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02-29-2004, 02:32 AM
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Jersey - Montreal proposal - L@@K!!!

i was thinking Rivet and Perreault for Friesen

Jersey gets a good defenceman(25 min. a game) to replace the broken leg guy(forget his name) and i remember hearing somewhere on these boards that they had "some" interest in Perreault.

Montreal gets a winger capable of playing on one of the 2 first lines.

Before flaming me that Jersey gets robbed blind, keep in mind the playoffs are near
and Jersey's defencemen are dropping like flies.

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Not an unreasonable proposal by any means. If I were GM, I'd give serious consideration to not qualifying Friesen at 3 million this summer.

If that offer were on the table and I knew Rafalski was out awhile, I'd probably take it and thank Friesen for his efforts last season.

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I think a legitimate top 6 forward is worth more a bit more than that.

I think Perreault could be had for a pick or mid level prospect, so to give up a top 6 guy seems to be a bit much

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Not an unreasonable proposal by any means. If I were GM, I'd give serious consideration to not qualifying Friesen at 3 million this summer.

If that offer were on the table and I knew Rafalski was out awhile, I'd probably take it and thank Friesen for his efforts last season.

Well Rivet and Perraults salary would be higher wouldn't it?

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Perrault free agent after the season end!!

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Well Rivet and Perraults salary would be higher wouldn't it?

so New Jersey keeps Rivet, and compensation pick for losing Perrault, Salary could balance out!!

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Well Rivet and Perraults salary would be higher wouldn't it?
Short term yes, but since we're roughly 80% done with the season, most of the difference has been paid off. Perreault's deal is up after this year, Rivet is signed til 2007. So long term it'd be Rivet for Friesen. Like I said before, I'm not sure I'd qualify Friesen for what he's given me this year.

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With Sourays injury, it doesn't make sense for the Habs to be trading away one of their top4 D men. I would imagine Gainey would be looking for a Defenceman before a forward at this point in the palyoff race.

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That is brutal for the Devils. A legit top 6 guy in Friesen for a good face off guy with a bloated salary, and a guy who would be a 5 or 6 on them with a bloated salary.


How bout Sean Brown, and Grant Marshal for Zednik

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That is brutal for the Devils. A legit top 6 guy in Friesen for a good face off guy with a bloated salary, and a guy who would be a 5 or 6 on them with a bloated salary.


How bout Sean Brown, and Grant Marshal for Zednik
I wouldnt touch both offers !
Rivet is very underrated(just like Brisebois) on this board !
while Perreault .. welll you know.. it's perreault

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How bout Sean Brown, and Grant Marshal for Zednik
for those two you can get a nice toasted hotdog + ketchup + future considerations(probly mustard if brown gets 3 points next year)

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I've always liked Friesen, but right now the Habs can't afford to deal a d-man, with Souray out and a few of the other guys nursing aches and pains.

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Friesen is a game breaker anyone would want him.

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I would rather DeMarchi then trading Friesen for Rivet and Perreault

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Friesen is a game breaker anyone would want him.
i wouldnt call him a game breaker but he is a quality forward to say the least

hows dimarchi?

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Friesen is a game breaker anyone would want him.
Yea, 14 goals and 28 pts. That's one hell of a game breaker. He's a solid 2nd liner, who has never quite lived up to his potential as a bonafide 1st liner, but let's not go overboard here. As per usual, a player is mentioned in a proposal involving the Habs and the hyperbole starts to fly.

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i wouldnt call him a game breaker but he is a quality forward to say the least

hows dimarchi?
He doesn't have the experience Rivet has but he does have all the tools to become an effective dmen in the leauge. Great speed, mean, checks alot, hard shot, nice passing.

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for those two you can get a nice toasted hotdog + ketchup + future considerations(probly mustard if brown gets 3 points next year)
He just reversed the orginal proposal to prove a point. I was coming here to say Rupp and Brown for Zednik

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That is brutal for the Devils. A legit top 6 guy in Friesen for a good face off guy with a bloated salary, and a guy who would be a 5 or 6 on them with a bloated salary.


