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Theoretical Expansion Draft [HELP NEEDED FOR DRAFT, ALL UNPROTECTED LISTS COMPLETE]

I was reading about Kari Lehtonen reportedly being available and remembered about the Thrashers' expansion draft.

Theoretically, if the NHL were to expand to two more teams (one would result in an unbalance between conferences), what would their rosters be right now? I'd like to make an expansion draft for two teams.

Has this been done before?

I'll heed a warning saying that this is a somewhat big project and I'd like a bunch of people to help split the workload. Who's interested?

We'd have to determine the players that all 30 teams would protect, and then select the best players available for two teams.

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Available Players [30/30 completed]:
Anaheim: Jonas Hiller, David LeNeveu, Bret Hedican, Nathan McIver, Brian Salcido, Brendan Morrison, Todd Marchant, Brad May, George Parros, Brad Larsen, Drew Miller
Atlanta: Johan Hedberg, Eric Boulton, Chris Thorburn, Jim Slater, Eric Perrin, Joe Motzko, Colin Stuart, Junior Lessard, Garnet Exelby
Boston: Manny Fernandez, Shane Hnidy, Petteri Nokelainen, Stephane Yelle, Shawn Thornton
Buffalo: Matt Ellis, Marek Zagrapan, Michael Funk, Mathieu Darche, Dylan Hunter, Mark Mancari, Adam Dennis, Tyler Bouck, Mike Card, Jimmy Bonneau, Colton Fretter, Patrick Lalime, Colin Murphy, Teppo Numminen, Nathan Paetsch, Ales Kotalik, Tim Connolly, Maxim Afinogenov, Adam Mair, Andrew Peters
Calgary: Curtis McElhinney, Craig Conroy, Andre Roy, Wayne Primeau, Eric Nystrom, Adrian Aucoin
Carolina: Michael Leighton, Frantisek Kaberle, Niclas Wallin, Josef Melichar, Ryan Bayda, Wade Brookbank, Dan LaCouture, Chad LaRose, Michael Ryan
Chicago: Nikolai Khabibulin, Aaron Johnson, Brent Sopel, Scott Walker, Adam Burish, Ben Eager, Craig Adams, Colin Fraser
Colorado:Tyler Arnason, Ben Guite, Brian Willsie, Brett Clark, Daniel Tjarnqvist, Andrew Raycroft
Jason Bacashihua
Columbus: Daniel LaCosta, Fredrik Norrena, Ole-Kristian Tollefsen, Christian Backman, Fredrik Modin, Jiri Novotny, Alexandre Picard, Raffi Torres
Dallas: Tobias Stephan, Philippe Boucher, Doug Janik, Joel Lundqvist, Krys Barch, Toby Peterson, Brandon Crombeen
Detroit:Ty Conklin, Jimmy Howard, Chris Chelios, Brett Lebda, Andreas Lilja, Derek Meech, Kris Draper, Kirk Maltby, Darren McCarty, Tomas Kopecky, Aaron Downey
Edmonton: Dwayne Roloson, Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers, Fernando Pisani, Steve Staios, Jason Strudwick, Zack Stortini, Marc-Andre Pouliot, Steve MacIntyre
Florida: Radek Dvorak, Brett McLean, Ville Peltonen, Wade Belak, Drew Larman, Karlis Skratins, Rory Fitzpatrick, Jason Cullimore, Noah Welch, Martin Lojek, Craig Anderson, Chris Beckford-Tseu
Los Angeles: Jason LaBarbera, Derek Armstrong, Denis Gauthier
Minnesota: Krys Kolanos, Derek Boogaard, Craig Weller, Martin Skoula, Marek Zidlicky, Marc-Andre Bergeron, Tomas Mojzis, Owen Nolan
Montreal: Steve Bégin, Maxim Lapierre, Mathieu Dandenault, Georges Laraque, Tom Kostopoulos, Francis Bouillon, Patrice Brisebois, Kyle Chipchura, Marc Denis
Nashville: Rich Peverley, Vernon Fiddler, Radek Bonk, Greg De Vries, Ville Koistinen, Greg Zanon
New Jersey: Kevin Weekes, Sheldon Brookbank, Mike Mottau, David Clarkson, Jay Pandolfo, Bobby Holik, Michael Rupp
New York Islanders: Jeff Tambellini, Andy Hilbert, Bruno Gervais, Thomas Pock, Tim Jackman, Joey MacDonald
New York Rangers: Stephen Valiquette, Dmitri Kalinin, Patrick Rissmiller, Fredrik Sjostrom, Blair Betts, Colton Orr, Dan Fritsche
Ottawa: Jason Smith, Dean McAmmond, Luke Richardson, Shean Donovan, Martin Gerber, Ryan Shannon, Jeff Glass, Brendan Bell, Josh Hennessy, Tomas Kudelka, Matt Carkner, Drew Fata, Danny Bois
Philadelphia: Antero Niittymaki, Mike Knuble, Aaron Asham, Andrew Alberts, Lasse Kukkonen, J.S. Aubin, Derian Hatcher, Mike Rathje
Phoenix: Mikael Tellqvist, Joel Perrault, Brian McGrattan, Todd Fedoruk, David Hale, Matt Jones
Pittsburgh: Dany Sabourin, Matt Cooke, Michael Zigomantis, Eric Godard, Paul Bissonette, Darryl Sydor, Mark Eaton
San Jose: Brian Boucher, Brad Lukowich, Alexei Semenov, Marcel Goc, Jody Shelley, Jeremy Roenick
St. Louis: Chris Mason, Marek Schwarz, Mike Weaver, Andy Wozniewski, Dan Hinote, Yan Stastny, David Koci, Brad Winchester
Tampa Bay: Ryan Craig, Chris Gratton, Matt Pettinger, Mark Recchi, Gary Roberts, Brandon Bochenski, Wyatt Smith, Marek Malik, Janne Niskala, Andrew Hutchinson, Olaf Kolzig
Toronto: Curtis Joseph, Jonas Frogren, Carlo Colaiacovo, Ian White, Jason Blake, Jamal Mayers, Ryan Hollweg, Dominic Moore
Vancouver: Curtis Sanford, Shane O'Brien, Rob Davison, Lawrence Nycholat, Jason Krog, Taylor Pyatt, Darcy Hordichuk, Rick Rypien, Mike Brown
Washington: Jose Theodore, Michael Nylander, Chris Clark, Donald Brashear, Matt Bradley, Brian Pothier, John Erskine

