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10-18-2008, 09:42 AM
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Last 30sec of regulation

Did anyone else notice who Tom Renney put out with 30 seconds left in regulation with a face off in the offensive zone?

He put out a forward combination of Betts, Sjostrom and Drury. Why not put out the PlayStation line and try to win the game right there and now or some more offensive players?

Instead he put out 3 of his best defensive forwards to just make sure they went into overtime. I could understand if the face off was in the defensive zone but it was in the offensive zone. I just feel like that putting out that forward combination is not showing that he has confidence in his players to score.

The Rangers dominated the third period and what harm would it have been to put out a better offensive line with less than a minute in regulation. The Maple Leaves were not really getting shots against any line so I am not sure I understand why he decided to play it so safe and it could have cost them in overtime after the penalty was taken. I know they ended up winning but against a better team they need to have that killer instinct and with Renney putting out that combination of forward it just shows that they don't have it or he doesn't have confidence that they can score or have that killer instinct.

I am just pointing this out because I believe that it could cause problems in the future against a better team if they don't try to go for it when they have a chance and instead play it safe.

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10-18-2008, 09:46 AM
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When they come out with the win, you can't really argue the move.

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10-18-2008, 10:13 AM
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I'm usually all over Renney but when you have 30 shots, a few posts and dominate a game at home, you have to get that point. If we had given one up there it could have cost us 2-3 games. I'm thrilled Renney has FINALLY AFTER 3 YEARS found a final minute shutdown line. Jagr and Nylander didnt work for me nor did Orr and Hollweg...

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10-18-2008, 10:32 AM
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I didn't mind it. Drury and Sjostrom are still capable of putting one in and Betts is out there as the face off and defensive minded guy. Plus we got the W so it doesn't really matter. I could see complaining if they gave one up and we got 0 points from a game in which we dominated the better part of.

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10-18-2008, 11:01 AM
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He the only coach I know that just plays for ot.he been doing it for three years like when he played hollweg-betts-orr with 5 mins left down by 1 or tied with 30 seconds left. By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts

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10-18-2008, 11:11 AM
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He the only coach I know that just plays for ot.he been doing it for three years like when he played hollweg-betts-orr with 5 mins left down by 1 or tied with 30 seconds left. By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts
Yes, I think you probably are. How do you hate Blair Betts?

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10-18-2008, 11:14 AM
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By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts
You might be.

I don't get the hate for Betts. What does he do thats hurts the team? He is a great defensive forward and PKer. And he is pretty damn good on draws. That is his role, nothing more. I think people are expecting more from Betts than you are ever going to get.

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10-18-2008, 11:16 AM
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By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts
Probably. I am not sure why? He is 28, making just over 600,000, is one of the fastest skaters on the team, and is a great 4th liner/Penalty killer.

He is a UFA after this season and will probably attract a few teams.

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10-18-2008, 11:28 AM
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With 30 seconds left in a defensive effort that has yielded 0 goals from the opponent, YOU MUST get atleast 1 point out of the game in this league. Renney made the right choice, there was absolutely no need to try and win the game in regulation against a team out of our division especially. If he goes for the win and loses the whole effort is lost, get the 1st point, go hard for the second in OT.

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10-18-2008, 11:34 AM
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He the only coach I know that just plays for ot.he been doing it for three years like when he played hollweg-betts-orr with 5 mins left down by 1 or tied with 30 seconds left. By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts
If you hate shot blocking, penalty killing, hard working, face off winning 4th line centers then yea, I hate him too... What I really dont understand is how Betts is still in the league when he couldn't score 20 goals playing with superstars like Hollweg and Orr. Isn't playing with Hollweg like playing with Mario? Anyone could score 40 goals next to him...

