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09-14-2008, 09:35 PM
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Team Needs, tradeable assets, and don't needs...

After seeing a bazillion different Gaborik trade threads with very few getting right what Minnesota needs and just dumping whatever sounds right on them, I got to ask, what does every team need or don't need? What can they give up without hurting the team?

For Minnesota:

Needs:

1/ Wingers - Preferably ones that can score. Right now Minnesota has one proven sniper in Gaborik and the rest a bunch of maybes and predictions. If Gaborik is traded, more than likely a winger will have to come back.

2/ Draft Picks/Youth- If Gaborik leaves, that will signal that the Wild are going through a rebuild not a retooling. Right now we already lost our 2nd and 3rd round draft picks this year and after a horrible 2004 and a shaky 2005 draft, Minnesota needs to restock and retool their prospect department. With Gillies, Pouliot and possibly Clutterbuck graduating that leaves Minnesota's prospect department thin on NHL ready players with only Kalus as the only call up. Madsen needs to start producing and fast. Locke also will need to adjust to the new system and fast. Olvecky, Irmen, and Stoner will all be playing for a contract this year.

3/ AHL/NHL Defenseman - Wild could stand to use a developing defenseman. With Stoner up in the air and having sustained constant injuries through his career, the Wild might be pressed into bringing in Falk or Cuma early next year to replace Skoula, Bergeron, Foster or Reitz, which might not be a good thing. We could stand to use a developing defenseman. One not ready for an NHL spot yet but soon.

What We Don't Need:

1/ NHL Defensemen - Minnesota doesn't need an NHL defenseman. With a top four consisting of Johnsson, Burns, Schultz and Zidlicky the Wild have a solid top 4. With Skoula as their 5th and Reitz/Bergeron as their 6th, Minnesota has a fairly solid group of defensemen. I don't see them adding another, especially an overpriced one if they trade Gaborik.

2/ Centers - The Wild are committed to their young guns in Sheppard, Pouliot, and Koivu. They also have a floater in Belanger, who can play on any line. Right now they want to see how Pouliot works out and won't bring in a center that will displace Pouliot. A center next year might be brought in if Pouliot busts or to replace Belanger but not this year.

3/ Veterans - This team is committed to their youth and bringing in an older guy like Saku Koivu simply doesn't make any sense for this team.

Tradeable Assets

1/ Niklas Backstrom - There is debate over whether or not Harding is ready but the Wild might be forced to move Backstrom if they can't get him under an extension by the deadline. It would be foolish for Minnesota to let him walk for nothing. Any team looking for a goaltender at the deadline might be comfortable grabbing Backstrom, who while didn't have a bad year last year, didn't repeat his stellar rookie season. He is still a solid goaltender for a 'cheap' price.

2/ Veterans - Owen Nolan, Kim Johnsson, Eric Belanger, Martin Skoula could all be moved at the deadline (in which case Skoula, Johnsson could bring in an NHL defenseman) for youth or low draft picks if the Wild are close to not running for the playoffs.

3/ Marian Gaborik - If he isn't signed by the deadline, he will definitely be moved by the Wild.

4/ Grinders - Do I need to say more? Wild are stocked with these guys.


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09-14-2008, 09:43 PM
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Needs: puck moving defenseman and an established #1 goaltender

What we don't need: another ****in 4th liner or a depth player

Tradeable assets: Schubert, Vermette (maybe), Zubov, Henessey, SJ's 1st

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Minny's greatest need is very simple.

They need to find a way to keep Marian Gaborik. I don't care what the haul is, it's just not the same.

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How is Nicklas Backstrom one of Minnesota's tradable assets when he plays for the Capitals?

But seriously...

For Washington:
Team Needs:
For now, probably just another good shutdown Dman, somebody with a bit of snarl.
Maybe another scoring winger, although it looks like there should be kids ready to step up for that role.
More cap space.

Don't Need:
We're pretty set at center for now, the prospect pool is very deep (especially in goal), and most of the roster is set now.
Definitely don't need any more checking line players.
Don't need any almost-ready-to-make-the-jump prospects.

