other teams. If you're putting prospects and NHL players into separate baskets, then the Habs have only Price, S. Kostitsyn, and Latendresse in the category of promising player under 23, and none is a centre. To summarize, the depth alone doesn't reassure me about the future. They can't all play at once in Montréal (except in a rookie camp).

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It seems to me that the Habs could use an infusion of elite prospects, especially at centre. Think for a moment about the ages of Koivu and Lang. Chipchura and Maxwell may make the team some day but neither is likely to compete with the best on other teams. If you're putting prospects and NHL players into separate baskets, then the Habs have only Price, S. Kostitsyn, and Latendresse in the category of promising player under 23, and none is a centre. To summarize, the depth alone doesn't reassure me about the future. They can't all play at once in Montréal (except in a rookie camp).
That kind of infusion is more likely when you finish in the bottom of the standings.

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Darn, I wish they open the practice to the public ... I need my Habs-report-news fix dearly ...

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That kind of infusion is more likely when you finish in the bottom of the standings.
There is still a way, if that position is a need like d-men was for the 3 years, to concentrate on those guys and pick them a little later. Not saying they'll turn into all-stars but most likely will or already are important pieces of their NHL team depth chart or NHL team:

2008:
Colborne/Gustafsson/Eberle/Trivino/O'Dell.....

2007:
Nash/Backlund/Perron

2006:
Lewis/Berglund/Matthias/Anisimov

2005:
Hanzal/Oshie/Cogliano/Stastny

2004:
Zajac

2003:
Getzlaf/Kesler/Richards

All of those guys were picked 15th or lower. And I understand that the 2006 to 2008 picks have still a way to go. Again, I'm not even suggesting that all of those guys are in the same all-star category. Chances are though, besides Maxwell, they all would be either ahead of him or for a few just #2 in the depth chart as far as centermen are concerned giving us the wanted depth we loved so much on D and now that we would need on C.

I do agree that you do get the real superstars within the first picks. Still, there are proofs that you can get something significant a little later.

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DAY 2 AT CAMP VIDEO:

AGAIN, REDUCE YOUR VOLUME BEFORE OPENING!

http://www.rds.ca/video/visionneuse.html?video=14308

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09-16-2008, 03:52 PM
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Thanks for the link. Subban, Maxwell, Kriso. A tantalizing glimpse of Valentanko. Wasn't sure who everyone was.

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It seems to me that the Habs could use an infusion of elite prospects, especially at centre. Think for a moment about the ages of Koivu and Lang. Chipchura and Maxwell may make the team some day but neither is likely to compete with the best on other teams. If you're putting prospects and NHL players into separate baskets, then the Habs have only Price, S. Kostitsyn, and Latendresse in the category of promising player under 23, and none is a centre. To summarize, the depth alone doesn't reassure me about the future. They can't all play at once in Montréal (except in a rookie camp).
The Habs have great complimentary players coming down the pipeline. It's also been shown before that players can sometimes far exceed their expectations. So, by having a great number of solid prospects, a team increases it's chances of having a player truly break out as a star in this league.

Examples of players in this league that came out of nowhere:

Zetterberg & Datsyuk
Martin StLouis
Jarome Iginla(drafted high but never expected to be this good)
Brad Richards
and the list goes on...

I'm not saying we have anyone of this calibre, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
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more video , turn up your volume

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z45n...eature=related

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guys, do you know if the rookie training camp will actually play games.. i see the sens and leafs rookie did play some games.. but havent heard anything about the habs.. i think it would be dumb not to be part of a competetiton like that..

maybe i missed the boat can someone confirm?

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montreal is longer part of the rookie tournament.
They used to be with Ottawa, Toronto and Florida.

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You missed the boat

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Thanks for the link. Subban, Maxwell, Kriso. A tantalizing glimpse of Valentanko. Wasn't sure who everyone was.
The other guy that we see is Monahan who seem to strugle a little bit.

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The other guy that we see is Monahan who seem to strugle a little bit.
Monahan is an invitee.
He's still young too. I dont expect him to steal the show at the NHL level.
He does very well for himself when playing in the Q.

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I know what he did in the Q because i live in Victoriaville and I saw him play a couple time. Score a lot last year but wasn't impressive.

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I've heard a few different reports saying Kristo is impressive....Jean Perron last night said he was amazed by this kid.

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I know what he did in the Q because i live in Victoriaville and I saw him play a couple time. Score a lot last year but wasn't impressive.
i was impressed with him last year.
I saw him play ALOT.

One of my best friends played with him last year (Steven Cacciotti)

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guys, do you know if the rookie training camp will actually play games.. i see the sens and leafs rookie did play some games.. but havent heard anything about the habs.. i think it would be dumb not to be part of a competetiton like that..

maybe i missed the boat can someone confirm?
The team chose to focus on working with the players. Having practices that target specific things. It's the focus on developping the players and it's been working pretty darn good since they stopped going at those rookie tournaments. That was more candy for us but not necessarily a better thing.

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Nice Valentenko profile on CTV tonight. His english is quite for good for being here for only one year.

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Nice Valentenko profile on CTV tonight. His english is quite for good for being here for only one year.
spoke about him on RDS.ca as well.
Don Lever said he has worked alot on his english and it helps alot to understand the systems.

I wont be surprised to see him get a few games in the NHL this year.

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09-16-2008, 05:57 PM
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"Pavel has some development left, but I really think he'll see some (NHL) games this year," said Timmins. "It's up to him to have a good camp."

http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...6qcZmhLsURYTbg

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Anyone got any word on what time the main camp starts on saturdau at Pierrefonds.

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At the start of the year, i want Valentenko more than O'Byrne with the big club. PLus, Valentenko could play on the PP unit because he have a canon of a shot!

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At the start of the year, i want Valentenko more than O'Byrne with the big club. PLus, Valentenko could play on the PP unit because he have a canon of a shot!


He had one goal in the AHL last year.

I want to see Valentenko up for a few games this year in the NHL but i'm really excited to see O'Byrne this year as I thought he played well last year and if he can keep throwing his weight around he's only going to get better.

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