How does that help the Blues. If Kitchen was going to have an effect he wouild, and the only other big name coach out there for sale is...Keenan...All this is is a slap in the teams face really. YOu aren't god enough so we fired yur coach. When they are teetering n the line f making the playoffs do you want to really break the teams confidence? Well, Laurie just did. Pleau supported Q so I see Pleau leaving soon as well.
I Hate the Lauries, all they want is a basketball team. I bet yaa we see TK go and Prongs and Pavs and all the other great but expensive players so Laurie can have his basketball team.
How does that help the Blues. If Kitchen was going to have an effect he wouild, and the only other big name coach out there for sale is...Keenan...All this is is a slap in the teams face really. YOu aren't god enough so we fired yur coach. When they are teetering n the line f making the playoffs do you want to really break the teams confidence? Well, Laurie just did. Pleau supported Q so I see Pleau leaving soon as well.
I Hate the Lauries, all they want is a basketball team. I bet yaa we see TK go and Prongs and Pavs and all the other great but expensive players so Laurie can have his basketball team.
First of all, Laurie has invested in this team for 3 years, and has gotten crap for it. It's the subjects using, or should I say misusing his resources that have done this team in, most noticeably Pleasu and his dealings. And besides, if Laurie wants a Basketball team, he won't make that much money off it. St. Louis is not a 4 sport market, simply too small of a city to support a 4th major franchise. At least Q is done, that's a step in the right direction.
How does that help the Blues. If Kitchen was going to have an effect he wouild, and the only other big name coach out there for sale is...Keenan...All this is is a slap in the teams face really. YOu aren't god enough so we fired yur coach. When they are teetering n the line f making the playoffs do you want to really break the teams confidence? Well, Laurie just did. Pleau supported Q so I see Pleau leaving soon as well.
I Hate the Lauries, all they want is a basketball team. I bet yaa we see TK go and Prongs and Pavs and all the other great but expensive players so Laurie can have his basketball team.
I would have to agree with you. I would have set Pleau free well before Q. I also would deal Tkachuk at this point as well as Demitra. Here is why, there aren't any solid coaching replacements out there that are any better than Q were for a start. Nolan, Keenan? I wouldn't think them any better. Nolan might be a nice change but not better.
The timing makes me wonder if maybe they will pick up Francis straight away. I know probably not but a thought.
To why I would move them lot is that with the coming CBA and thier contracts this might be the last chance you have of moving them for close to top return. Tkachuk and or PD would net you some solid return and there are a couple of contenders who would dish out to land them. Put Tkachuk in Philly and you are on a winner. Put him in TB and the same could be said. Send PD to the Sens and you have another ridiculous line to win with. Same about the Sens and Tkachuk. He would transform them from serious shot to close to a lock I reckon. I also feel that the Devils would run after him as well. They actually have the payroll to do it as well.
You land back for either of both of those two some seriously good young talent and picks. DW and Pronger will be the stalwarts to keep your team at the ready and you have some great young players already. The Sens could return you two or three great young players and a pick for KT. Demitra won't yeild as much but still would get you loads more talent.
If there is a lockout next year your youth develops during it. I am not the most informed on your team so I am totally talking out of my bum and not having a piss at you, just thinking out loud. It must be a sad day for a Blues fan as this can't be a good thing. As I see it anyways.
How does that help the Blues. If Kitchen was going to have an effect he wouild, and the only other big name coach out there for sale is...Keenan...All this is is a slap in the teams face really. YOu aren't god enough so we fired yur coach. When they are teetering n the line f making the playoffs do you want to really break the teams confidence? Well, Laurie just did. Pleau supported Q so I see Pleau leaving soon as well.
I Hate the Lauries, all they want is a basketball team. I bet yaa we see TK go and Prongs and Pavs and all the other great but expensive players so Laurie can have his basketball team.
Bill Laurie didnt buy the blues just to get an NBA team to STL that is just a stupid thing to say.
I would have to agree with you. I would have set Pleau free well before Q. I also would deal Tkachuk at this point as well as Demitra. Here is why, there aren't any solid coaching replacements out there that are any better than Q were for a start. Nolan, Keenan? I wouldn't think them any better. Nolan might be a nice change but not better.
The timing makes me wonder if maybe they will pick up Francis straight away. I know probably not but a thought.
To why I would move them lot is that with the coming CBA and thier contracts this might be the last chance you have of moving them for close to top return. Tkachuk and or PD would net you some solid return and there are a couple of contenders who would dish out to land them. Put Tkachuk in Philly and you are on a winner. Put him in TB and the same could be said. Send PD to the Sens and you have another ridiculous line to win with. Same about the Sens and Tkachuk. He would transform them from serious shot to close to a lock I reckon. I also feel that the Devils would run after him as well. They actually have the payroll to do it as well.
You land back for either of both of those two some seriously good young talent and picks. DW and Pronger will be the stalwarts to keep your team at the ready and you have some great young players already. The Sens could return you two or three great young players and a pick for KT. Demitra won't yeild as much but still would get you loads more talent.
If there is a lockout next year your youth develops during it. I am not the most informed on your team so I am totally talking out of my bum and not having a piss at you, just thinking out loud. It must be a sad day for a Blues fan as this can't be a good thing. As I see it anyways.