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10-18-2008, 12:10 PM
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If you hate shot blocking, penalty killing, hard working, face off winning 4th line centers then yea, I hate him too... What I really dont understand is how Betts is still in the league when he couldn't score 20 goals playing with superstars like Hollweg and Orr. Isn't playing with Hollweg like playing with Mario? Anyone could score 40 goals next to him...
Lol its weird I don't hate the guy I dislike him don't get me wrong he a great fourth line player that's the reason he still here and moore and hollweg aren't but idk

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10-18-2008, 12:20 PM
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thats why teams should NOT be rewarded a point just for getting to OT. Getting to the shootout? fine (shootout shouldn't be around itself)

teams play for overtime

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10-18-2008, 12:56 PM
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the thing that annoys me a lot about renney is when we have a power play with 20 seconds left and he sends out the 4th line to take a face off.

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10-18-2008, 12:58 PM
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He the only coach I know that just plays for ot.he been doing it for three years like when he played hollweg-betts-orr with 5 mins left down by 1 or tied with 30 seconds left. By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts
Yea this kinda irks me as well. He's always played it safe just to get to OT. Not necessarily talking about the TO gam specifically but in general its kinda annoying that he doesn't instill more of a killer instinct and go for the win.

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10-18-2008, 01:22 PM
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Anyone else notice Renney used the 4th line for the second shift of each period last night? And people wonder why we can't score. What pissed me off most was the PP in the OT. I KNEW it was going to a shoot out. Rozsival wasn't going to shoot which means they would shadow on Redden. Gomez doesn't shoot, and Drury is in front. That all leads up to no shots. Zherdev needed to be out there, how does your arguably best sniper not get a shift in OT?

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10-18-2008, 02:26 PM
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I think mainly Renney wanted to nab the one point... On the 4 on 4... we have better players, more creative and with our list of play makers we would have looked very impressive (Minus that small 2 minute penalty) So like i said, he wanted the 1 guaranteed point and then was going to try to nab the last one in OT, i bet toronto is fuming that they even lost that one the way they were playing last night.

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10-18-2008, 02:58 PM
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He was making sure we got at least one point...rather have certain players out, who may have lead to the other team scoring. I'd take 1 point over none but luckily we got 2.

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10-18-2008, 03:06 PM
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He the only coach I know that just plays for ot.he been doing it for three years like when he played hollweg-betts-orr with 5 mins left down by 1 or tied with 30 seconds left. By the way am I the only one that hates blair betts
You're kidding me, right? You must not watch must hockey then. If this were a playoff game and scoring a goal was the difference between being eliminated or forcing a game 7, then you have a legit complaint. But considering it's a regular season game and we could have easily walked away with no points, I'll take the OT and guaranteed (at least) one point and run with it.

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10-18-2008, 04:37 PM
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the rangers are also a good OT and shoot-out team. he has faith that if it goes to OT or a shoot-out we will get the win. we couldnt put the puck in for 60 minutes so why not play it safe and take it to OT or the shoot-out and get a guaranteed win.

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10-18-2008, 04:46 PM
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You're kidding me, right? You must not watch must hockey then. If this were a playoff game and scoring a goal was the difference between being eliminated or forcing a game 7, then you have a legit complaint. But considering it's a regular season game and we could have easily walked away with no points, I'll take the OT and guaranteed (at least) one point and run with it.
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the rangers are also a good OT and shoot-out team. he has faith that if it goes to OT or a shoot-out we will get the win. we couldnt put the puck in for 60 minutes so why not play it safe and take it to OT or the shoot-out and get a guaranteed win.
Both of you are dead on. You MUST get a point at home when you've dominated all game especially when you are a great SO team...

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10-18-2008, 05:02 PM
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here is the real question, seeing that you are upset with the line thrown out there for the final 20 or 30 second, what was the rotation of lines the last three shifts? the guys you want out there, were they just used? people get all upset about the last change, but what happens if you extend players and you get out hustled by fresher legs? then what is the excuse?

they got a point, points are everything, you dont get extra points for style

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10-18-2008, 05:22 PM
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He wanted one point at least at home. The true fan in us wants a win and guys out there trying to score even with 5 seconds left, but when the season comes down to the last game, and it's make or break to get to the playoffs, this 1 point might just get them in.

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