Expansion Draft:
Two of these three should be chosen: Las Vegas, Kansas City, Winnipeg. I NEED OPINIONS!

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I was reading about Kari Lehtonen reportedly being available and remembered about the Thrashers' expansion draft.

Theoretically, if the NHL were to expand to two more teams (one would result in an unbalance between conferences), what would their rosters be right now? I'd like to make an expansion draft for two teams.

Has this been done before?

I'll heed a warning saying that this is a somewhat big project and I'd like a bunch of people to help split the workload. Who's interested?

We'd have to determine the players that all 30 teams would protect, and then select the best players available for two teams.
First of all, you would need to assemble a list of the players the team would protect...
before that, you would need to establish how that works out, but I would be willing to help

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2000's Expansion Draft:

26 of the 28 teams existing in the league at the time of the draft were each allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards. The Nashville Predators and Atlanta Thrashers had their entire rosters protected, as they were the two newest franchises in the league.

For teams protecting only one goaltender, there was no experience requirement for those left unprotected. For teams protecting two goaltenders, each goaltender left unprotected must have appeared in either 10 NHL games in the 1999–2000 season or 25 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. A goaltender had to be in net for at least 31 minutes in each game for the game to be counted against these totals.

At least one defenceman left unprotected by each team had to have appeared in at least 40 games in the 1999–2000 season or 70 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. At least two forwards left unprotected by each team had to have met the same requirements.

52 players were chosen in the draft, two from each participating franchise. Only one goaltender or one defensemen could be selected from each franchise. Both the Blue Jackets and the Wild were to use their first 24 selections on three goaltenders, eight defensemen, and thirteen forwards. The final two picks for each team could be any position.

