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11-10-2008, 06:51 PM
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Atlanta Thrashers

G - K. Lehtonen
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D - Tobias Enstrom
D - Ron Hainsey
D - Niclas Havelid
D - Garnet Exelby
D - Mathieu Schneider

Valabik, Oystrick, Bogosian are all under the 2 year experience

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F - Jason Williams
F - Todd White
F - Chris Thorburn
F - Slava Kozlov
F - Ilya Kovalchuk
F - Erik Christensen
F - Colby Armstrong
F - Eric Perrin
F - Marty Reasoner

Little is under 2 years experience

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G - Johan Hedberg
F - Eric Boulton
F -Jim Slater

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11-10-2008, 07:11 PM
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I'll do Atlanta's:

Protected:
Lehtonen, Enstrom, Hainsey, Havelid, Schneider, Armstrong, Christiansen, Kovalchuk, Kozlov, Little, Perrin, White, Williams, Reasoner, Thorburn.

Unprotected:
Hedberg, Boulton, Slater, Exelby(Unlucky but the thrashers only have 5 experienced d-man)

Exempt:
Pavelec, Bogosian, Oystrick, Valabik, Sterling (Not sure if he qualifies to be exempt)

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11-10-2008, 07:28 PM
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Exempt:

Enroth
Weber
Kostka
Butler
Persson
Gragnani
Gerbe
Kennedy
Gogulla
Schutz
Whitmore

Protected:
G-Miller

D-Sekera
D-Lydman
D-Rivet
D-Tallinder
D-Spacek

F-Vanek
F-Roy
F-Stafford
F-Hecht
F-Paille
F-Gaustad
F-MacArthur
F-Pominville
F-Kaleta


Unprotected:
Ellis
Zagrapan
Funk
Darche
Hunter
Mancari
Dennis
Bouck
Card
Bonneau
Fretter
Murphy
Lalime
Numminen
Paetsch
Kotalik
Connolly
Afinogenov
Mair
Peters

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11-10-2008, 07:30 PM
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Have all those guys even played in the league yet o_o, Well, the expansion teams can only take two players from each team, so...

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11-10-2008, 07:32 PM
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Have all those guys even played in the league yet o_o, Well, the expansion teams can only take two players from each team, so...
I strive for completeness. And I'm sure many of them have seen a 1 game call-up...

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11-10-2008, 08:41 PM
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Indeed. I'm working on my NaNoWriMo, so I'll update it later.

Anyone for Tampa Bay, Dallas, and Colorado?

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11-10-2008, 08:53 PM
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Boston:

Tim Thomas

Zdeno Chara
Dennis Wideman
Aaron Ward
Andrew Ference
Mark Stuart

Patrice Bergeron
Marc Savard
Phil Kessel
Marco Sturm
David Krejci
Milan Lucic
Blake Wheeler

Chuck Kobasew
Michael Ryder

Available:

Manny Fernandez
Shane Hnidy
PJ Axelsson
Petteri Nokelainen
Stephan Yelle
Shawn Thornton

I could definitely see them exposing Ryder and protecting either Nokelainen or Axe.
Wheeler and Lucic are exempt, so Axelsson and Nokelainen can be protected. Unfortunately, Matt Lashoff isn't. Does one of the other defence go so he can be protected?

Also, add Reich, St.Pierre, Schaefer, and Boychuk to the unprotected list.

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11-10-2008, 09:00 PM
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I'll do Atlanta's:

Protected:
Lehtonen, Enstrom, Hainsey, Havelid, Schneider, Armstrong, Christiansen, Kovalchuk, Kozlov, Little, Perrin, White, Williams, Reasoner, Thorburn.

Unprotected:
Hedberg, Boulton, Slater, Exelby(Unlucky but the thrashers only have 5 experienced d-man)

Exempt:
Pavelec, Bogosian, Oystrick, Valabik, Sterling (Not sure if he qualifies to be exempt)
Those three have two years pro. Oystrick or Valabik can be protected (empty defence spot) but Sterling would need to replace someone if you want to keep him.
Good job otherwise.

LoveDaSlug, great work on your list.

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11-10-2008, 09:07 PM
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RE: Red Wings-

I think both Ericisson and Howard would be exempt and that means Meech could be protected. Keep Draper over Sammy, but other than that, pretty much how I'd go.
Ericsson and Howard have 2 and 3 years pro respectively and are not exempt.

I also had Draper over Samuelsson, but production plus Babcock crush on Sammy influenced my choice. Pretty sad to leave the entire grind line unprotected, but they are past their prime.


