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10-28-2008, 01:00 PM
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10-28-2008, 01:03 PM
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Considering Mikko Koivu has been mentioned about 50 times already, I think you've invalidating your own point (first sentence) by naming him yet again.

I'll go with Keith Ballard. Didn't know much about him when he was in Phoenix but the more I watch him, the more I can see why Florida would have wanted him so badly.
If you go back to the previous 6 page "most underrated" thread, Mikko gets maybe 1 or 2 mentions. The only reason he is being mentioned now is because a) they just played a nationally (US) televised game in which he had three points and the color guy (Eddie O) said he was the most underrated player in the league about 50 times.... b) Gaborik is out for the Wild, so Koivu is their number one go to offensive weapon - and he has responded with top 5 league wide point production.

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10-28-2008, 01:07 PM
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Why would you give Kesler the Selke over Koivu? Koivu plays the PK, PP, and is a top line center for the Wild. He is much better offensively than Kesler, and on defence I would argue he is also better. I am not saying Koivu should get the Selke - but I am just saying that he should get it before Kesler.

The Selke is a tough award to award to anyone. There are a whole lot of excellent two way players in the league. It is really hard to quantatatively judge who is the better defensive forward.
John Madden will win the Selke this year....I think someone who needs to be mentioned in the Selke race is Morrow. He is a very underrated 2-way player.

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Mikko is starting to get his name out there but playing in a non-hockey market makes him ess noticeable.

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If you go back to the previous 6 page "most underrated" thread, Mikko gets maybe 1 or 2 mentions. The only reason he is being mentioned now is because a) they just played a nationally (US) televised game in which he had three points and the color guy (Eddie O) said he was the most underrated player in the league about 50 times.... b) Gaborik is out for the Wild, so Koivu is their number one go to offensive weapon - and he has responded with top 5 league wide point production.
I don't see what your point is...I'm not saying Koivu has never been underrated. He used to be, for sure. But I think now he's getting his due diligence and this topic is proof of that.

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If you look back and read you will see about 10 other people say that

For goalies, I've felt Miller has been underrated alot but not as much this year (he has a .940 save percentage or something)

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10-28-2008, 01:19 PM
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I don't see what your point is...I'm not saying Koivu has never been underrated. He used to be, for sure. But I think now he's getting his due diligence and this topic is proof of that.
So being mentioned in a "most underrated" thread shows that he's not underrated at all.. hmm..

I'm going with Crosby.

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10-28-2008, 01:54 PM
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Martin St. Louis

Hart Trophy winner, Art Ross Trophy winner, Stanley Cup winner, World Cup winner, and usually around 80-100 points.

Yet, most people probably wouldn't even have him on their list of top 20 or top 25 forwards, when he should be in almost everyone's top 15.

Suffice to say that a lot less accomplished players get a lot more hype around here.

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10-28-2008, 01:56 PM
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John Madden will win the Selke this year....I think someone who needs to be mentioned in the Selke race is Morrow. He is a very underrated 2-way player.
Most of the stars forwards could be mentioned in the Selke Race...

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So being mentioned in a "most underrated" thread shows that he's not underrated at all.. hmm..

I'm going with Crosby.
Not when 50 different people call him underrated, no.

In short I guess you could say I disagree with all the people naming Koivu.

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1. Savard
2. Gonchar
3. Koivu

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I think people have slept a little on Dustin Brown since he was drafted.

I would rather have this guy ahead of Mike Richards.

He deserves to be the captain of the Kings and I'm happy they rewarded him.

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and he has responded with top 5 league wide point production.
I think it's top 3, with just a point behind Semin and Malkin with less games played as well. He has the best point-per-game ratio in the league among players who have played more than 1 or 2 games.

Pretty good, I hope he keeps it up. With his current pace, he would end up with approx. 152 points. 140 of those points would be assists

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As a Canucks fan, I feel compelled to mention Alex Burrows, Alex Edler and Ryan Kesler.

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How come a lot of people are mentioning 3rd-line forwards or 2nd-pairing defensemen on their favourite team?

The only way players like that can be under-rated is if people think they completely suck and shouldn't even be in the NHL. And that is not the case for a lot of players who have been listed.

The original poster's suggestion of Girardi is a prime example. Everyone knows he is a serviceable defenseman. Does the OP want him to be thought of as more than this? Because if so, then perhaps the OP over-rates Girardi, rather than the rest of hus under-rating him.

I have also seen guys like Burrows, Pavelski, Murray, etc. mentioned. How are these guys under-rated? They are viewed as serviceable players by most people, and that is exactly what they are. Viewing them as anything more would be over-rating them.

This thread should be about either:

(a) Elite/star players who are viewed as merely good or above-average players.

(b) Serviceable players who are viewed as completely awful players.

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My vote goes to......... drum roll please.............


Dan Girardi
acutally, its the New York Islanders` Mark Streit.

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Mikko Koivu. For an underrated career, Brunette for certain.

Also Robyn Regehr...never seems to get a lot of attention, but Calgary is just ghastly whenever he's out of the lineup.

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10-28-2008, 04:36 PM
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Homer vote: Vlasic

Andrew brunette.

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How come a lot of people are mentioning 3rd-line forwards or 2nd-pairing defensemen on their favourite team?

The only way players like that can be under-rated is if people think they completely suck and shouldn't even be in the NHL. And that is not the case for a lot of players who have been listed.

The original poster's suggestion of Girardi is a prime example. Everyone knows he is a serviceable defenseman. Does the OP want him to be thought of as more than this? Because if so, then perhaps the OP over-rates Girardi, rather than the rest of hus under-rating him.

I have also seen guys like Burrows, Pavelski, Murray, etc. mentioned. How are these guys under-rated? They are viewed as serviceable players by most people, and that is exactly what they are. Viewing them as anything more would be over-rating them.

This thread should be about either:

(a) Elite/star players who are viewed as merely good or above-average players.

(b) Serviceable players who are viewed as completely awful players.
Seriously? Pavelski and Murray are merely "serviceable?" I don't know about everyone else, but you certainly are underrating them quite a bit.

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10-28-2008, 05:05 PM
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Agreed.

Brunette and Ray Whitney.. every year in 1-year pools.. I always used to get them in the last rounds.

Brunette could of been an 1,000 point player had he not been stuck on expansion teams for his entire career. He'll probably hit about 700 before he retires.
Let's not get ridiculous. Brunette is under-rated, but he is a 50-65 point player, with one great season playing on the line of a 100 point Joe Sakic.

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