Tradeable Assets:
If the return is huge, maybe Semin (but it'd have to be crazy, as for now his contract is amazing value). He may be tough to keep in 2 years, so if the right deal comes along before then who knows what might happen.
Kozlov, if some other things fall into place.
Realistically, Morrisonn might be as well (assuming the spot would be upgraded in the trade) because his long term position here isn't solid.
Fehr, or Fleischmann, or Boyd Gordon (some borderline guys that might not have room here right now).
Maybe one of the young goalies (not Varlamov, but if the deal was good maybe Machesney or Neuvirth?), although it'd hurt to part with any of them before one of them steps up and takes a solid hold on the "goalie of the future" position.
Other various prospects/borderline guys (maybe Mathieu Perrault, maybe Chris Bourque if there's any interest, etc.)
Draft picks.


EDIT to add: Brashear is probably also an asset that could be had, although I don't know if the team would be too keen on parting with him.


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Toronto...

Needs:
-Youth. More specifically, young, top 6 forwards.
-Draft Picks

Not Needs:
-Dead weight like Blake and Poni, who are capable, but not in the Leafs plans
-Long-term contracts

Tradeable Assets:
-Antropov
-Ponikarovsky (he's somewhat of an asset lol)
-Kaberle (around the deadline, where his impending waiver of his NTC is all but guaranteed)
-Toskala (though I doubt he's moved until 2010 deadline with impending UFA)

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For Nashville:

Needs - Top six winger, playmaking 3rd line center, decent winger prospects.
Non-Needs - Defensemen of any sort, goaltenders of any sort, checkers/griniders of any sort, center prospects.
Assets: Minnesota's 2nd, Ottawa's 3rd, NY Rangers' 4th, Toronto's 4th, Carolina's 5th, Cal O'Reilly, Kevin Klein, Greg De Vries, Vernon Fiddler, possibly Jeremy Smith in the right trade.

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Need: Shutdown Dman, Enforcer or a tough capable 4th line Vet.

Dont Need: Small Forwards and Puck Moving Dmen

Assets: Roloson/Deslauriers, Smid, ????

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Need: Second line centre

Tradeable assets: Bieksa, Krajicek, Pyatt, Pettinger, picks that aren't 1st rounders, Raymond, Cowan

Don't need: Grinders, defensemen, and prospects and picks for an important roster player.

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Needs:

Defensive depth: A few holes from the Jokinen trade were filled through Free Agency, but the defense is still a good defenseman or two away for being truly solid.

A young top pairing defenseman: Someone who is young enough to fit with the core (Mueller ,Hanzal, Boedker, Turris, Michalek) and anchor the defense after Jovo is gone.

Wingers: Both filling a fairly weak left wing and some solid checking/PK wingers.

Don't Needs:

Forward prospects: The forward ranks are generally pretty full unless they fit under the need above.

Centers: The team is set with Jokinen-Turris-Hanzal down the middle for at least the next two years, with Winnik and Porter ready to contribute no thanks to more centers.

Tradeable assets:

Steven Reinprecht, Mid to late round picks (The first rounder is generally untouchable), forward prospects.

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Carolina:

Team Needs:
- Top 4 defenseman
- An enforcer that can actually skate
- forward prospect for AHL scoring depth


Don't Need:
- #5/6 type defensemen
- Scoring line forwards

Trade Assets:
- Frantisek Kaberle, possibly Dennis Seidenberg, possibly Chad LaRose, possibly Ray Whitney if Bowman has an exceptional camp.

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Needs:

-another top 6 forward. Preferably a center, but if not, a RW. Must be capable of 20+ goals. Salary not really an issue as long as Sundin is out of the picture.

-puck moving d-man. This is something Gillis has said he is looking to add. My guess is because he is considering moving one of the Canucks' d-men and acquiring a solid puck mover, preferably a player who can also somewhat QB the PP, would help ease the blow.

Do not need:

-Goaltending
-more playmakers up front
-defensemen, unless the price is right

Tradeable assets:

-one d-men(most likely one of Kevin Bieksa, Alex Edler or Lukas Krajicek)
-picks/prospects(excluding Cody Hodgson)
-Taylor Pyatt, Matt Pettinger, Jeff Cowan(anyone?), possibly Mason Raymond if part of a package for a young, proven top 6 forward.
-capspace. The Canucks have just under $10M in cap space and are apparently looking for a salary dump that makes sense to take on(ie: not an older player on a long term deal).

