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Ohlund for Rozsival and Prucha

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11-07-2008, 12:46 PM
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Ohlund for Rozsival and Prucha

I would do this as a Ranger fan

getting the Swede Ohlund at 3.5 and he only has one yr left.......then Sign Sundin

Dealing Prucha 1.6 and Rozy 5 and bringing in Ohlund gives enough for Sundin at about 4.5

Throw in Rissmiller or release him

Vancouver would have a solid D man locked up and they still have cap space left. Prucha gives them a forward they can try with the Sedins

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11-07-2008, 12:52 PM
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As a Canuck fan, I'd probably walk away. Roszival, despite struggling this year, has been very good for the past couple of seasons. But again, this appears to be a case of NYR trying to dump it's crud for Vancouver's wealth. Prucha isn't the answer in the top-six for Vancouver, and it appears the majority of his best play was the result of being paired with Jaromir Jagr.

Ohlund would only be dealt for a top-six guy that could step in right away and make a difference. And I don't think any of those types of guys on NYR would be available for trade...I don't see these two teams as ideal trading partners.

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11-07-2008, 12:54 PM
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Yeah, as a Canucks fan I'm not even slightly interested in this deal.

If you want to dump salary, trade us Gomez for Ohlund. We'll even throw in a pick.

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11-07-2008, 12:55 PM
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Prucha has value?

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11-07-2008, 01:04 PM
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no thanks.

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11-07-2008, 01:40 PM
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Haha, that's brutal. I'd prefer the Canucks re-sign Ohlund at $5M than trade him for Rozsival. Prucha doesn't interest me in the slightest.

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The Canucks have no interest in helping the Rangers sign Sundin.

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The Canucks have no interest in helping the Rangers sign Sundin.
what if Sundin gives them no choice.........Rangers will make room, someone will take Rozsival if he is the guy they chose to move.......not a given

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11-07-2008, 02:13 PM
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Rather have Ohlund at $5 million than Rozival at $5 million so I'd rather resign Ohlund.

We have a glut of fringe top 6 forwards... Don't need to add another one in Prucha. We need a legitimate to 6 center.

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11-07-2008, 02:19 PM
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what about Prucha for Pyatt?

His brother Tom is already in the Rangers' system.

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what about Prucha for Pyatt?

His brother Tom is already in the Rangers' system.


I don't if I would or would not do this trade. I'm not sure why Rangers would either.

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11-07-2008, 02:27 PM
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I don't if I would or would not do this trade. I'm not sure why Rangers would either.
The "Niedermayer Effect"?

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I don't if I would or would not do this trade. I'm not sure why Rangers would either.
Neither one has accomplished much for their respective teams in the last season and a half, so I think they could benefit from a change of scenery.

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Neither one has accomplished much for their respective teams in the last season and a half, so I think they could benefit from a change of scenery.
Seconded.

Honestly, Pyatt has never played worse for the 'Nucks. You can point to the stats and try to argue it, but all one has to do is watch his on-ice play to see that he's regressed. He's the only one on the team that makes me bite my nails when he takes hold of the puck. I should hope our management wasn't expecting anything more than a 3rd/4th line grinder who could chip in the odd goal and provide some occasional grit.

When will the Pyatt faithful realize that he's a 1st round bust?

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When will the Pyatt faithful realize that he's a 1st round bust?
Everyone knows Pyatt is a 1st round bust. Can he carry the puck or pass effectively? No. Can he even score 0.5 PPG? Probably not.

What he is, is a solid contributor who can shoot the puck ok, hit, check, fight when it's necessary, contribute to the cycle and not look too out of place on a mediocre scoring line.

I feel that Pyatt's last couple of games have been pretty good, for what he is.

I don't know much about Prucha but the book on him in general is that if he's not scoring he's not contributing - and we have enough of those types of players already.

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If there was a better forward going to Vancouver then I would say this deal would happen but Rozsival and Prucha for Ohlund is to little return for Vancouver.

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When will the Pyatt faithful realize that he's a 1st round bust?
The Pyatt faithful don't see Pyatt as some guy who's on his way to living up to the first-round potential.

The Pyatt faithful see a 1.5 million dollar utility player who can play on any line, forecheck, win battles along the boards, play defensively responsible hockey including the penalty kill, bring a physical balance (even if he doesn't throw giant open-ice hits he's still a large body that's hard to move and strong on the puck), and generate offense at a decent pace, for what he gets paid.

People hate him for two reasons:

a) Because Canucks' depth issues have him playing in a top six role, and he's not a top six player, so they have determined that Pyatt is the reason we don't have depth;
b) Because his skill set is not easily noticeable, he's an easy target for untrained eyes who are more drawn to pretty skating, deking, and hitting than responsible, effective play.

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I think it's high time Rangers fans realize that Prucha has no trade value whatsoever.

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The Pyatt faithful don't see Pyatt as some guy who's on his way to living up to the first-round potential.

The Pyatt faithful see a 1.5 million dollar utility player who can play on any line, forecheck, win battles along the boards, play defensively responsible hockey including the penalty kill, bring a physical balance (even if he doesn't throw giant open-ice hits he's still a large body that's hard to move and strong on the puck), and generate offense at a decent pace, for what he gets paid.

People hate him for two reasons:

a) Because Canucks' depth issues have him playing in a top six role, and he's not a top six player, so they have determined that Pyatt is the reason we don't have depth;
b) Because his skill set is not easily noticeable, he's an easy target for untrained eyes who are more drawn to pretty skating, deking, and hitting than responsible, effective play.
So in other words, the "untrained eyes" should disregard his numerous attempts to throw a sublime pass in the offensive zone that he has no business making; thereby turning his "responsible, effective play" into something that causes way too many turnovers and scoring opportunities for the opposing team?

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This trade comes down to who is better...Roszival or Ohlund? Ohlund will likely get a similar contract...

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11-07-2008, 03:30 PM
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This trade comes down to who is better...Roszival or Ohlund? Ohlund will likely get a similar contract...
Ohlund, but not by much.

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11-07-2008, 03:34 PM
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Prucha + Rozsival is basically a 6.6M salary dump

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Since Ouellet did not get picked up off re-entry waivers then I assume Prucha has little to negative value.

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Why would Vancouver trade Ohlund for a guy who costs more, but doesn't do more, and a guy who could be on waivers tomorrow.

Never mind the fact that Vancouver seems to be a front runner for Sundin, and this would sabotage that?

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11-07-2008, 04:48 PM
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Why does Ohlund do this? He has a NTC and I'm pretty sure he wants to stay in Vancouver.

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