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12-30-2008, 12:59 PM
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Koivu injury a blessing in disguise?

I was just thinking about the recent re-emergence of the pleks line. Now i know it's only been about 3 games now where they've seemed to click, but had koivu's dominance continued with EVERY winger he was put with, i don't think the pressure for kovalev and co. to succeed would have been there like it is now. I was pondering this at work last night and this was without me knowing that pleks, kovy and kosty had another good game.

What do you guys think?

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I think its more coincidence. ATAK was bound to get back into shape at some point, you can't stay snake bitten forever. They've proved to Carbo exactly why they should be together, and its finally clicking like it used to. It's only been a few games but I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.

The blessing in disguise is losing one of our best two way players in Higgins and our very best player in Koivu and still winning games. People are waiting for the Habs to be "dominant" and once those two are back in the line-up, once they find some more permanant lines to click on, we will be dominant.

As I've said a million times, I'd rather deal with and conquer adversity in December than deal with it and not have enough time to conquer it in April.

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Koivu's injury has allowed a couple younger players to step up, but I don't think his injury should be thought of as a catalyst to propel Kovalev to pick up his play. Certainly Plekanec may have seen an opportunity. With his injury it magnifies the lack of depth we have at the centre position. We have a lot of depth on the wing and that helps disguise the problem. When Koivu returns we should be truly scary offensively.

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Oddly enough, the re-emergence of the AKost-Plek-Kovalev line seems to have more to do with Plekanec regaining confidence as opposed to Kovalev doing anything particularly different. Seems to me that as Plekanec goes, that line goes...

This is not to say Kovalev is playing especially badly either... to me it's more like it highlights the importance of having effective players at the center position.

Whether Plekanec's re-emergence has to do with Saku's absence is anyone's guess... some players do take the absence of a key player as an opportunity to step-up. On the other hand, a little has been said on RDS about Plekanec taking the xmas break away from hockey in an attempt to clear his mind and shake away the lack of confidence he was displaying. Nice to see him getting rewarded for his play, finally.

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Oddly enough, the re-emergence of the AKost-Plek-Kovalev line seems to have more to do with Plekanec regaining confidence as opposed to Kovalev doing anything particularly different. Seems to me that as Plekanec goes, that line goes...

This is not to say Kovalev is playing especially badly either... to me it's more like it highlights the importance of having effective players at the center position.

Whether Plekanec's re-emergence has to do with Saku's absence is anyone's guess... some players do take the absence of a key player as an opportunity to step-up. On the other hand, a little has been said on RDS about Plekanec taking the xmas break away from hockey in an attempt to clear his mind and shake away the lack of confidence he was displaying. Nice to see him getting rewarded for his play, finally.

Totally agree.


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Totally agree.


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The real duo in this line is Andrei-Plekanec

now we can put any wonger there to obtain an excellent


I want the CAT line back

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+1

The real duo in this line is Andrei-Plekanec

now we can put any wonger there to obtain an excellent


I want the CAT line back
Has Carbonneau tried using Higgins with Andrei/Plex yet? They were quite dominant in their short stint a couple years ago. Next year if Kovalev is not with the team I can see that becoming a good scoring line.

ATAK line resurgence also has a lot to do with Andrei Kostitsyn starting to shoot the puck more often.

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Tanguay hasn't really clicked with anyone but Koivu though. I wouldn't mind him producing as much as he did in the first 10 games.

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I was just thinking about the recent re-emergence of the pleks line. Now i know it's only been about 3 games now where they've seemed to click, but had koivu's dominance continued with EVERY winger he was put with, i don't think the pressure for kovalev and co. to succeed would have been there like it is now. I was pondering this at work last night and this was without me knowing that pleks, kovy and kosty had another good game.

What do you guys think?
It's far from a blessing. Maxwell has been far from an adequate replacement for a player as important as Koivu. I don't think his absence has anything to do with the play of the healthy players. For the first few games he was missing, the Habs kept losing, as in the games against TB, NJ, and Carolina. Tanguay and d'Agostini have cooled off and SKost has been poor.

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Playing through adversity...

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good theory, but I was really hoping Koivu would have a career year, 80points, he deserves it.

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we barely play over .500 since he's been injured, how can it be some kind of blessing ?

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The real duo in this line is Andrei-Plekanec

now we can put any wonger there to obtain an excellent


I want the CAT line back
The line works when Pleks passes the puck to Andrei. He should realize that he's not doing anyone a favour by just playing with Kovalev like he did at the beginning of the season. You're right, the real duo that gets the line going is Pleks and Andrei.

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A.Kost-Plekanec-Kovalev
D'Agostini-Koivu-Tanguay
S.Kostitsyn-Lang-Higgins
Begin-Lapierre-Latendresse

Seems to be the lines when Koivu and Higgins return.

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Koivu's injury is no blessing for tanguay! (even thought they weren't playing together lately).

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Koivu's injury is no blessing for tanguay! (even thought they weren't playing together lately).
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I was just thinking about the recent re-emergence of the pleks line. Now i know it's only been about 3 games now where they've seemed to click, but had koivu's dominance continued with EVERY winger he was put with, i don't think the pressure for kovalev and co. to succeed would have been there like it is now. I was pondering this at work last night and this was without me knowing that pleks, kovy and kosty had another good game.

What do you guys think?
I'd like to see if their progress on the ATAK line will continue. There was that 1 game where both Kovy and Pleks had 4 points so I duno..

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Has Carbonneau tried using Higgins with Andrei/Plex yet? They were quite dominant in their short stint a couple years ago. Next year if Kovalev is not with the team I can see that becoming a good scoring line.

ATAK line resurgence also has a lot to do with Andrei Kostitsyn starting to shoot the puck more often.
Andrei on the right wing?
That never seams to happen.
Not that I'd oppose trying it, but I hope we soon stop trying things.
It would be nice if the lines settled down and well... worked.

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Can someone give me some info on how long Koivu will be out? Havent heard any info on him.

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Can someone give me some info on how long Koivu will be out? Havent heard any info on him.
Not sure how accurate this is, but they say at least mid-January...

http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/injuries

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