Just to give outsiders an idea, here are what the Canucks' lines would likely look like right now:

D.Sedin-H.Sedin-Bernier
Raymond-Wellwood-Demitra
Burrows-Kesler-Pyatt
Hordichuk/Cowan-Johnson-Pettinger

Ohlund-Edler
Mitchell-Bieksa
Krajicek-Salo
Davison

The 2nd line center spot is the biggest question mark at this point, and if Wellwood falls on his face in camp and Hodgson doesn't crack the roster(although he's gotten rave reviews from Vigneault so far), they may move Demitra to center and bump Pyatt up to the 2nd line for the time being. Jannik Hansen is knocking at the door and looks to be ready for a top 9 role this season so he would line up on the 3rd with Burrows and Kesler.

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Carolina:

Team Needs:
- Top 4 defenseman

Trade Assets:
- Frantisek Kaberle, possibly Dennis Seidenberg, possibly Chad LaRose, possibly Ray Whitney if Bowman has an exceptional camp.
Sami Salo for Ray Whitney? Although Salo has a NTC and there are no guarantees he'd waive it. Is Whitney proficient at RW or is he mainly a LW'er?

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Needs: Wingers
Dont Need: Centers or Defensman
Assets: Prucha?

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Oilers:

Need: Shutdown Dman, Enforcer or a tough capable 4th line Vet.

Dont Need: Small Forwards and Puck Moving Dmen

Assets: Roloson/Deslauriers, Smid, ????
Matt Kassian?

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Needs: Top 6 forwards. Namely on left wing, although we could use a center as well. We could also use a third line RW and another goalie prospect (although less so now that we have Niemi).

Don't need: Defensemen. Please, folks, STOP trying to trade us your mediocre ones.

Assets: Defensive depth. Wisniewski (currently hurt) and Barker are probably the most likely to be moved. We also have pretty good prospect depth at forward.

Above all, we need quality, not quantity. So no, we do not want to trade Brent Seabrook/Duncan Keith for [3rd liner], [second tier prospect], [6th defenseman] and [draft pick].

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Sami Salo for Ray Whitney? Although Salo has a NTC and there are no guarantees he'd waive it. Is Whitney proficient at RW or is he mainly a LW'er?
he's been a LW all 3 years here.

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For Ottawa:

Needs: Second line RW, puck moving/ offensive defencman, number one goaltender.

Don't Needs: Centers, #3-6 defencman, 3rd/4th liners.

Assets: Draft picks/ prospects. (Zubov, Winchester, Henessey, Elliot) Vermette only if a number 1/2 defencman or good goalie is returned. Neil is also disposable.

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he's been a LW all 3 years here.
Hmm, I take that offer back then.

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Needs

Top 6 talent, preferably young

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Defence or Goaltending

assets -

Blake, Bell, Van Ryn, basically vets with long and short term contracts.

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Needs: Wingers
Dont Need: Centers or Defensman
Assets: Prucha?
allow me to elaborate:

needs: top-2-line wingers, big physical defenseman

don't need: centers, puck-moving defensemen, 3rd and 4th liners

assets: depth forwards like prucha, moore, sjostrom etc.

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Needs: Top 6 forwards. Namely on left wing, although we could use a center as well. We could also use a third line RW and another goalie prospect (although less so now that we have Niemi).

Don't need: Defensemen. Please, folks, STOP trying to trade us your mediocre ones.

Assets: Defensive depth. Wisniewski (currently hurt) and Barker are probably the most likely to be moved. We also have pretty good prospect depth at forward.

Above all, we need quality, not quantity. So no, we do not want to trade Brent Seabrook/Duncan Keith for [3rd liner], [second tier prospect], [6th defenseman] and [draft pick].
Higgins and Maxwell for Beach and Aliu?

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Canucks Needs: A tough 2nd line Center who can pot 25 goals.

Tradeable Players: Bieksa, Krajikek, White, Pyatt, Pettinger, Cowan, Schneider, Grabner(maybe).

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Needs: Top pairing dman, forward prospects and draft picks
Dont need: depth forwards, dmen (apart from top pairing/number 1 dmen), goalies, goalie prospects.

Assets: J.Jokinen, Ouellet, Tarnasky are pretty much available in any deal.

If it was a deal for a top pairing/number 1 dman then a young dman could be part of the deal those most likely to be part of it would be Lundin, Rogers or Smaby there is also Mihalik and Wishart but I highly doubt those two are traded. Also Helenius might be available soon, dependent upon the play of Smith and Ramo.

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Needs: top-four defensive defenseman (ex. Jay McKee) and a young goalie (ex. Halak)

Assets: Schremp, Pouliot, Jacques, Staios, Roloson

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