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10-05-2008, 09:29 PM
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sharks players that can be traded

sharks need to loose cap space

what teams would be interested in players like

mclaren(we'll give anything to get rid of him)
grier(has to be a good return)
Ehroff(has to be good return)

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10-05-2008, 09:31 PM
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I'd love to have Grier on the Canucks. The guy is all heart.

Burrows-Kesler-Grier would be one of the top checking lines in the league, easily.

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10-05-2008, 09:32 PM
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sharks need to loose cap space

what teams would be interested in players like

mclaren(we'll give anything to get rid of him)
grier(has to be a good return)
Ehroff(has to be good return)
Kyle McLaren doesn't have to be traded to lose his cap hit so if people expect the Sharks to add a pick when Schneider didn't need one at 5.625, they're fooling themselves. There probably isn't a market for McLaren right now so waiving him to Worcester would be a last resort.

Mike Grier has a no-trade clause and the Sharks have no motivation to trade him with the ability to waive and assign Kyle McLaren.

It would be stupid to trade Ehrhoff after extending him and him being our best overall defenseman last season from start to finish.

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10-05-2008, 09:33 PM
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No way the Sharks would trade Grier. McLaren is the most likely to be moved/dumped.

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10-05-2008, 09:34 PM
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No way the Sharks would trade Grier. McLaren is the most likely to be moved/dumped.
Back to reality.

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10-05-2008, 09:36 PM
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Kyle McLaren doesn't have to be traded to lose his cap hit so if people expect the Sharks to add a pick when Schneider didn't need one at 5.625, they're fooling themselves. There probably isn't a market for McLaren right now so waiving him to Worcester would be a last resort.

Mike Grier has a no-trade clause and the Sharks have no motivation to trade him with the ability to waive and assign Kyle McLaren.

It would be stupid to trade Ehrhoff after extending him and him being our best overall defenseman last season from start to finish.
okay your right about everything

but the ehroff being the best overall
the best was by far Vlasic or Rivet

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10-05-2008, 09:37 PM
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Back to reality.
Yea, Grier would be a great fit with Kesler/Burrows, but it also appears that Hansen will be a solid linemate for them as well.

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Truthfully it is very close between Ehrhoff and Vlasic IMO. Anyone could say either of the 2 were best.

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10-06-2008, 01:43 AM
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McLaren would be a good pickup by the Oilers. They need a solid defensive defenseman on the blueline.

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okay your right about everything

but the ehroff being the best overall
the best was by far Vlasic or Rivet
Doug Wilson does not agree with you. He made the statement that Ehrhoff was THE stopper in an interview.

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10-06-2008, 03:27 AM
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Doug Wilson does not agree with you. He made the statement that Ehrhoff was THE stopper in an interview.
I agree wholeheartedly with him, Ehrhoff had an unreal year last year, while Vlasic fell off a bit. I think Ehrhoff is this most underrated player in the league, and one of the best penalty killing d-men in the conference. If he can get back to his rookie year abilities, or exceed them, the sharks d is looking really solid.

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10-06-2008, 10:21 AM
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I think some sort of deal arround grebeshkov and maclearn would make sense for both teams? San Jose gets some more offense and puck movement and oilers get someone that can't play a shutdown role.

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10-06-2008, 10:21 AM
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Ehroff for Schafer or Alberts

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sharks need to loose cap space

what teams would be interested in players like

mclaren(we'll give anything to get rid of him)
grier(has to be a good return)
Ehroff(has to be good return)
Marleau!

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Marleau!
Bwahahaha, you guys can't trick us Habs fans about rumours of him going to Montreal now....well, at least for the rest of this season. Than it'll all come back next summer

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10-06-2008, 11:21 AM
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No way the Sharks would trade Grier. McLaren is the most likely to be moved/dumped.
Quite agree,Sj hurts their playoff chances with this move.Grier is to valuable to them.

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10-06-2008, 01:52 PM
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Doug Wilson does not agree with you. He made the statement that Ehrhoff was THE stopper in an interview.
Good ol' DW, giving Ehrhoff leniency after having a dismal year offensively and repeatedly taking dumb penalties (which would usually end up with the Sharks on the butt end of a 5-on-3). Oh, but he's fast.