Tkachuk has been fine here, I would Move Demitra, or even Weight before I moved him.
I know he pissed everyone off when he was here last time getting rid of everyone and working them like dogs, but you can't argue with results, the team he built was better than any we've had since - at least in my opinion.
Spike's recommendations (worth nothing!):
Blow off this season, hire Keenan as both GM & Coach again, send Pleau to the Ice Cats or trade him to the Rangers for future considerations :p , deal away Demitra for a couple of tough young wingers that can pound ice around the net with Tkachuk, but yet still go back and work the defensive end a bit too to help out Pronger and Jackman next season... Maybe guys like Cheechoo from San Jose or Hartnell from Nashville, not those guys in particular necessarily, just young kids that did reasonably well this year... I'm babbling, I'll shut up now... and you guys certainly have every right to say I'm full of crap and don't know snot about hockey, this is all just my inbred opinion.
True. That said, Demitra would draw a nice return as would weight. Tkachuk would draw a huge return for you. He is a tuff powerforward and every single team that is a contender is looking for one right now. Since the firing of Q seriously limits your shot at the cup this year. Moving TK would get you a grand return. He could on his own fill your roster with two or three solid young players. If the Leafs were willing to move Stajan and Ant and Coca for Gonchar, imagine what TK would net you. Demitra like Satan would bring a nice return Weight might as well but, the demand isn't near as much as TK would be. In fact, I wouldn't even consider Stajan and Ant plus for TK. He would be worth better than that.
Thats what I think anyways. I hate that you lost Q as I feel him to be one of the top three in the game and that you won't find a better replacement. Equal to maybe.
I have no problem with Keenan as coach again, but there's no way I let him near any GM type job at all...
**** NO! Damn blasphemers! Iron Mike hasn't done squat in the last 10 seasons as a coach; why would anyone want him, let alone the Blues? **** that ****.
Seeing what a mess he left behind, as he has done with every organization he's coached, I would think that Keenan would be the last coach that the Blues would look to.
I know he pissed everyone off when he was here last time getting rid of everyone and working them like dogs, but you can't argue with results, the team he built was better than any we've had since - at least in my opinion.
Spike's recommendations (worth nothing!):
Blow off this season, hire Keenan as both GM & Coach again, send Pleau to the Ice Cats or trade him to the Rangers for future considerations :p , deal away Demitra for a couple of tough young wingers that can pound ice around the net with Tkachuk, but yet still go back and work the defensive end a bit too to help out Pronger and Jackman next season... Maybe guys like Cheechoo from San Jose or Hartnell from Nashville, not those guys in particular necessarily, just young kids that did reasonably well this year... I'm babbling, I'll shut up now... and you guys certainly have every right to say I'm full of crap and don't know snot about hockey, this is all just my inbred opinion.
I hope you are being sarcastic with the Keenan thing. If you arent you certainly are full of ****.
**** NO! Damn blasphemers! Iron Mike hasn't done squat in the last 10 seasons as a coach; why would anyone want him, let alone the Blues? **** that ****.
Calm down Lappy, I freaked out when I first saw that but we can take solace in the fact that Keenan will never coach here again. There would be a mass march down to Savvis to burn the ****ing building down if that happened.
True. That said, Demitra would draw a nice return as would weight. Tkachuk would draw a huge return for you. He is a tuff powerforward and every single team that is a contender is looking for one right now. Since the firing of Q seriously limits your shot at the cup this year. Moving TK would get you a grand return. He could on his own fill your roster with two or three solid young players. If the Leafs were willing to move Stajan and Ant and Coca for Gonchar, imagine what TK would net you. Demitra like Satan would bring a nice return Weight might as well but, the demand isn't near as much as TK would be. In fact, I wouldn't even consider Stajan and Ant plus for TK. He would be worth better than that.
Thats what I think anyways. I hate that you lost Q as I feel him to be one of the top three in the game and that you won't find a better replacement. Equal to maybe.
If it was up to me Weight and Demitra would be moved first. I know you are an outsider and I am not trying to rip You But Tkachuk has done nothing but good things for the Blues.
Seeing what a mess he left behind, as he has done with every organization he's coached, I would think that Keenan would be the last coach that the Blues would look to.
Do you guys recommend Quenneville as a good coach for a young team like the Panthers? I'm very intrigued with the idea of hiring him to work with young players like Bouwmeester, Horton, Stewart, ect... he seems like the perfect coach for us and IMO I think Dudley has liked Q's developing program ever since he was an assistant in Colorado.
If it was up to me Weight and Demitra would be moved first. I know you are an outsider and I am not trying to rip You But Tkachuk has done nothing but good things for the Blues.
Calm down Lappy, I freaked out when I first saw that but we can take solace in the fact that Keenan will never coach here again. There would be a mass march down to Savvis to burn the ****ing building down if that happened.
I am calm and was when I typed it. I chose my words very carefully; couldn't you tell?
To suggest Keenan come back to the Blues is like threatening to sodomize somebody's mama with the business end of a rake. It's taboo and rightfully so, which is why I chose profanities in place of my normal type of response.
