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11-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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Frankly a better longterm solution would have been to have either Niemi or Crawford play this year and get experiance and ride Khabibulin to the playoffs. Then in off season maybe bring back Khabby on a 2 yr deal at a lower rate to be our 1A type starter the 1st year and move into backup role year 2! Khabby is getting old so i think he would have done something like that. Niemi looks like the real deal in AHL so what happens if lets say next year Niemi outplays Huet! What would Hawks do?
I don't know about you, but I'm sick of finishing 4th and 5th in the Central.

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His positioning was **** and he was going down early and staying down. Many moments and the team had no faith in him as was evidenced by the constant penalties they took down low.
This is one of my major gripes with Huet. I know he can be a good goalie, but his style looks so nonchalant all the time and he stays on his knees for way too long. Watching him last night, I wanted Stephane Waite to burn him out on up and down drills in practice to drive the point home. Some of those goals he simply looked like he wasn't trying on.

Khabby may let in the soft goal now and then, but at least he plays with a sense of urgency. You can tell he works his ass off.

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Huet has to play every day to be effective, which is true for almost every positional goalie, eh? There's a reason nobody will take Habby but some would take Huet. Give him a few consecutive starts and he will be fine.

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Khabibulin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Huet

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Trade Huet and bring up Niemi... it's the only solution.

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Huet has to play every day to be effective, which is true for almost every positional goalie, eh? There's a reason nobody will take Habby but some would take Huet. Give him a few consecutive starts and he will be fine.
Having seen Huet a few years, I wholeheartedly agree. The man is at his best when he gets starts, he hasn't started twice in a row this year, which pisses me off, as he had strung together 3 nice games in a row.

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Khabibulin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Huet

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This is one of my major gripes with Huet. I know he can be a good goalie, but his style looks so nonchalant all the time and he stays on his knees for way too long. Watching him last night, I wanted Stephane Waite to burn him out on up and down drills in practice to drive the point home. Some of those goals he simply looked like he wasn't trying on.

Khabby may let in the soft goal now and then, but at least he plays with a sense of urgency. You can tell he works his ass off.
Watching Huet i wish Stephane would call up his brother Jim! I would prefer Jimmy Waite in net over Huet right now!

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Khabibulin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Huet
TRUE!

I would also say

Thibault >>>>>>>>>>>>>Huet
Hackett>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Huet
Lalime >>Huet
Maybe even Passmore >Huet Ok that might be a stretch!

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Trade Huet and bring up Niemi... it's the only solution.
Wish it was possible but we are stuck with him!

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Having seen Huet a few years, I wholeheartedly agree. The man is at his best when he gets starts, he hasn't started twice in a row this year, which pisses me off, as he had strung together 3 nice games in a row.

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Khabibulin is outplaying him! If Huet wanted to be #1 he shouldn't have sucked so bad in preseason and early games!

ROFL! Khabby=Champion > Huet= Choker when it matter!

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Dude here really needs to get a grip on reality, bwahahahaa.

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Frankly a better longterm solution would have been to have either Niemi or Crawford play this year and get experiance and ride Khabibulin to the playoffs. Then in off season maybe bring back Khabby on a 2 yr deal at a lower rate to be our 1A type starter the 1st year and move into backup role year 2! Khabby is getting old so i think he would have done something like that. Niemi looks like the real deal in AHL so what happens if lets say next year Niemi outplays Huet! What would Hawks do?
Niemi is unproven, Khabibulin is getting very old and is not coming off stellar seasons. What you proposed they do would have been a very big gamble in the offseason that, if it backfired, would have cost the Hawks big in a time where they are trying to get their fans interested in the team and game again.

It is also clear that Tallon expected to be able to move Khabibulin and that this was a terrible miscalculation on his part.

Signing Huet was a lousy move for this season, but having no proven goalie going into next season would have been a thousand times more devastating.

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Niemi is unproven, Khabibulin is getting very old and is not coming off stellar seasons. What you proposed they do would have been a very big gamble in the offseason that, if it backfired, would have cost the Hawks big in a time where they are trying to get their fans interested in the team and game again.

It is also clear that Tallon expected to be able to move Khabibulin and that this was a terrible miscalculation on his part.

Signing Huet was a lousy move for this season, but having no proven goalie going into next season would have been a thousand times more devastating.
Lets see who could of been had this offseason as possible UFA's!

Backstrom (Min)
Biron (Phi)
Nittymaki (Phi)
Garon (Edm)

And guys like Hiller (Ana), Lehtonen (Atl), Erksberg (LAK), Halak (Mon) and Toskala (Tor) could be available via trade after this year! So it wasn't neccessary to sign Huet especially when he have a good amount of assets we could move for a guy like Halak!