There were worse players on the Sharks D than Ehrhoff last year, but I don't know how he could be the best. Even if he were technically better than everyone on the Sharks back end, I still wouldn't use the words "best" and "Ehrhoff" in a sentence unless we were talking about how well he missed the net last year.

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Good ol' DW, giving Ehrhoff leniency after having a dismal year offensively and repeatedly taking dumb penalties (which would usually end up with the Sharks on the butt end of a 5-on-3). Oh, but he's fast.

There were worse players on the Sharks D than Ehrhoff last year, but I don't know how he could be the best. Even if he were technically better than everyone on the Sharks back end, I still wouldn't use the words "best" and "Ehrhoff" in a sentence unless we were talking about how well he missed the net last year.
Sometime early last season, management told Ehrhoff to concentrate on D. After that he became at worst tied for the best d-man defensively for the sharks last year. Look how badly the back-end suffered when he went down at the end of the year.

Not sure how many SJ games you see or which ones you saw but I totally disagree with your post. In fact, if he could just hit the net once in a while he'd be a Super solid 3rd D-man or possibly even a good 2nd if he continues his progress.

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sharks need to loose cap space

what teams would be interested in players like

mclaren(we'll give anything to get rid of him)
grier(has to be a good return)
Ehroff(has to be good return)
Grier for Crosby or how about Grier for Malkin? is that good enough return?

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10-06-2008, 03:56 PM
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okay your right about everything

but the ehroff being the best overall
the best was by far Vlasic or Rivet
No, they weren't

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Sometime early last season, management told Ehrhoff to concentrate on D. After that he became at worst tied for the best d-man defensively for the sharks last year. Look how badly the back-end suffered when he went down at the end of the year.

Not sure how many SJ games you see or which ones you saw but I totally disagree with your post. In fact, if he could just hit the net once in a while he'd be a Super solid 3rd D-man or possibly even a good 2nd if he continues his progress.
You stated my point well. I am well aware of his offensive woes. Someone else did an interpretation of the interview that was even more favorable to Ehrhoff than I am. The win/loss record with him out of the line up was something like 2-6, playoffs included. I don't think he is the greatest stopper or the next offensive superstar but he definitely made a difference for the Sharks transition game which showed in his stats. He was also critical to the PK.

My guess for this year is that he ends up #2 in ice time for the Sharks defense.


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I'd give up Prucha and a pick for Grier, however it provide virtually no cap savings for you. would just be interested in reuniting Grier and Drury.

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Sometime early last season, management told Ehrhoff to concentrate on D. After that he became at worst tied for the best d-man defensively for the sharks last year. Look how badly the back-end suffered when he went down at the end of the year.

Not sure how many SJ games you see or which ones you saw but I totally disagree with your post. In fact, if he could just hit the net once in a while he'd be a Super solid 3rd D-man or possibly even a good 2nd if he continues his progress.
So you disagree with my post, but then you said that IF he could hit the net, he'd be a solid third or second D...

To answer your question, I watched every game (went to about 38+ playoffs), except for the one that was blacked-out on Center Ice and wasn't a home game, but I did listen to that one.

I'm not saying he's the worst defenseman, in the league or on the team, and I tried to make that clear. Losing him for those games did have an effect, for sure. Putting in a hurt McLaren, an old Ozo, or a healthy Semenov isn't going to help the team win games in his absence (especially with Carle faultering for most of the year, Rivet unable to hold the puck at the point in the beginning of the year, and Murray being generally mediocre on both sides of the ice). He is certainly more valuable to the team than those 3 guys. I was just stating how I find his name and best don't really sit well in my mind.

The Sharks didn't have a great top pairing D last year, IMO, and did surprisingly well despite that.

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10-06-2008, 06:59 PM
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I'd give up Prucha and a pick for Grier, however it provide virtually no cap savings for you. would just be interested in reuniting Grier and Drury.
Even if the Sharks wanted to deal Grier, he has a NTC

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Looks like they are in the same boat as everyone else. The spare parts they want to trade, nobody wants. The guys people want, they don't want to give up.

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