EDIT: danishh did Dallas at post #66. Only thing missed about that was Parrish. Does he take the 9 forward spot over Crombeen?


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11-10-2008, 09:12 PM
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To clarify: playing in the AHL under an NHL contract counts towards 1st/2nd year exempt status. It's not just NHL seasons.


Not exempt:
- Joe Pavelski is in his 3rd pro season.
- Tomas Plihal is in his 6th pro season
Then knock out Torrey Mitchell and Devin Setoguchi from the list and put Marcel Goc and Tomas Plihal on the protected list.

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11-10-2008, 09:20 PM
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TBL (I think I got this right)

Exempt:
F- S Stamkos
F- B Jones
F- S Downie
D- V Mihalik
D- M Smaby
G- K Ramo

---

Forwards:
V Lecavalier
M St. Louis
V Prospal
R Malone
J Jokinen
R Vrbata
E Artyuhkin
J Halpern
A Hall

Defense:
P Ranger
A Meszaros
M Lundin
L Krajicek
S Eminger

Goaltender:
M Smith

---

Unprotected:

Forwards:
R Craig
C Gratton
M Pettinger
M Recchi
G Roberts
B Bochenski
W Smith

Defense:
M Malik
J Niskala
A Hutchinson

Goaltender:
O Kolzig

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11-10-2008, 09:24 PM
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I'll toss a list out for the Leafs, feel free to correct me. I have no idea what the exemption rules are so some of these guys might not need to be protected. I'll mark rookies with a *.

Protected
=========

(G) Vesa Toskala

(D) Tomas Kaberle
(D) Pavel Kubina
(D) Mike Van Ryn
(D) Luke Schenn*
(D) Anton Stralman


(F) Nik Antropov
(F) Niklas Hagman
(F) Alexei Ponikarovsky
(F) Matt Stajan
(F) Mikhail Grabovski*
(F) Nikolai Kulemin*
(F) John Mitchell*
(F) Alexander Steen
(F) Jiri Tlusty

Available
=======
(G) Curtis Joseph

(D) Jeff Finger
(D) Jonas Frogren
(D) Carlo Colaiacovo
(D) Ian White

(F) Jason Blake
(F) Jamal Mayers
(F) Ryan Hollweg
(F) Dominic Moore
Frogren is a first year NA pro. Is he exempt?

So that would make room to protect White, Mayers and Moore.

Unprotected:

G - C. Joseph
D - C. Colaiacovo
F - J. Blake
F - R. Hollweg
F - R. Earl

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11-10-2008, 09:29 PM
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Can you guys compile all the lists I haven't gotten to yet or updated into one post? It would make the workload much much easier. I'm real busy right now.

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11-10-2008, 09:33 PM
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TBL (I think I got this right)

Exempt:
F- S Stamkos
F- B Jones
F- S Downie
D- V Mihalik
D- M Smaby
G- K Ramo


---

Forwards:
V Lecavalier
M St. Louis
V Prospal
R Malone
J Jokinen
R Vrbata
E Artyuhkin
J Halpern
A Hall

Defense:
P Ranger
A Meszaros
M Lundin
L Krajicek
S Eminger

Goaltender:
M Smith

---

Unprotected:

Forwards:
R Craig
C Gratton
M Pettinger
M Recchi
G Roberts
B Bochenski
W Smith

Defense:
M Malik
J Niskala
A Hutchinson

Goaltender:
O Kolzig
Unfortunately, Jones, Smaby and Ramo are in their third profession seasons and are not exempt. Lundin is second year pro, so Malik can be protected (or Smaby). Heward should be on the unprotected list and counts as the minimum NHL games played defenceman. Also, some people might have different opinions about Vrbata and Hall, that's why I hadn't done this list yet.

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11-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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Why do you have Scott Walker on the blackhawks?

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11-10-2008, 09:52 PM
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Let's try Colorado:

Budaj

Hannan
Clark
Liles
Leopold
Foote?

Sakic
Stastny
Wolski
Hejduk
Smyth
Svatos
Tucker
Laperriere
McCormick

Exempt: Hensick, Jones

Unprotected:
G - A. Raycroft
G - J. Bacashihua
D - R. Salei
D - K. Cumiskey
D - D. Tjarnqvist
F - C. McLeod
F - B. Guite
F - T. Arnason
F - B. Willsie

I'd prefer to protect Salei or Cumiskey over Foote, but the organization would get serious flack if they didn't protect Foote.

