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09-28-2008, 12:03 PM
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AS far as the Welly - Grabo comparison, they're both smaller skilled players who are exceptional stick handlers. But, I give the nod to Grabo because of his ability to stickhandle at higher speeds then Wellwood.

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09-28-2008, 12:53 PM
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Grabo's willingness to pay the price in the corners will keep him in the NHL.

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09-28-2008, 01:45 PM
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I think Grabs is becoming more involved and performing better as the preseason is going on.

Him and Kulemin are developing some chemistry together and that might keep the pair of youngsters together when all the dust settles.

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09-28-2008, 02:15 PM
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I think he still has some developing to do in this level. Maybe we will see him really turn into something nice.

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He has some nice potential,i can see Grabovski getting 45 points this year.

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He has some nice potential,i can see Grabovski getting 45 points this year.
Cannot change my opinion after about two weeks 17+39 = 56

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09-29-2008, 10:54 PM
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Is it an insult for Toronto that Grabovski is possibly your first line center, or is it a compliment that the Habs have great depth and that this guy couldn't make the lineup?

Does he deserve the chance, or is it circumstancial (with Sundin and rebuild etc.)

I'm a little annoyed because Montreal media make it sound like Habs are great drafters and that a guy like Grabovski is playing on the first line shows that the Habs are THAT much better.

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09-29-2008, 11:09 PM
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Is it an insult for Toronto that Grabovski is possibly your first line center, or is it a compliment that the Habs have great depth and that this guy couldn't make the lineup?

Does he deserve the chance, or is it circumstancial (with Sundin and rebuild etc.)

I'm a little annoyed because Montreal media make it sound like Habs are great drafters and that a guy like Grabovski is playing on the first line shows that the Habs are THAT much better.
The Habs are far too deep at center to make room for Grabs regardless of how he played. Gainey also already made up his mind about making room for a big centerman after the playoffs were over last season.

Who would Grabs replace?

Montreal already has a boat load of gnome's on the team. One more won't help their cause.

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09-29-2008, 11:12 PM
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i love how after hagman scored today, Grabo just jumped him in celebration

guy has passion, no denying it

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09-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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i love how after hagman scored today, Grabo just jumped him in celebration

guy has passion, no denying it

I actually think Montreal will regret trading him essentially for Lang...

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guy has passion, no denying it
If you ever had watched him play at the Worlds, you would've anticipated that.

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09-30-2008, 02:30 AM
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I actually think Montreal will regret trading him essentially for Lang...
i wouldnt be surprised if he puts up similar numbers to Lang this year...

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09-30-2008, 06:11 AM
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Is it an insult for Toronto that Grabovski is possibly your first line center, or is it a compliment that the Habs have great depth and that this guy couldn't make the lineup?

Does he deserve the chance, or is it circumstancial (with Sundin and rebuild etc.)

I'm a little annoyed because Montreal media make it sound like Habs are great drafters and that a guy like Grabovski is playing on the first line shows that the Habs are THAT much better.
The Montreal media needs to realize how small the difference between 1st in the East and out of the playoffs was. Should Kovalev pull his usual disappearing act, suddenly things aren't so rosy in La Belle Province anymore.

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09-30-2008, 07:43 AM
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The Montreal media needs to realize how small the difference between 1st in the East and out of the playoffs was. Should Kovalev pull his usual disappearing act, suddenly things aren't so rosy in La Belle Province anymore.
Grabovski left the team after a game to talk to his agent 'cause he was unhappy with his situation in Montreal. The guy wanted out and went as far as asking for a trade, or that's the word around.

Nobody denies from the Habsworld that the kid has skills. Mostly if he would be able to become stronger and bigger, you would have an interesting player. What needs to be shown now if his body can sustain an NHL calendar. He's still terrible inconsistent but is a kid and is probably working on this as well. Thing is I don't see him as a centerman, he would be more effective as a winger.

As far as the trade is concerned, well we did have an interesting prospect coming to us as in Greg Pateryn who after watching him at the dev. camp is really interesting to say the least. He wasn't just a throw-in, Pateryn already said that the Habs were interested in him before the draft.

With Lang on board maybe just for one year and Pateryn as a long-term project, that trade could just be a nice one for both teams. A team doesn't necessarily have to look like a fool while the other could have the steal of the century, though it's funnier that way I know.....But trades cannot always look like a Ribeiro for Niinimaa......

