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01-25-2009, 04:24 PM
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Is anyone else feeling Stone>Ross?

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Is anyone else feeling Stone>Ross?
I think we need to give Ross some more time to adjust with Vancouver. With Stone in Calgary and Ross in Vancouver they're on a fairly equal footing as far as the total quality of their team goes, instead of Ross being with a bottom feeder in Kamloops.

I don't want to make too quick of a judgement, but Ross being in Vancouver should be able to make it more clear.

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He had a goal and an assist, too. He's up to 13 points in 26 games.
A true Spartan killer!

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Hmmm....no likie the Maize and Blue?

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Just got around to watching the Michigan vs. State game. Summers was fantastic. Sean Burke was in attendance. The kid got a ton of love from the announcers and apparently Sean Burke had a lot of good things to say. I'm recording the game he's playing against Notre Dame, tonight. I'll probably watch it and the Sabres game tommorrow morning before the Super Bowl. Anyway, I'm getting really excited about this kid. He just does absolutely everything very well. He has to be one of the best D1 defensemen in the Nation.

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01-31-2009, 07:16 PM
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Just got around to watching the Michigan vs. State game. Summers was fantastic. Sean Burke was in attendance. The kid got a ton of love from the announcers and apparently Sean Burke had a lot of good things to say. I'm recording the game he's playing against Notre Dame, tonight. I'll probably watch it and the Sabres game tommorrow morning before the Super Bowl. Anyway, I'm getting really excited about this kid. He just does absolutely everything very well. He has to be one of the best D1 defensemen in the Nation.
& I have said it before, but honestly coming from RT that is a raving review. RT is exceptionally critical of Dmen and so if this kid is making that kind of impression on RT than I am equally a gitty, I canceled the regional sports channels on DirecTV after getting "burnt" but our little friend in Boston.

I hope he is in the fold next year, and two found it interesting b/c last year at this time we weren't so high on this kid. Amazing what a year can do. GO SUMMERS!!!!

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The only concern I had about Summers was when it was reported he was being moved to LW.

His progress has been on an aupward swing for about 4 years now.

Another good draft pick.

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The only concern I had about Summers was when it was reported he was being moved to LW.

His progress has been on an aupward swing for about 4 years now.

Another good draft pick.
I wonder how much this organization is going to miss Kurvers.

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I wonder how much this organization is going to miss Kurvers.
A TON!!!! I was pissed we let him go.

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I hope he is in the fold next year, and two found it interesting b/c last year at this time we weren't so high on this kid. Amazing what a year can do. GO SUMMERS!!!!
Although some of that is probably down to the high quality depth of prospects we had a year ago - unprecedented for this team. Summers is not flashy, just solid. I think its common knowledge the Coyotes wanted him to turn pro already, but he seems to be developing his game well.

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I wonder how much this organization is going to miss Kurvers.
Where did Kurvers go? I forget.. was it Tampa?

Why do you value him? I dont recall him being associated with a particularly good pick although I'm sure he's played his part in the improving scouting team. I'm quite happy with Steve Lyons being Assistant Director of amateur scouting.. he's our best scout as far as I know.

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Where did Kurvers go? I forget.. was it Tampa?

Why do you value him? I dont recall him being associated with a particularly good pick although I'm sure he's played his part in the improving scouting team. I'm quite happy with Steve Lyons being Assistant Director of amateur scouting.. he's our best scout as far as I know.
Kurvers just seemed to have a knack with selecting guys in mid-late rounds who look like they will develop into NHL players. I keep thinking that he was the one responsible for some of our more prominent NCAA selections but we seemed to rebuild our stockpile of young talent in the drafts that he oversaw. It's one thing to nail the 1st rounder(s) but it's the hitting of selections in the other rounds that help a franchise take steps forward (instead of having to trade for talent you develop it internally).

I think Maloney is an exceptional judge of talent as well.

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Kurvers just seemed to have a knack with selecting guys in mid-late rounds who look like they will develop into NHL players. I keep thinking that he was the one responsible for some of our more prominent NCAA selections but we seemed to rebuild our stockpile of young talent in the drafts that he oversaw. It's one thing to nail the 1st rounder(s) but it's the hitting of selections in the other rounds that help a franchise take steps forward (instead of having to trade for talent you develop it internally).

I think Maloney is an exceptional judge of talent as well.
I like TK, but I think you're giving him far too much credit. If you have to look at the the later rounds, it actually has more to do with the the quality of the overall staff. TK just ran the drafts before Keith was ready to takeover. But someone mentioned Lyons....now there's a good scout. Having him and Keith run things will continue to pay off.

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Summers is not flashy, just solid.
Actually, I would say he's both. I cannot exaggerate his skating ability. He is an amazing skater. He likes to go end to end, especially with the man advantage. He pinches constantly(I've yet to see him get burned for doing so). He's a very good playmaker, who's a patient and smart passer. His shot isn't exactly booming, but he consistantly gets it to the net. He doesn't miss wide or high a whole lot like Derek Morris(who has a cannon), and he doesn't put right into the shins of defenders like Jovo(also the proud owner of a big cannon) is constantly doing. He won't score a whole lot of goals by way of his point shots, but any teammates of his around the net will be given fantastic opportunities to do so, as a result of them. He's not Dion Phaneuf, but he's got a definite element of flash to him.