McCormick and Laperriere could switch for McLeod or Guite, but Ian wears an 'A' and McCormick has better numbers than the other Cody.

I believe that is all teams accounted for. Not sure if they're 100% though.

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11-11-2008, 12:13 AM
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San Jose (I'm doing my own)

Exempt:
Joe Pavelski
Devin Setoguchi
Torrey Mitchell
Jamie McGinn

Protected:
F - Joe Thornton
F - Patrick Marleau
F - Ryane Clowe
F - Milan Michalek
F - Jonathan Cheechoo
F - Mike Grier
F - Marcel Goc
F - Jody Shelley
F - Brad Staubitz

D - Dan Boyle
D - Christian Ehrhoff
D - Marc-Edouard Vlasic
D - Douglas Murray
D - Rob Blake

G - Evgeni Nabokov

Unprotected:
F - Jeremy Roenick
F - Tomas Plihal
D - Brad Lukowich
D - Alexei Semenov
G - Brian Boucher

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11-11-2008, 12:49 AM
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Also, I think the Wings will probably want to keep Howard.
Doubt the Wings would protect Howard at the expense of exposing 2 more forwards and 2 defensemen.

If keeping Howard was important the team would probably make an arrangement with one of the two hypothetical expansion teams to pick Conklin and thus protect Howard.

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Bruins:

Tim Thomas (unless Rask counts)

Patrice Bergeron
Marc Savard
David Krejci
Milan Lucic
Marco Sturm
Michael Ryder
Phil Kessel
Chuck Kobasew
Blake Wheeler (?) If not, Nokelinean.

Zdeno Chara
Dennis Wideman
Andrew Ference
Aaron Ward
Matt Lashoff (?) if not, Shane Hnidy


Unprotected:
Shawn Thornton
Stephan Yelle
Manny Fernandez

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11-11-2008, 06:01 AM
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Doubt the Wings would protect Howard at the expense of exposing 2 more forwards and 2 defensemen.

If keeping Howard was important the team would probably make an arrangement with one of the two hypothetical expansion teams to pick Conklin and thus protect Howard.
True enough.

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Why do you have Scott Walker on the blackhawks?
Should be Matt Walker. Also since Kane and Toews are except you can add Eager and Burish to Chicago's list of protected players.

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I'll finish this and be Dallas:

Protected:

(G) Marty Turco
(D) Phillipe Boucher
(D) Trevor Daley
(D) Nicklas Grossman
(D) Stephane Robidas
(D) Sergei Zubov
(F) Mike Modano
(F) Mike Ribiero
(F) Brad Richards
(F) Steve Ott
(F) Jere Lehtinen
(F) Mark Parrish
(F) Sean Avery
(F) Loui Eriksson
(F) Brenden Morrow

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11-11-2008, 08:28 AM
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no one's done it, so i'll do dallas. Feel free to correct me.

exempt: Brunnstrom, Neal, Niskanen, Vishnevskiy

Protected
(G) Marty Turco
(D) Trevor Daley
(D) Stephan Robidas
(D) Nik Grossman
(D) Mark Fistric
(D) Sergei Zubov
(F) Richards
(F) Ribiero
(F) Morrow
(F) Lehtinen
(F) Avery
(F) Modano
(F) Eriksson
(F) Ott
(F) Parrish
exposed: Tobias Stephan, Philippe Boucher, Doug Janik, Joel Lundqvist, Krys Barch, Toby Peterson, Brandon Crombeen

...
changed to parrish. Exposed guys in bold to make it easy for you metalhead.

to others: please make sure you are doing this right. Look for a full roster that shows everyone under contract (good starting point, i use nhlscap.com) and then evaluate who is exempt. You are exempt for your first 2 years in the pros. Ex: Bryan Little (ATL) IS exempt because this is his second pro season. The playoffs he played in chicago (AHL, 06-07) do not count towards that total. Once you have done your exemptions correctly, its just a matter of making the right decisions for protection. Do not forget to protect prospects who have spent 2+ seasons in the minors! (or dont forget to add them to your unprotected list)


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11-11-2008, 08:29 AM
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metalhead, going over the sens again (sorry) you missed some unprotected's : Ryan Shannon, Jeff Glass, Brendan Bell, Josh Hennessy, Tomas Kudelka, Matt Carkner, Drew Fata, Danny Bois

Dont worry about these guys (bingo contracts) : Greg Mauldin, Chazz Johnson, Denis Hamel

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