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02-25-2004, 05:22 AM
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Deadline Dealing For Darcy

http://wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1666757&nav=0RagL4GT

there are a few idea's. some are ok, like the gonchar one. but their overpaying for rental's and O'niell. i hate the tallinder one, as he has been solid of late and is better for the future.

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Those guys are too optimistic.The deals I want to happen is this....


Satan to the Rangers for 5 million
Drury to the Avalanche for 5 Million
Biron to Detroit for 5 million.
Alexei Zhitnik to Dallas for 5 million

with that 30 million in room,maybe we could actually get a playoff team.We sure as hell aren't making the playoffs this year.

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Those guys are too optimistic.The deals I want to happen is this....


Satan to the Rangers for 5 million
Drury to the Avalanche for 5 Million
Biron to Detroit for 5 million.
Alexei Zhitnik to Dallas for 5 million

with that 30 million in room,maybe we could actually get a playoff team.We sure as hell aren't making the playoffs this year.

y wont they make it this year? 7 points behind the habs with 2 games in hand, including 2 games with the habs? i wouldnt count em out yet

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Who the heck is this guy! His proposals are abolutely horrible. He would be the laughing stock of the league.

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Well let's just say it's a good thing they give these jobs to former players and coaches and not sports anchors.

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http://wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1666757&nav=0RagL4GT

there are a few idea's. some are ok, like the gonchar one. but their overpaying for rental's and O'niell. i hate the tallinder one, as he has been solid of late and is better for the future.
I actually like the Tallinder deal... Carney's one of my favorites and a good alternative to Jason Smith if EDM wants too much for him.

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Those guys are too optimistic.The deals I want to happen is this....


Satan to the Rangers for 5 million
Drury to the Avalanche for 5 Million
Biron to Detroit for 5 million.
Alexei Zhitnik to Dallas for 5 million

with that 30 million in room,maybe we could actually get a playoff team.We sure as hell aren't making the playoffs this year.
We certainly have a good shot at the playoffs this season, all exaggeration aside. And, while I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of these happen (Biron, Satan, preferrably for a little less money and a draft pick added), I don't think any of them are a good idea.

BTW,
Why in god's name would Det want Biron? (CuJo and Legace are better goalies)

Why would the Rangers want Satan? (a logjam at RW)

Why would the Avs want Drury? (he's been replaced by Konowalchuk and Nikolishin)

Why would we give up Zhitnik? (so, he's not Rob Blake... he's still one of the top 15 defensemen in the league)

You know, being angry about the fact that we're not champions is one thing.... refusing to see the progress that's been made in the past 12 months is downright stubborn, and that's where I see this post coming from.

Ta,

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Who the heck is this guy! His proposals are abolutely horrible. He would be the laughing stock of the league.
His proposals are more realistic than most proposed on these boards.

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I actually like the Tallinder deal... Carney's one of my favorites and a good alternative to Jason Smith if EDM wants too much for him.

Ta,
Why not get both? And you wouldn't have to deal Tallinder for Carney. Campbell and draft choices would do it.

Then pull the trigger on Biron for Smith....

Kalinin / Zhitnik
Carney / Smith
Tallinder / Fitzpatrick

McKee, Patrick, hurt. Delmore useless.

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Noronen, Pyatt, 2nd round pick for Jeff O'neill.

That's laughable. I think Carolina would probably go for that.

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Why not get both? And you wouldn't have to deal Tallinder for Carney. Campbell and draft choices would do it.

Then pull the trigger on Biron for Smith....

Kalinin / Zhitnik
Carney / Smith
Tallinder / Fitzpatrick

McKee, Patrick, hurt. Delmore useless.
Ok, fine with me, that's a Defense I can live with. I was just being realistic that Darth Regier wouldn't pull more than 1 deadline deal.

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I get the feeling we could see more trades than people think. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

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Why not get both? And you wouldn't have to deal Tallinder for Carney. Campbell and draft choices would do it.

Then pull the trigger on Biron for Smith....

Kalinin / Zhitnik
Carney / Smith
Tallinder / Fitzpatrick

McKee, Patrick, hurt. Delmore useless.
Not a bad idea. I would like to get Salo and picks included in the Edmonton deal. We can use Salo as a nice backup until Miller is ready and the picks make up for taking on his salary.

Also my pairings would look like this:

Kalinin/Zhitnik
Tallinder/Smith
Fitzpatrick/Carney

Tallinder could do really well offensively with Smith being his insurance in case he gets caught deep, and playing with a great Dman and leader like Smith would really help him develop. When McKee returns he could pair up with Carney to create a pretty strong shut down tandem, like we pretty much had with McKee/Warrener.