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2000's Expansion Draft:

26 of the 28 teams existing in the league at the time of the draft were each allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards. The Nashville Predators and Atlanta Thrashers had their entire rosters protected, as they were the two newest franchises in the league.

For teams protecting only one goaltender, there was no experience requirement for those left unprotected. For teams protecting two goaltenders, each goaltender left unprotected must have appeared in either 10 NHL games in the 1999–2000 season or 25 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. A goaltender had to be in net for at least 31 minutes in each game for the game to be counted against these totals.

At least one defenceman left unprotected by each team had to have appeared in at least 40 games in the 1999–2000 season or 70 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. At least two forwards left unprotected by each team had to have met the same requirements.

52 players were chosen in the draft, two from each participating franchise. Only one goaltender or one defensemen could be selected from each franchise. Both the Blue Jackets and the Wild were to use their first 24 selections on three goaltenders, eight defensemen, and thirteen forwards. The final two picks for each team could be any position.
First of all, for the sake of the project, what should the 2 cities be that we move to (this is just so we have names to the players to, it doesnt really matter)
Secondly, the protected rosters of ALL the teams will need to be assembled

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Indeed, we must make protection lists for all teams.

The two cities we'd move to.. hmm...

Kansas City
Las Vegas
Hamilton
Winnipeg
Oklahoma City

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Do minor league players have to be protected?

The following does not include minor league players. I included Bergfors as a minor league player

one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards

The Devils - protected

G) Martin Brodeur
D) Johnny Oduya
D) Paul Martin
D) Bryce Salvador
D) Andy Greene
D) Anssi Salmela
f) Zach Parise
f) Travis Zajac
f) Brian Rolston
f) Patrik Elias
f) Brian Gionta
f) Dainius Zubrus
f) John Madden
f) Petr Vrana
f) Jamie Langenbrunner

So that leaves these players unprotected
G - Kevin Weekes
D - Sheldon Brookbank
D - Colin White
D - Mike Mottau
F - David Clarkson
F - Jay Pandolfo
F - Mike Rupp
F - Bobby Holik

I think Las Vegas and Winnipeg should be used.


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Yeah, only major league stuff.

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Indeed, we must make protection lists for all teams.

The two cities we'd move to.. hmm...

Kansas City
Las Vegas
Hamilton
Winnipeg
Oklahoma City
Seattle and Las Vegas IMO

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For The Senators [1 goalie, 9 forwards, 5 defensemen]:
1. Alex Auld
2. Daniel Alfredsson
3. Jason Spezza
4. Dany Heatley
5. Mike Fisher
6. Antoine Vermette
7. Chris Kelly
8. Nick Foligno
9. Chris Neil
10. Jesse Winchester
11. Chris Phillips
12. Anton Volchenkov
13. Filip Kuba
14. Alexandre Picard
15. Christoph Schubert

Available:
Jarkko Ruutu
Dean McAmmond
Shean Donovan
Jason Smith
Luke Richardson
Martin Gerber

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Kopitar
Brown
O'Sullivan
Frolov
Stoll
Handzus
Richardson
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Armstrong

Johnson
Gauthier
Preissing
Greene
O'Donnell

Kings have a lot of rookies/minor league players, so this only leaves:

Labarbera

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We need people who support other teams to join this.

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LAX, you need at least one unprotected skater.

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LAX, you need at least one unprotected skater.
I protected all 9 skaters that are eligible...
but nonetheless, because I cannot edit posts:

Armstrong is available

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Thanks. We've only got 4 teams down so far... Fans of other teams, make some protection lists!

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Canucks would in all likelihood protect:

Luongo

Bieksa
Ohlund
Salo
Edler
Mitchell

Sedin
Sedin
Kesler
Raymond
Bernier
Demitra
Burrows
Wellwood
Johnson



Unprotected:
Sanford
O'Brien
Davison
Nycholat
Krog
Pyatt
Hordichuk

Rookies (exempt):
Hansen
Rypien
Brown

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Do minor league players have to be protected?

