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09-15-2008, 05:15 PM
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Kaberle for a young forward

In my opinion Kaberle is not happy with the Leafs right now. They have got rid of his best friends McCabe, Sundin, and Tucker. He has been asked to be traded and he has refused, but if he was asked again would he go?

I would think if the Leafs are going to trade him they would want a young good centre in return.

So who could fill this need for the leafs?

I just really wish that he accepted a trade at the deadline for Carter and a 1st because i would love to have carter now.

So who could it be?

Weiss?
Dubinsky?
O'Sullivan?
Koivu?
Bouchard?

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09-15-2008, 05:16 PM
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why did you list Dubinsky, Bouchard, and Koivu?

Rangers and Minnesota dont need defensman. especially the rangers who just signed Redden and re-signed Rozsival to big contracts.

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09-15-2008, 05:20 PM
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Sorry brosif but i wasn't thinking about what teams needed d, i was just thinking about the good young centres that could be used to get kaberle

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I wasnt aware that the leafs "got rid of sundin"... if anything , sundin got rid of the leafs so far

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If the McCabe trade is an indication of what returns Fletcher is getting right now, then Kaberle should NOT be traded until the new GM is in place. imo Not under any circumstances should he be allowed to make another move.

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Not sure what has changed in Leaf land that would cause Kaberle to reconsider not waiving. Leafs were among the worst teams in the league at the deadline last year when TK wouldn't waive for a trade to PHI, a team in the play-off picture.

I don't think that any of the guys you mentioned would be available. FLA, NYR & MINN are definetely light on the offense, so that reduces their desire to move a young center. O'Sullivan might not be a bad call, but I think he's more of a winger now than center, and it's tough to say what the Kings are thinking..

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Kaberle's contract is a steal whereas McCabe's is something of an albatross - the type of return each player would garner is totally different, even if you think their on-ice contributions to their teams are comparable.

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why did you list Dubinsky, Bouchard, and Koivu?

Rangers and Minnesota dont need defensman. especially the rangers who just signed Redden and re-signed Rozsival to big contracts.
If we can move Dubinsky and some salary to get Kaberle, you have to do it.

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If you can move Kaberle at the deadline or before even if you get the right offer you do it. He'll get a great return if he ever waives his NTC.

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Kaberle's contract is a steal whereas McCabe's is something of an albatross - the type of return each player would garner is totally different, even if you think their on-ice contributions to their teams are comparable.
Just FYI - but McCabe will actually get paid less than Kaberle over the next 3 years, so for the teams not at the salary cap (many of them), McCabe's contract is actually MORE affordable than Kaberle. But I do get your point - Kaberle does have a great contract.

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Kaberle to Dallas for Brunnstrom


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IMO Dubinsky is a 2nd line center, The leafs already have plenty of those so I cant see them going after him at all lol

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Kings aren't trading O'Sullivan unless they get young player(s) in return.

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Kings aren't trading O'Sullivan unless they get young player(s) in return.
u wouldnt trade O'sullivan str8 up for Kaberle?


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u wouldnt trade O'sullivan str8 up for Kaberle?
The value may be ok, but Kaberle's age (30) isn't what the Kings are looking for if they are going to move a good young forward.

The Kings are in the market for a veteran defenseman, but not at the expense of one of their young guns. Now if there are any top 4 defensemen out there on the market that are age 26 or younger, I think Lombardi would listen.

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The value may be ok, but Kaberle's age (30) isn't what the Kings are looking for if they are going to move a good young forward.

The Kings are in the market for a veteran defenseman, but not at the expense of one of their young guns. Now if there are any top 4 defensemen out there on the market that are age 26 or younger, I think Lombardi would listen.
You're the kings fan so you obviously know more about their interests than I do but you have to admit they could use a veteran presence on the blue line. They've got 3-4 great d prospects that could all end up being top 3 defensemen on any team, but what they lack is experience. Do you honestly want to have to count on Preissing for that? With Lubo and Blake gone they don't have much to rely on. Kaberle is a #1 defenseman so if Lombardi somehow had a deal like that on the table he should take it and run.

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Leafs should make an offer sheet then work a deal for O'Sullivan,he will light it up in T.O.

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The value may be ok, but Kaberle's age (30) isn't what the Kings are looking for if they are going to move a good young forward.

The Kings are in the market for a veteran defenseman, but not at the expense of one of their young guns. Now if there are any top 4 defensemen out there on the market that are age 26 or younger, I think Lombardi would listen.
I wouldnt trade Kaberle straight up for 0'sullivan,i think the leafs could do better that.

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The leafs should go after O'Sullivan, but definately not through a offer sheet. In my opinion the leafs would have to offer atleast 5 million for LA not to match, and then if they offer 5 million then they would have to give up their 1st and Lombardi would take our first and run, he would know that O'Sullivan would not put us out of the bottom 5, so he could have 2 top 5 picks. Hedman and Schenn??????!!??!?!

I would think that a Kaberle for O'Sullivan would be great for both teams. I can see that LA fans feel that Kaberle is too old, but honestly LA is going to be a great team in a couple years and Kaberle will still be the great player he is now, he would be a great mentor for their young defenseman.

He will most likely be a number 1 defenseman for the next 5 years.

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You're the kings fan so you obviously know more about their interests than I do but you have to admit they could use a veteran presence on the blue line. They've got 3-4 great d prospects that could all end up being top 3 defensemen on any team, but what they lack is experience. Do you honestly want to have to count on Preissing for that? With Lubo and Blake gone they don't have much to rely on. Kaberle is a #1 defenseman so if Lombardi somehow had a deal like that on the table he should take it and run.
No doubt the Kings could use some experience on the blue line, but I think they are looking for a short term solution. That would be an older defenseman with a one year contract that can be moved at the trade deadline.

Now if Florida ever called Lombardi about a Bouwmeester trade, I'm pretty sure Lombardi would be willing to part with O'Sullivan plus some other assets to make that deal.

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u wouldnt trade O'sullivan str8 up for Kaberle?
No, they traded Lubo for a reason.

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If the McCabe trade is an indication of what returns Fletcher is getting right now, then Kaberle should NOT be traded until the new GM is in place. imo Not under any circumstances should he be allowed to make another move.
He had a pretty awesome deal centered around Carter + 1st for Kaberle before Kaberle blocked it.

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No, they traded Lubo for a reason.
whos Lubu?

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09-15-2008, 07:58 PM
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Man your really must be a troll jeffleafsfan, no wonder you don't show your face in the leafs forum. If you can read which apparently you can't, Kaberle didn't asked to get traded but he wasn't happy that his friends are gone. He said he'll think about moving on depending on what happens during the season.

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