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Coach Wars! Rnd 1: Michel Therrien vs Craig MacTavish

View Poll Results: Michel Therrien vs Craig MacTavish
Michel Therrien (PITTSBURGH) 34 35.05%
Craig MacTavish (EDMONTON) 63 64.95%
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09-27-2008, 12:14 AM
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Coach Wars! Rnd 1: Michel Therrien vs Craig MacTavish

Okay folks, this is Coach Wars! the game where coaches war against other coaches in a battle to the death. Winners from each match will carry over into further rounds until the GM (Grand Master) is announced. Each poll will automatically close after 5 days from the post date.

This is the first match of round 1. Brackets are set up randomly, and have nothing to do with the respective team's finish in the standings. I find this spices it up more, and makes some matches more interesting than they would be otherwise. If you have suggestions for a match, feel free to post it.

Feel free to include non-NHL experience in your arguments for a particular coach. This includes minor-league coaching ability, trophies, etc.

Michel Therrien (PITTSBURGH) vs Craig MacTavish (EDMONTON)

A 2007 finalist for the Jack Adams, Therrien led his Penguins to the Stanley Cup finals in 07-08, ultimately losing to Mike Babcock and the Detroit Red Wings. He was responsible for leading the Penguins to a 105 point campaign in 06-07, the fourth largest points turnaround in NHL history.
Previous Season Record: 47-27-8
Total Record: 185-198-22

Craig MacTavish recently lead to the Oilers to a Stanley Cup Finals berth in 2006, ultimately losing to the Carolina Hurricanes. It was the only time an 8th seeded team reached the SCF. He recorded his 200th career win in 2006, as well, defeating the Blues 6-2.
Previous Season Record: 41-35-6
Total Record: 263-264-47

Rnd 1: Claude Julien vs Tony Granato
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Rnd 1: Wayne Gretzky vs Denis Savard


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09-27-2008, 12:33 AM
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Gotta go with MacT..

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MacT. I'm far from a supporter of his but he definitely made some strides last season. I was really liking him at the end of the season when he abandoned his defense first mind set and let the kids showcase their skill every night. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Oilers late season run just happened to be around the same time MacT changed his system.

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gotta go with McT

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I'm lukewarm with Therrien, but I still think the Country Club in Edmonton needs a change and that includes Craig Mactavish; he gets away with being one of the most mediocre coaches in the league.

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How can you argue with Thierrens results?

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09-27-2008, 04:02 PM
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How can you argue with Thierrens results?
This is actually one of the reasons I thought this would be much, much closer. I'm fairly surprised at the results thus far.

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How can you argue with Thierrens results?
Probably because there is a large consensus of people who believe that the Penguins were successful despite Therrien and Not because of him.. Skill alone took them a long way..

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Therrien took a team that was the worst in the league in the middle of the 2005-2006 season, and he immediately instilled a new attitude in the dressing room. He enforced serious discipline, and he made Crosby the assistant captain. Then, Sid took that honor and ran with it. It worked out well.

Took an awful team, and helped them almost win the Cup in just 2.5 years.

Sorry if you see me as a homer for it, but I take Therrien.

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09-28-2008, 12:24 AM
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How can you argue with Thierrens results?
There's very little Thierren has done the last 3 years that MacTavish hasn't. Won the division, I think, being the only feat.

MacTavish outcoached Babcock. He was the reason we got past Detroit in 06. I don't think Pittsburgh can say the same.

That said, I'm biased so I didn't vote.

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There's very little Thierren has done the last 3 years that MacTavish hasn't. Won the division, I think, being the only feat.

MacTavish outcoached Babcock. He was the reason we got past Detroit in 06. I don't think Pittsburgh can say the same.


That said, I'm biased so I didn't vote.
Based on the shot totals during that series, I'd say that Roloson was the reason.

That said, having witnessed Therrien's ineptitude first hand as a Habs fan, I vote for MacTavish.

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Based on the shot totals during that series, I'd say that Roloson was the reason.

That said, having witnessed Therrien's ineptitude first hand as a Habs fan, I vote for MacTavish.
Roli played a big part but the majority of the credit definitely goes to MacTavish in that series.

...and outside of the games that went to OT the Oilers averaged 33.5 shots against and 24.75 for per game. That's not bad. It's too be expected. It was after all the Presidents Trophy winners against the 8th seeded team. In the end MacT and the Oilers won 3 of the 4 games that didn't go to OT.


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Based on the shot totals during that series, I'd say that Roloson was the reason.
No, trust me, it was MacTavish.

Roloson was very good, but 90% of Oiler fans will tell you, MacTavish was the MVP of that series.

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"Obstruction!" Therrien?

I'll take tavish.

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Roli played a big part but the majority of the credit definitely goes to MacTavish in that series.

...and outside of the games that went to OT the Oilers averaged 33.5 shots against and 24.75 for per game. That's not bad. It's too be expected. It was after all the Presidents Trophy winners against the 8th seeded team. In the end MacT and the Oilers won 3 of the 4 games that didn't go to OT.
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No, trust me, it was MacTavish.

Roloson was very good, but 90% of Oiler fans will tell you, MacTavish was the MVP of that series.
I stand corrected, then.

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I wonder how many of the Oilers fans who voted MacT were part of the group who would give their left nut to see him fired in 06-07 or the first half of last season

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I wonder how many of the Oilers fans who voted MacT were part of the group who would give their left nut to see him fired in 06-07 or the first half of last season
I will freely admit that I am one of them. I thought he was stifling our young talent and having the Oilers play a game they weren't suited for. However, I give him full marks for his willingness to change over the last year. He has openly said that this is going to be an offense first team and is prepared to keep the kid line together despite their defensive deficiencies. The biggest change I saw in him was how he gave players a second and third chance after they made a mistake. In recent years if you were a young player and you had some sort of defensive brain-cramp you would see it in your ice time. He trusts his young players more than he used to.


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