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10-02-2008, 06:42 AM
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kaberle
steen

staal
orpik
1st rounder

PITS thoughts: We just improved out defence massivly with the addition of kaberle, not only in the short term as a replacement for gonchar, but when he comes back we have a gonchar/kaberle powerplay. The addition of steen is a cheap top6 center/winger that can play 2way fine and pot some goals. was highly touted and may still break out when put next to an elite goalscorer like malkin or crosby.

TOR thoughts:
We add a young, strong 2way great pk top 6 centerman to our team, adds to our crap pk and provides a solution to the lack of studlyness at center. and we get orpik which is a good 28 year old physical defenceman, signed to a decent term, is younger then kaberle and really solidifies the physical presence that our team is looking for from their defence. and we get the first rounder to add value.

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10-02-2008, 06:49 AM
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Not horrible, for another Staal for Kaberle deal, but with the addition of Steen and Orpik, adding a 1st from Pit seems like too much to me.

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Lol, Pittsburgh says NO!

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change the 1st to a 3rd and a mid prospect, and pittsburgh considers it.

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After seeing the last 5 Toronto trade proposals, you have added a peice that is just as valuable to the Pens team as Staal.

And someone please tell me why the Pens want Steen? Please...refresh me as to why we want to trade for another top 6 center who will be on our 3rd line.

Please, research before you make trade proposals...this kills the Pens.

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10-02-2008, 07:52 AM
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New direction....

To Pits:
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Jiri Tlusty
Pavel Kubina

To Tor:
Jordan Staal
one of T.Kennedy/Talbot/Grant
Sydor (salary dump)


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change the 1st to a 3rd and a mid prospect, and pittsburgh considers it.
uhh no they dont

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How about the Penguins don't want any garbage from the Leafs.... cant that finally be accepted. You seriously have to be the most annoying fans of any team on this board. You keep doing the SAME thing over and over even when everyone tells you it's stupid. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Theres ton's of Montreal fans on these boards but you don't see them doing this crap the way you leaf fans do. So stop using as a crutch that there are just a lot of you. Any Leaf fan that posts a Staal for anyone on the leafs trade is braindead.

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10-02-2008, 08:04 AM
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I'm now convinced they're doing this only to agitate Pittsburgh fans. There's no other reason. Someone should put a stop to it, really. Seriously.

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I'm just going to boycott these threads. Obvious Maple Leaf trolls are obvious.

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Pitt gets the shaft

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New direction....

To Pits:
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Jiri Tlusty
Pavel Kubina

To Tor:
Jordan Staal
one of T.Kennedy/Talbot/Grant
Sydor (salary dump)
So we don't even get Kaberle by giving up Staal?

And thanks for letting us dump Sydor's salary and take on Kubina's...that makes sense.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! HISSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

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10-02-2008, 09:49 AM
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After seeing the last 5 Toronto trade proposals, you have added a peice that is just as valuable to the Pens team as Staal.

And someone please tell me why the Pens want Steen? Please...refresh me as to why we want to trade for another top 6 center who will be on our 3rd line.

Please, research before you make trade proposals...this kills the Pens.
Steen plays wing...

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So we don't even get Kaberle by giving up Staal?

And thanks for letting us dump Sydor's salary and take on Kubina's...that makes sense.
Well you guys didn't want to give up a 1st in the deal so.....

I mean, Kaberle will bring in a young up and comer (Staal), a b level prospect (?) and a 1st easily.

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kaberle
steen

staal
orpik
1st rounder

PITS thoughts: We just improved out defence massivly with the addition of kaberle, not only in the short term as a replacement for gonchar, but when he comes back we have a gonchar/kaberle powerplay. The addition of steen is a cheap top6 center/winger that can play 2way fine and pot some goals. was highly touted and may still break out when put next to an elite goalscorer like malkin or crosby.