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Dude here really needs to get a grip on reality, bwahahahaa.
The reality is Khabibulin is a proven winner who is playing great while Huet is unproven as a true #1 and is struggling since last years playoffs against Flyers.

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The reality is Khabibulin is a proven winner who is playing great while Huet is unproven as a true #1 and is struggling since last years playoffs against Flyers.
Are you kidding me?!

Khabibulin's only season as a Cup champ was his best, he's in NO WAY lived up to the massive deal he signed back then, he's been a total letdown for the Hawks.

Go over to the caps board and ask them if he struggled in that series, I have no idea why you seem keen on ignoring everything around you, Huet was the reason it went to 7, that he even BROUGHT them to the playoffs.

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Are you kidding me?!

Khabibulin's only season as a Cup champ was his best, he's in NO WAY lived up to the massive deal he signed back then, he's been a total letdown for the Hawks.

Go over to the caps board and ask them if he struggled in that series, I have no idea why you seem keen on ignoring everything around you, Huet was the reason it went to 7, that he even BROUGHT them to the playoffs.
does alexander ovechkin ring a bell?

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The reality is Khabibulin is a proven winner who is playing great while Huet is unproven as a true #1 and is struggling since last years playoffs against Flyers.
Our proven winner with a .899 SV% in his first three years here?

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does alexander ovechkin ring a bell?
Before Huet, the Caps were going nowhere, even with Ovechkin scoring like a machine.

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Why don't you Québécois Huet apologists keep your gushing to the Habs board?

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Huet is a better tender then anyone on that UFA list outside of Backstrom, and I severely doubt that Minny lets him get anywhere close to UFA. He had one bad game, and is still sporting .900 sv%. Khabi has played better yes, but putting a guy in after a weeks rest and seeing him bomb will happen every now and then. People who think we would be good with a near 40 Khabi and Niemi next year are off there meds. Niemi is tearing up the AHL, just like Michael Leighton did last year. Anybody really want him as a starter here?

All that said, I'm not terribly for or against either of Khabi/Huet. One thing is for sure though, and that's that one of them needs to go.

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Huet is a better tender then anyone on that UFA list outside of Backstrom, and I severely doubt that Minny lets him get anywhere close to UFA. He had one bad game, and is still sporting .900 sv%. Khabi has played better yes, but putting a guy in after a weeks rest and seeing him bomb will happen every now and then. People who think we would be good with a near 40 Khabi and Niemi next year are off there meds. Niemi is tearing up the AHL, just like Michael Leighton did last year. Anybody really want him as a starter here?

All that said, I'm not terribly for or against either of Khabi/Huet. One thing is for sure though, and that's that one of them needs to go.
Anyone who thinks Niemi wouldn't be a good backup hasn't seen enough Niemi. He's big, fast and technically sound with none of the gaping holes that would keep a goaltender from being successful (like Leighton's atrocious rebound control).

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Anyone who thinks Niemi wouldn't be a good backup hasn't seen enough Niemi. He's big, fast and technically sound with none of the gaping holes that would keep a goaltender from being successful (like Leighton's atrocious rebound control).
Yeah Niemi looked far and away the best goalie in camp/preseason. His AHL stats have been great so I would assume he's playing very well there though I haven't seen him. It isn't necessarily an indicator or NHL success but its definitely an indicator of someone who should see some time in the big league.

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Hmm! Colombia has a hockey team?

Khabibulin is out playing Huet. If Huet wanted to be #1 he should have played well in preseason
and start of year but he was awful and Khabibulin has been far better and gives the team and fans a confidence that Huet doesn't.

And Khabibulin will give up a bad goal like every goalie. But at least he moves, Huet just stands there and doesn't move on half of his bad goals. Seriously i have never seen a goalie who doesn't move like the goals he gave up vs Rangers, Wild, Sharks!
Colombia Columbus same thing

Your talking about preseason? Preaseason man? You're talking about preseason? Preaseason which is basically just a practice? Are you serious man?

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Perhaps Blackhawkswincup knew about this 'Duncan Keith Curse' all along and thats why he has been so insane in his derision of Huet? Or! Perhaps! Not!!!

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Niemi is unproven, Khabibulin is getting very old and is not coming off stellar seasons. What you proposed they do would have been a very big gamble in the offseason that, if it backfired, would have cost the Hawks big in a time where they are trying to get their fans interested in the team and game again.

It is also clear that Tallon expected to be able to move Khabibulin and that this was a terrible miscalculation on his part.

Signing Huet was a lousy move for this season, but having no proven goalie going into next season would have been a thousand times more devastating.
Niemi will remain unproven until he is given a chance.

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