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I think taking Salo's contract would be what seals the deal. And you'd probably want him as a backup to Miller in the short term too. Hopefully you could expand that deal to include Laraque.

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I think taking Salo's contract would be what seals the deal. And you'd probably want him as a backup to Miller in the short term too. Hopefully you could expand that deal to include Laraque.
What's Laraque going to do? He hasn't been an imovable object in front of the net offensively and he doesn't fight anyone. When we only had Boulton, I was begging to bring in LaRaque, but I think Peters is just as big and still is hungry to fight and do what he can to help the team. Andrew certainly has skill limitations, but he excites the crowd and his team and won't back down from anybody. Like I keep saying over and over again, I would much rather have Barnaby than Laraque. Barnaby can have a minor offensive impact as well as draw penalties. And I think he'll put fans in the seats while mentoring Peters in the art of pestering.

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Why not get both? And you wouldn't have to deal Tallinder for Carney. Campbell and draft choices would do it.

Then pull the trigger on Biron for Smith....

Kalinin / Zhitnik
Carney / Smith
Tallinder / Fitzpatrick

McKee, Patrick, hurt. Delmore useless.
Man does this look good after last night's sorry performance by the D.

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You can scratch Carney off the wishlist.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=73888

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You can scratch Carney off the wishlist.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=73888
Does not look like Gauthier is going anywhere either.

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On the other side of things, the Flames boss insists all the trade talk involving veteran Flames defencemen Denis Gauthier -- every week seems to bring fresh gossip or a reheated rumour -- is nonsense. "I've never talked to anyone about (trading) Denis Gauthier," he said. "Not once."
http://www.canada.com/calgary/sports...3-E83674AB343A

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"I know I said I wouldn't trade ________, but the offers were just too good."
-GM ____ _____ of the _______ ________.

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What's Laraque going to do? He hasn't been an imovable object in front of the net offensively and he doesn't fight anyone. When we only had Boulton, I was begging to bring in LaRaque, but I think Peters is just as big and still is hungry to fight and do what he can to help the team. Andrew certainly has skill limitations, but he excites the crowd and his team and won't back down from anybody. Like I keep saying over and over again, I would much rather have Barnaby than Laraque. Barnaby can have a minor offensive impact as well as draw penalties. And I think he'll put fans in the seats while mentoring Peters in the art of pestering.
Did you miss that Barnaby was a cancer and we went on an instant hot streak to the Cup right after dealing him?

Laraque couldn't fight in November because of an injury. On a pro-rated basis, he's fighting as much as he did last year. Laraque simply intimidates people because nobody can beat him. Ask Matt Johnson, who destroyed Peters but loses everytime against Laraque.

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Did you miss that Barnaby was a cancer and we went on an instant hot streak to the Cup right after dealing him?

Laraque couldn't fight in November because of an injury. On a pro-rated basis, he's fighting as much as he did last year. Laraque simply intimidates people because nobody can beat him. Ask Matt Johnson, who destroyed Peters but loses everytime against Laraque.
Laraque also said that he would be useless to any team that traded for him because he can only be happy playing in Edmonton.

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Laraque changed his story a month or so after saying that.

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Does not look like Gauthier is going anywhere either.



http://www.canada.com/calgary/sports...3-E83674AB343A
It's depressing how few stay at homers are available right now. Hopefully there will be one or two more sellers at the deadline.

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I watch every Oilers game and while Laraque is the best fighter in the league he's not the best enforcer. He'll only go with someone if they ask him. Its cool he follows the fighter code but he needs to just go out and beat the hell out of someone whether they want to go or not.Rarely does he instigate something or if someone is taking runs at his teammates does he do something bout it. Sometimes he does but not nearly enough. It's a shame because he can be a dominant force with the puck and does have some skill. He just lacks that aggressiveness that he should have.

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Did you miss that Barnaby was a cancer and we went on an instant hot streak to the Cup right after dealing him?

Laraque couldn't fight in November because of an injury. On a pro-rated basis, he's fighting as much as he did last year. Laraque simply intimidates people because nobody can beat him. Ask Matt Johnson, who destroyed Peters but loses everytime against Laraque.
Yes I do remember Barnaby causing a problem with the organization, but I think we would have made the run regardless.

Besides, I thought that his whole issue was the way they handled Ted Nolan. He was loyal to his coach and I don't see anything wrong with that. He still lives in Buffalo and I think he has grown up a little off the ice. If the problems with the club he had are gone, he would be a far better choice than LaRaque. And even if Barnaby didn't score he sure would sell tickets and Buffalo could use the money.

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