TOR thoughts:
We add a young, strong 2way great pk top 6 centerman to our team, adds to our crap pk and provides a solution to the lack of studlyness at center. and we get orpik which is a good 28 year old physical defenceman, signed to a decent term, is younger then kaberle and really solidifies the physical presence that our team is looking for from their defence. and we get the first rounder to add value.
Real Pittsburgh Thoughts: We are short on top 2 line wingers so let's trade one of ours. Whitney and Gonchar are coming back this season so we don't need another offensive defensemen and Whitney is more than capable of playing the other point on the PP, but let's add another offensive defensemen anyways. We already have 4-5 but who cares. In doing so we now have 2 3rd liners on the top 2 lines and with Kabrele's contract carrying over 2 more season we will weaken our chances of getting more capable top 2 liners. Yes this all makes sense can I have a pen please.

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Real Pittsburgh Thoughts: We are short on top 2 line wingers so let's trade one of ours. Whitney and Gonchar are coming back this season so we don't need another offensive defensemen and Whitney is more than capable of playing the other point on the PP, but let's add another offensive defensemen anyways. We already have 4-5 but who cares. In doing so we now have 2 3rd liners on the top 2 lines and with Kabrele's contract carrying over 2 more season we will weaken our chances of getting more capable top 2 liners. Yes this all makes sense can I have a pen please.
You don't understand Kaberle is a two-way monster.

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10-02-2008, 10:03 AM
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Well you guys didn't want to give up a 1st in the deal so.....

I mean, Kaberle will bring in a young up and comer (Staal), a b level prospect (?) and a 1st easily.
Maybe to a team that doesn't already have 4-5 offensive defensemen on it and has some depth on the top line wingers!

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Kaberle is the best player the Leafs can offer for Staal. There have been 626474324 proposals involving moving Kaberle for Staal (not to mention just about every other player on the Leafs' roster). All of these proposals have been immediately rejected by Pittsburgh fans.

Here's what I don't get... If the Pens' fan base doesn't want the Leafs most valuable trade commodity for Staal, and its pretty clear they don't, why on earth would anyone in their right mind concoct another proposal between these two franchises?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results. I should know...I am insane, afterall.

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10-02-2008, 10:09 AM
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Well you guys didn't want to give up a 1st in the deal so.....
Yeah but the Pens are less eager to part with Staal...especially if it garners such a meager return.

This is where you tell me how overrated Staal is and how great Kubina and Tlusty are then I question why you want such an overrated player like Staal...sorry...I'm just trying to speed up the process of this thread dying...

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10-02-2008, 10:15 AM
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Steen is worthless.
This is easily one o the worst Kaberle-Staal threads ive ever seen.

PITTSBURGH is not desperate for Kaberle, thus there is ZERO chance they will overpay for him. We have defensive depth to deal with the Gonchar and Whitney injuries. And im saying that with no disrespect for Kaberle's talent. Shero is simply not going to mortgage the future for Kaberle. Not to mention this trade doesnt actually help us since we lose 2 roster players for 1 (Steen is pure garbage) and what we really need is a young top 6 winger.


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Can't believe folks still fall for this nonsense.

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kaberle
steen

staal
orpik
1st rounder

PITS thoughts: We just improved out defence massivly with the addition of kaberle, not only in the short term as a replacement for gonchar, but when he comes back we have a gonchar/kaberle powerplay. The addition of steen is a cheap top6 center/winger that can play 2way fine and pot some goals. was highly touted and may still break out when put next to an elite goalscorer like malkin or crosby.

TOR thoughts:
We add a young, strong 2way great pk top 6 centerman to our team, adds to our crap pk and provides a solution to the lack of studlyness at center. and we get orpik which is a good 28 year old physical defenceman, signed to a decent term, is younger then kaberle and really solidifies the physical presence that our team is looking for from their defence. and we get the first rounder to add value.
I think Penguins giving up a 1st rounder is a little steep. Change it to a 2nd rounder and I call that a fair deal.

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10-02-2008, 10:51 AM
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Can any of you leafs fans that keep making these deal up or anyone that agrees with them explain to why you don't understand that the Penguins don't need a defenseman. Period. And why you don't understand that trading Staal for Kaberle just creates another hole and takes away from the little cap room that they already don't have.

Please someone answer this post.

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