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11-10-2008, 03:31 PM
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To Vancouver: Patrick O'Sullivan, Colten Teubert, Jarret Stoll.

To LA: Ryan Johnson, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin.

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I would do it if we can sign the twins to decent contracts.

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i dont think the nucks would do this

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why in the hell would Vancouver do this?

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yeah...no.

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To Vancouver: Patrick O'Sullivan, Colten Teubert, Jarret Stoll.

To LA: Ryan Johnson, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin.
you are joking right?
Im getting sick of these proposals.....
Sedins are still worth a decent amount....

Definite NO from Vancouver....regardless of Sedin's UFA status.

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why in the hell would Vancouver do this?
It makes even less sense for LA

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11-10-2008, 03:43 PM
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No way Canucks do this,.

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11-10-2008, 03:51 PM
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Why does LA want UFA's to be when they aren't going anywhere this season? Why does Vancouver give up their best offensive players when they are a playoff contender?

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11-10-2008, 03:52 PM
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you are joking right?
Im getting sick of these proposals.....
Sedins are still worth a decent amount....

Definite NO from Vancouver....regardless of Sedin's UFA status.
me too, for the fact that most people think that our young talent is available for some odd reason.......

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11-10-2008, 03:57 PM
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No.

We don't need Teubert in our pipeline. We need a puck mover, who will probably be picked by us in the draft this year.

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11-10-2008, 04:16 PM
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Why do we draft a center in a defense heavy draft and go to draft a d-man in an offense heavy draft? It don't make sense. Another second round d-man, yes please. I want one of the many talented forwards in the upcoming draft class.

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11-10-2008, 04:39 PM
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Vancouver is leading the division... so they need to trade their two best offensive players?

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11-10-2008, 04:45 PM
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To Vancouver: Patrick O'Sullivan, Colten Teubert, Jarret Stoll.

To LA: Ryan Johnson, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin.
You're from White Rock (as am I).. so you're a Canucks fan, presumably... Why would the Canucks do that?

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11-10-2008, 04:50 PM
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I know Sully is getting frustrated now being demoted to the 4th line and no PK time and he still plays his heart out. I see him ending up like Cammy and will be traded.

So if Sully does go on the block I would rather us go after and use him in a package for Kovalchuck then the Sedins.

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11-10-2008, 04:58 PM
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LA Passes.

I like the Sedins but Sully and Stoll are on decent contracts and Teubert is going to be a good punishing defensive defensman.( Maybe even by next year!)

Sully needs to be put back on a line with Kopitar and Brown and all will be right with the world again.

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11-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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You're from White Rock (as am I).. so you're a Canucks fan, presumably... Why would the Canucks do that?
I think Teubert is exactly the type of right side defenseman the Canucks need to make up for the loss of Bourdon and then some. A talented, junk yard dog besides being a local kid.

I've also been doing some math and I don't think we are going to be able to afford the Sedins next season. I'm guessing they are going to command between $4.5 & $5 mil each. Lets say it's the mid point of $4.75. That equals an additional $1.175 mil each or $2.35 mil total. Edler just got a new contract with a $2.7 mil per year raise. That is now $5.05 mil in salary increase and that is just the start.

Ohlund is also a UFA just entering his prime. Figure at least an extra $1 mil per year and he'd still be a bargain at $4.5 mil/yr. So now we are at an extra $6.05 mil.

Burrows has been earning a paltry $0.483 mil/yr. Now as a UFA I can't see him getting less than $2.0 mil to $2.5 mil/yr so if we split that in the middle, there is another $1.767 mil. Davison, Pyatt, Sanford and Ouelett are also all UFA's. I doubt they will earn much more than what they are earning now, but let's budget at least $0.250 mil salary increase between the 4 of them. That means for UFA's alone, we will have a salary increase of at least over $8 million dollars in a season that is predicted not to have an increase in the salary cap and possibly a decrease.

Now we look at RFA's at the end of this season. If you want to keep the best you have to tie them up now or expect an offer sheet. RFA's are Wellwood, Bernier, Hansen and O'Brien. Personally I don't want to see any of those four lost. Wellwood I can see being offered $2.0 mil/yr, Bernier $3.0 mi/yr, Hansen $1.75 mil/yr & O'Brien $1.25 mil/yr for a total additional salary increase of $3.044 mil/yr extra for RFA's.

Total expected salary increase $11.111 mil/yr. As our current salary budget is already at $47,207 mil/yr, adding another $11,111 mil/yr puts us way over the expected cap.

Definately LA is being offered the better deal. Johnson is the best shot blocking forward in the league and the twins would be awesome as a second line for LA with Moller on their wing. Can you imagine a top six of

Frolov - Koitar - Brown
Daniel S - Henrik S - Moller

Equally O'Sullivan and Stoll, though maybe not as skilled as the twins, are no slouches in their own right. It would also give the Canucks a $3.625 mil/yr salary dump and would restore the Canuck's right side - left side defensive core.

this season the Canucks would be:

Demitra - O'Sullivan - Bernier
Raymond - Wellwood - Ouelett/Grabner
Burrows - Kesler - Hansen
Pyatt - Rypien - Hordichuk

Mitchell - Bieksa
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Tuebert
O'Brien

Luongo
Sanford

The team would be younger and quicker, while even nastier to play against.
Getting Teubert also opens up the possibility of trading Ohlund to the Flyers for a RW or two.

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11-10-2008, 09:41 PM
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I wouldn't touch Jarrot Stoll with a 20 foot pole. Although I would trade Everyone on our team for Dustin Brown.

I <3 Dustin Brown, please share Kings fans.

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11-10-2008, 10:09 PM
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Where would you deal Luongo to follow through with your re-build idea? You don't honestly think Luongo considers re-signing with the Canucks after you deal the teams 2 best skaters do you?

Take out Stoll and replace him with Frolov and the deal becomes respectable from Vancouver's POV.

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Interesting deal...

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To Vancouver: Patrick O'Sullivan, Colten Teubert, Jarret Stoll.

To LA: Ryan Johnson, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin.


no way...........

keep your Sedins... we don't want them.
They asking for 1st line franchiser money and playing like 2nd liner.
The Kings would never agree with that.

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11-10-2008, 10:42 PM
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Demitra - O'Sullivan - Bernier
Raymond - Wellwood - Ouelett/Grabner
Burrows - Kesler - Hansen
Pyatt - Rypien - Hordichuk

Mitchell - Bieksa
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Tuebert
O'Brien

Luongo
Sanford

The team would be younger and quicker, while even nastier to play against.
Getting Teubert also opens up the possibility of trading Ohlund to the Flyers for a RW or two.

Did you mean Stoll instead of Wellwood or Rypien? I just didn't see him in your line-up.

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no way...........

keep your Sedins... we don't want them.
They asking for 1st line franchiser money and playing like 2nd liner.
The Kings would never agree with that.
The only numbers that have been thrown out there are that they were seeking $4.5M-$4.75M per. Hardly "franchiser" money. I also don't know many 2nd liners that score at just under a PPG pace. They'd be 1-2 in scoring for your team.

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