Obviously, at the NHL level, he's not going to be able to pinch as much, he won't gain the zone so easily, and his shot probably won't get through quite as consistantly, but his game is top-notch, all-around, at the D1 level. Quite honestly, I think he'd be a big upgrade on David Hale, right now. I think if he were used in a limited role, like Yandle last season, he'd actually be asset to the team. I think even now he'd be capable of contributing positively to our power play. He holds the line like an NHLer, and has that sneaky effective little shot from the point. He's a pretty big kid, too, and at least seems very, very mature beyond his years. He appears to be a bright kid with a lot of confidence.

I'm no scout, but I do think he's going to be a valuable NHL defenseman for some time. I don't think he'll ever be an All-Star, but he looks like he's going to be a good one. I would say he compares some what to Derek Morris, only with Yandle's skating ability, and less of a penchant to mix it up.


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Actually, I would say he's both. I cannot exaggerate his skating ability. He is an amazing skater. He likes to go end to end, especially with the man advantage. He pinches constantly(I've yet to see him get burned for doing so). He's a very good playmaker, who's a patient and smart passer. His shot isn't exactly booming, but he consistantly gets it to the net. He doesn't miss wide or high a whole lot like Derek Morris(who has a cannon), and he doesn't put right into the shins of defenders like Jovo(also the proud owner of a big cannon) is constantly doing. He won't score a whole lot of goals by way of his point shots, but any teammates of his around the net will be given fantastic opportunities to do so, as a result of them. He's not Dion Phaneuf, but he's got a definite element of flash to him.

Obviously, at the NHL level, he's not going to be able to pinch as much, he won't gain the zone so easily, and his shot probably won't get through quite as consistantly, but his game is top-notch, all-around, at the D1 level. Quite honestly, I think he'd be a big upgrade on David Hale, right now. I think if he were used in a limited role, like Yandle last season, he'd actually be asset to the team. I think even now he'd be capable of contributing positively to our power play. He holds the line like an NHLer, and has that sneaky effective little shot from the point. He's a pretty big kid, too, and at least seems very, very mature beyond his years. He appears to be bright kid with a lot of confidence.

I'm not scout, but I do think he's going to be a valuable NHL defenseman for some time. I don't think he'll ever be an All-Star, but he looks like he's going to be a good one. I would say he compares some what to Derek Morris, only with Yandle's skating ability, and less of a penchant to mix it up.
A better skating Keith Carney?

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A better skating Keith Carney?
No, not really. The whole point of the post is that he's got some flash. Carney was anti-flash. He never shot the puck, didn't have particularly good playmaking ability, he didn't ever hit anybody, and I doubt he ever took the puck end to end even one time in his entire NHL career. I would say Summers is a bit more similar to Keith Ballard, but with the volume turned down just a little bit.

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No, not really. The whole point of the post is that he's got some flash. Carney was anti-flash. He never shot the puck, didn't have particularly good playmaking ability, he didn't ever hit anybody, and I doubt he ever took the puck end to end even one time in his entire NHL career. I would say Summers is a bit more similar to Keith Ballard, but with the volume turned down just a little bit.
I always admired Carney for his time in Phoenix. He was a solid #3/#4 D Man who rarely made a mistake. I agree that Summers has a better skill set but I still see him as a #2-#4 D Man in this league.

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I always admired Carney for his time in Phoenix. He was a solid #3/#4 D Man who rarely made a mistake. I agree that Summers has a better skill set but I still see him as a #2-#4 D Man in this league.
Yeah, I'm guessing #3-#5 for Summers. So, I suppose, in that regard, he and Carney are similar. Stylistically, though, they are very dissimilar. Also, don't get me wrong, I really like Carney, too.

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he sounds like a bret hedican clone to me. a guy that can skate like the wind, play some solid defense but don't rely on him to QB your powerplay. a reliable defenceman.

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he sounds like a bret hedican clone to me. a guy that can skate like the wind, play some solid defense but don't rely on him to QB your powerplay. a reliable defenceman.
I'd be ok with that. As long as he's not the next David Tanabe. Great skater and... um.....er....that was about it.

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I'd be ok with that. As long as he's not the next David Tanabe. Great skater and... um.....er....that was about it.
oh man... i remember back in 03-04 all of those prediction threads where everyone (myself included) were predicting tanabe was going to break out and score 50 points. i don't even think he ended up playing 50 games before a season ending injury and then... well... yeah...

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oh man... i remember back in 03-04 all of those prediction threads where everyone (myself included) were predicting tanabe was going to break out and score 50 points. i don't even think he ended up playing 50 games before a season ending injury and then... well... yeah...
He was looking great that year. Too bad for a guy of his skating ability to tear his knee up.

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