The following does not include minor league players. I included Bergfors as a minor league player

one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards

The Devils - protected

G) Martin Brodeur
D) Johnny Oduya
D) Paul Martin
D) Bryce Salvador
D) Andy Greene
D) Anssi Salmela
f) Zach Parise
f) Travis Zajac
f) Brian Rolston
f) Patrik Elias
f) Brian Gionta
f) Dainius Zubrus
f) John Madden
f) Petr Vrana
f) Jamie Langenbrunner

So that leaves these players unprotected
G - Kevin Weekes
D - Sheldon Brookbank
D - Colin White
D - Mike Mottau
F - David Clarkson
F - Jay Pandolfo
F - Mike Rupp
F - Bobby Holik

I think Las Vegas and Winnipeg should be used.
I'm reading that rookies are exempt. If they are then the Devils would not protect either Salmela or Vrana. In all likelyhood the Devils would probably pick Clarkson and White. I wouldn't but I think they would.
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Just analyzing semantics here. Seeing as the words 'at least' are there, I don't think rookies are exempt.

It's just that at least one defenseman has to meet that requirement, and at least two forwards have to meet that requirement.

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This might help

It's the 2000 protection lists
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hoc...xpansion_list/
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hoc...ailable_lists/

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Yeah. Rookies are available, people. It's just that teams need to expose for claim at least one experienced defenseman and two experienced forwards.

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Staal
Rozsival
Redden
Mara
Girardi

Dubinsky
Zherdev
Naslund
Gomez
Drury
Callahan
Voros
Dawes
Prucha

That leaves:

Valiquette
Kalinin
Rissmiller
Sjostrom
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Orr
Fritsche

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RANGERS

Lundqvist

Staal
Rozsival
Redden
Mara
Girardi

Dubinsky
Zherdev
Naslund
Gomez
Drury
Callahan
Voros
Dawes
Prucha

That leaves:

Valiquette
Kalinin
Rissmiller
Sjostrom
Betts
Orr
Fritsche
You beat me to it, i had the exact same list

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Thanks, hlundqvist. It'd be interesting to see a team that rolls four potent lines.

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Montreal Canadiens

Montreal Canadiens
Protected list

Goalies

Carey Price

Defencemen

Andrei Markov
Mike Komisarek
Roman Hamrlik
Josh Gorges
Ryan O'Byrne

Forwards

Saku Koivu
Christopher Higgins
Alex Tanguay
Andrei Kostitsyn
Sergei Kostitsyn
Alex Kovalev
Thomas Plekanec
Robert Lang
Guillaume Latendresse (some could argue)

Unprotected

Steve Bégin
Maxim Lapierre
Mathieu Dandenault
George Laraque
Tom Kostopoulos
Francis Bouillon
Patrice Brisebois
Jaroslav Halak
Marc Denis

Kyle chipchura, not sure if he count as a rookie

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I was reading about Kari Lehtonen reportedly being available and remembered about the Thrashers' expansion draft.

Theoretically, if the NHL were to expand to two more teams (one would result in an unbalance between conferences), what would their rosters be right now? I'd like to make an expansion draft for two teams.

Has this been done before?

I'll heed a warning saying that this is a somewhat big project and I'd like a bunch of people to help split the workload. Who's interested?

We'd have to determine the players that all 30 teams would protect, and then select the best players available for two teams.

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Available Players [6/30 completed]:
Los Angeles: Jason LaBarbera, Derek Armstrong
New Jersey: Kevin Weekes, Sheldon Brookbank, Colin White, Mike Mottau, David Clarkson, Jay Pandolfo, Bobby Holik, Michael Rupp
New York Rangers: Stephen Valiquette, Dmitri Kalinin, Patrick Rissmiller, Fredrik Sjostrom, Blair Betts, Colton Orr, Dan Fritsche
Ottawa: Jason Smith, Jarkko Ruutu, Dean McAmmond, Luke Richardson, Shean Donovan, Martin Gerber
Pittsburgh: Dany Sabourin, Matt Cooke, Michael Zigomantis, Eric Godard, Paul Bissonette, Darryl Sydor, Mark Eaton, Hal Gill, Rob Scuderi
Vancouver: Curtis Sanford, Shane O'Brien, Rob Davison, Lawrence Nycholat, Jason Krog, Taylor Pyatt, Darcy Hordichuk
sounds cool.

Could totally make an all goon team.

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