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They have been increasingly annoying lately. Nobody seems to be taking the Pens needs into consideration. IF we trade Staal (which is highly unlikely), we will be controlling the negotiations. Staal isn't going to be traded for a stop-gap on defense, so stop trying.
The ONLY ASSET for which Staal would be traded is a decently young, upper-tier scoring winger. This is NOT because Pens fans think he is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ himself. It's because he fills an extremely pressing need right now, and the only incentive to move him would be to upgrade at the position he fills.
Please take this into consideration next time you think about making a proposal for Jordan Staal.
With that being said, I was thinking maybe we could condense all the rediculous Staal proposals into one thread to save space and hopefully help to focus the conversation. I'll start it off I suppose:
To Nash: Jordan Staal
To PIT: Alex Radulov, Dan Hamhuis
(assuming Radulov returns to the NHL AND the Pens get to talk to him before the trade)
P.S.- Sorry if I came off as a jerk or arrogant. I'm just getting tired of some of these unrealistic proposals that start arguments for no reason. Have a great day
I think Staal is getting pretty overrated right now. Even if Staal was better than Radulov (which I don't think he is) adding Hamhuis is just ridiculous for the little upgrade he'd be...
Staal is one of the most overated players here. The guy isn't a very good scorer, he is a great defensive player but so are so many other players in the league. He has never scored much, only got 1 point per game in his last year of junior. He wasn't even in the top 10 in scoring in his last year in the OHL. If he is just an excellent defensive forward he isn't worth a top line winger. Certainly not Radulov (given a guarantee to return) or Hamhuis individually, let alone together.
Staal is one of the most overated players here. The guy isn't a very good scorer, he is a great defensive player but so are so many other players in the league. He has never scored much, only got 1 point per game in his last year of junior. He wasn't even in the top 10 in scoring in his last year in the OHL. If he is just an excellent defensive forward he isn't worth a top line winger. Certainly not Radulov (given a guarantee to return) or Hamhuis individually, let alone together.
He's a good finisher, not a good playmaker.
I made a proposal of Staal for Radulov in a Radulov thread and every single person said Nashville would have to significantly add to that. Maybe Staal for Rads and a conditional 1st if the original proposal is too slanted in the Pens favor. Either that or Staal and a decent prospect/ high draft pick for O'Sullivan and one of their high-end defensive prospects.
P.S.- Sorry if I came off as a jerk or arrogant. I'm just getting tired of some of these unrealistic proposals that start arguments for no reason. Have a great day
Frequenting the Polls board will cause frustration. I commend your efforts, but unfortunately ill-thought proposals will continue on. Though it's possible you could have scored a couple days of prosperity with your post, let us hope.
Also, perhaps including #1 defensemen may be a good return, considering recent events that is
Staal is one of the most overated players here. The guy isn't a very good scorer, he is a great defensive player but so are so many other players in the league. He has never scored much, only got 1 point per game in his last year of junior. He wasn't even in the top 10 in scoring in his last year in the OHL. If he is just an excellent defensive forward he isn't worth a top line winger. Certainly not Radulov (given a guarantee to return) or Hamhuis individually, let alone together.
I dunno man. He netted 29 as an 18 year old rookie. He is back on Geno's wing this year, so I'm sure he will shake off his sophomore slump.
Frequenting the Polls board will cause frustration. I commend your efforts, but unfortunately ill-thought proposals will continue on. Though it's possible you could have scored a couple days of prosperity with your post, let us hope.
Also, perhaps including #1 defensemen may be a good return, considering recent events that is
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Originally Posted by PITTisIT
...Staal isn't going to be traded for a stop-gap on defense, so stop trying...
To PIT: Alex Radulov, Dan Hamhuis
(assuming Radulov returns to the NHL AND the Pens get to talk to him before the trade)
P.S.- Sorry if I came off as a jerk or arrogant. I'm just getting tired of some of these unrealistic proposals that start arguments for no reason. Have a great day
I think this is a pretty unrealistic proposal.
If I were Nashville, I wouldn't trade Hamhuis straight up for Staal. Adding Radulov, who talent-wise is as good if not better than Staal, is just madness.
To PIT: Alex Radulov, Dan Hamhuis
(assuming Radulov returns to the NHL AND the Pens get to talk to him before the trade)
Radulov >> Staal
Staal is ridiculously overated on these boards. I'll wait till he has a 50 point year.
However, I do agree that the Penguins do not need to trade him. No team in their right mind deals a 5th overall pick until they are actually deemed a "bust" and another team picks that player up in hopes that the player picks his game up.
Staal is one of the most overated players here. The guy isn't a very good scorer, he is a great defensive player but so are so many other players in the league. He has never scored much, only got 1 point per game in his last year of junior. He wasn't even in the top 10 in scoring in his last year in the OHL. If he is just an excellent defensive forward he isn't worth a top line winger. Certainly not Radulov (given a guarantee to return) or Hamhuis individually, let alone together.
He scored more goals in his 18 year old rookie season than Radulov did in either of his NHL years.
I wouldn't make that deal anyway. Right idea, but Radulov's too much of a flake.
For clarity's sake: I appreciate everyone commenting on the proposal I made, but the main point of this thread was to clarify to everyone as to what the Pens needs are and let people make their own proposals from there. Mine was just sort of an ice breaker I guess.
If Staal is so overrated here why does every team think they can get him for a borderline third liner and a second round pick? Staal is shat on more than any other player here.
Trust us, we'd prefer if you'd just stop telling us how bad he is and stop making proposals involving him.
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If Staal is so overrated here why does every team think they can get him for a borderline third liner and a second round pick? Staal is shat on more than any other player here.
Trust us, we'd prefer if you'd just stop telling us how bad he is and stop making proposals involving him.
Why don't we just stop making Jordan Staal proposals..They are so ******* annoying, due to how underrated he is right now due to this sophmore slump and due to the fact that he is clearly a bust since he is way past the age of player who is still developing..
..and even more stupid? Alex Radulov proposals. Those are simply idiotic. HE FLED THE NHL TO PLAY/STAR IN THE KHL WHILE STILL UNDER CONTRACT WITH AN NHL TEAM. He then went on to bash the NHL ever so subtly. He will be the new Morozov. He was good in the NHL but before he could reach his true potential he decided he wanted the big bucks NOW and the superstardom NOW, and he will excel in his homeland and be happier then ever.
Why in the HELL would he be inclined to come back?
Staal is ridiculously overated on these boards. I'll wait till he has a 50 point year.
However, I do agree that the Penguins do not need to trade him. No team in their right mind deals a 5th overall pick until they are actually deemed a "bust" and another team picks that player up in hopes that the player picks his game up.
Thank you. My point was that the Pens are not gonna go shopping him, nor should they. If a GM wants to talk about a trade involving Staal, they'd better be prepared to overpay.
I think that's where the "Staal is overrated" cliche came from. I'm not trying to imply that his value is actually that high, just that we have no need to trade him unless it's an overpayment. (Hey wasn't that the mantra when all of those crazy Malkin proposals were taking over this board last season?)
P.S.- Sorry if I came off as a jerk or arrogant. I'm just getting tired of some of these unrealistic proposals that start arguments for no reason. Have a great day