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09-30-2008, 07:45 AM
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oh yea, I'd take Grabovski over Wellwood because of attitude, but Wellwood has much more skill, Wellwood makes Grabovski's hands look like cement.
Come on now. I know it's a good thing to stick up for siblings, but you have to give it up, Eric.

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09-30-2008, 07:54 AM
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I've really watched Grabovski and what I have seen so far is:

- fast. good acceleration and speed with the puck
- does not shy away from traffic. he is not a big guy, but he will throw himself into a corner with speed to take a puck from someone and will go to the net/slot in order to create a shot for himself.
- is obviously talented with the pick and wants the puck on his stick
- not sure about his shot yet. speed, accuracy. haven't seen enough either way
- can really pass the puck. sometimes his head is down.
- good balance. can accept passes in awkward spots, can hold it after taking a check.
- needs to shoot more, needs to use his line mates more.

overall, I have been impressed. he has been a bright spot all camp, hopefully there is a high ceiling for him to reach and he keeps getting better every week. Grabovski was too good to sit around Habs land waiting for a top 6 spot to open up, especially when you consider they have many players of a similar skill and size already occupying those spots.

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09-30-2008, 08:04 AM
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I've really watched Grabovski and what I have seen so far is:


- good balance. can accept passes in awkward spots, can hold it after taking a check.


Your being way to generous.

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09-30-2008, 11:02 AM
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Does anybody have any pics of Grabs in a Leaf uniform yet? I want one for an avatar I'm putting together in photoshop. Thanks.

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I think Grabs is becoming more involved and performing better as the preseason is going on.

Him and Kulemin are developing some chemistry together and that might keep the pair of youngsters together when all the dust settles.
I totally agree on both points.

Would also like to add that Grabs going into the corner was a worry for me. After watching him this preseason, he seems to have no problem mucking it up and getting the puck from the corners. He doesn't mind taking a hit to make a play/get the puck, which is nice. He doesn't throw too many checks, but they are there from time to time.

I'm liking the trade more as time goes on. A line with Antropov and Kulemin would make me happy. Steen could also center that line if need be. But the chemistry between Kules and Grabs seemed to be an insta-click.

Grabs still loses the puck way too easily after even the slightest bump.


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09-30-2008, 11:21 AM
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He needs NHL experience, period. It will come. He will become stronger, faster, smarter.

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09-30-2008, 11:40 AM
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Just heard the interview with Jonus Segal (hopefully I got the spelling correct) on Leafs Lunch and Wilson has been very pleased with Grabs overall game.

A few other points he touched on:
  • Grabs and Kulemin live together in a hotel and best friends off ice. They also love playing together.
  • Wilson feels he needs to find that third player to play alongside them.

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09-30-2008, 11:42 AM
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Just heard the interview with Jonus Segal (hopefully I got the spelling correct) on Leafs Lunch and Wilson has been very pleased with Grabs overall game.

A few other points he touched on:
  • Grabs and Kulemin live together in a hotel and best friends off ice. They also love playing together.
  • Wilson feels he needs to find that third player to play alongside them.
I'd keep them with Hagman or I'd even try Tlusty with them aswell.

Anyone with a good set of jets. I don't mind Antropov - Steen - Ponkiarovsky from the early looks of it. They play a strong game down low and can move the puck well.

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09-30-2008, 11:47 AM
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I'd keep them with Hagman or I'd even try Tlusty with them aswell.

Anyone with a good set of jets. I don't mind Antropov - Steen - Ponkiarovsky from the early looks of it. They play a strong game down low and can move the puck well.
I would go for a two way player with size as the third man. Either Antropov, Pony or Hagman. Kulemin and Grabs can do the dance up front while the two way player can become the third man back on the turnover.

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09-30-2008, 11:56 AM
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Kulemin - Grabovski - Hagman.

I love it.


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09-30-2008, 12:05 PM
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As mentioned by Squiffy (I believe) before preseason, KGB!

Kulemin - Grabovski - Hagman.

I love it.
Unless his name is Niklas Bagman and I've been spelling it wrong all this time, I think you're a little mixed up.

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Wellwood had remarkable PP skills- hands, vision, passing touch. Other than that I'd rate Grabovski higher in pretty much every category.

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