How bout Sean Brown, and Grant Marshal for Zednik
Am i to infer from your "counter proposal" that you are comparing Sean Brown to Craig Rivet? What a joke.

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Yea, 14 goals and 28 pts. That's one hell of a game breaker. He's a solid 2nd liner, who has never quite lived up to his potential as a bonafide 1st liner, but let's not go overboard here. As per usual, a player is mentioned in a proposal involving the Habs and the hyperbole starts to fly.
You said it.

Sure Rivet's salary is a bit bloated...but that's the price you have to pay to keep a young UFA.

Ever since about the 20 game mark in the season, Rivet has been very very solid...solid defensively, contributes offensively, and plays a mean game. He's also adapted quite well to playing LD.

I doubt the Habs have any interest in moving him.

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Yea, 14 goals and 28 pts. That's one hell of a game breaker. He's a solid 2nd liner, who has never quite lived up to his potential as a bonafide 1st liner, but let's not go overboard here. As per usual, a player is mentioned in a proposal involving the Habs and the hyperbole starts to fly.
Jeff Friesen is an ultra streaky scorer, and when he's on (which he usually is in the playoffs), he's probably as good as an average 1st line left wing. He scored 10 goals in the playoffs last year including the backbreaker against Ottawa. He's also very fast and very physical. A sort of pocket powerforward.

No doubt that he's sucked balls so far this season, but if he puts up another 10 spot in the playoffs (or even 8 or 9), he'll be qualified.

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Jeff Friesen is an ultra streaky scorer, and when he's on (which he usually is in the playoffs), he's probably as good as an average 1st line left wing. He scored 10 goals in the playoffs last year including the backbreaker against Ottawa. He's also very fast and very physical. A sort of pocket powerforward.

No doubt that he's sucked balls so far this season, but if he puts up another 10 spot in the playoffs (or even 8 or 9), he'll be qualified.

Career Playoff Stats
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW GT Shots Pct
1994-1995 Sharks 11 1 5 6 -9 4 0 0 0 0 21 4.8
1997-1998 Sharks 6 0 1 1 -1 2 0 0 0 0 9 0
1998-1999 Sharks 6 2 2 4 -1 14 1 0 0 0 20 10
1999-2000 Sharks 11 2 2 4 -4 10 0 0 0 0 22 9.1
2002-2003 Devils 24 10 4 14 10 6 1 0 4 0 46 21.7

NHL Totals 58 15 14 29 -5 36 2 0 4 0 118 12.7


I'm not sure what "ON" means, but before last years playoff, Friesen wasn't exactly putting up playoff MVP numbers either. If he can duplicate last years numbers, he may be worth a look.

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Jeff Friesen is an ultra streaky scorer, and when he's on (which he usually is in the playoffs), he's probably as good as an average 1st line left wing. He scored 10 goals in the playoffs last year including the backbreaker against Ottawa. He's also very fast and very physical. A sort of pocket powerforward.

No doubt that he's sucked balls so far this season, but if he puts up another 10 spot in the playoffs (or even 8 or 9), he'll be qualified.
Make no mistake, I like Friesen, always have. I just think he is a tad overrated.

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That is brutal for the Devils. A legit top 6 guy in Friesen for a good face off guy with a bloated salary, and a guy who would be a 5 or 6 on them with a bloated salary.


How bout Sean Brown, and Grant Marshal for Zednik
Thats brutal. Brown and Marshall for Zed. I dont think so.. I dont even know if i would do the Rivet/Perreult for Friesen. Right now I would have to say the Friesen is overrated. He has talent but cant seem to put it together. Oh and how is he a top 6 but Yannick isnt? Over the last 6 years their numbers are almost identical. YP has 138 goals 151 assists and 289 points, compared to JF 133 goals 158 assists and 291 points. Plus YP wins a lot of faceoffs and probably doesnt get nearly as much ice time. Now I am not saying that one is better than the other, i m just saying that both have value and that the trade is not as bad as you are making it out to be.

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How about Zednik for Colin White and Jay Pandolfo?

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How about Zednik for Colin White and Jay Pandolfo?
How about we just stop all Mon/NJ proposals?

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