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11-17-2008, 01:00 PM
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Ron Willson Accountability

I love how hes doing it for the leafs. but why did he never do it to the sharks?

Marleau his captain was mad under-acheiving last year but he was always played
cheechoo was also mad under-acheiving he still played but at a lower line.

Why didnt he hold them accountable. it seems kinda weird that he does it with the leafs but never did it with the sharks. If sundin was playing and he was doing terrible would he hold him accountable?

I just found that a little odd.

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was cheechoo underachieving, or did his goal scoring title give people unrealistic expectations?

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Wilson benched players, had a public dispute with Marleau, identified players by name who he thought weren't playing well, took Cheechoo off of Thornton's line. Players were happy to see him leave.

What is this all about again?

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it is much easier for him to carry this philosophy with a rebuilding team than a cup contending team.

also i dont recall the last time a team has had their captain a healthy scratch. maybe someone can find that.

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To the OP:

It's quite the opposite. He publicly criticized the players and was very verbally hard on them but after a while, it was falling on deaf ears and his coaching style was no longer effective.

Especially in the playoffs when confidence is key.

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it is much easier for him to carry this philosophy with a rebuilding team than a cup contending team.

also i dont recall the last time a team has had their captain a healthy scratch. maybe someone can find that.
Agreed.

You have to get that philosphy engraved in their heads while they are still NHL newbies. Veterans aren't going to respond favourably to that especially if they were treated like kings by their old coach.

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Wilson benched players, had a public dispute with Marleau, identified players by name who he thought weren't playing well, took Cheechoo off of Thornton's line. Players were happy to see him leave.

What is this all about again?
But he never scratched them. He said they werent performing but they werent healthy scratches. Marleau was still getting great minutes for a guy who wasnt preforming.

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11-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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But he never scratched them. He said they werent performing but they werent healthy scratches. Marleau was still getting great minutes for a guy who wasnt preforming.
Wilson did screw around with Marleau including dropping his minutes at times, maybe you didn't see it, but it happened.

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was cheechoo underachieving, or did his goal scoring title give people unrealistic expectations?
He never said he was underachieving, he said he was mad underachieving.


Anyway, I think wendelclark17 said it best. It's easier to do with a young team that has low expectations. Also, maybe he's learned from his mistakes in SJ?

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Its not that Wilson criticises the efforts of his players, its that he never admits anything he did was wrong.

ex, putting Rissmiller or Semenov out on the last shift of the game and having the other team tie it in the final minute. That literally happened 6-7 times last season.

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1. The Sharks are an elite team. They were winning and know how to win in the reg. season.

2. Marlea is their captain.

3. Wilson actually did a bunch of that stuff, but its just not publicly released as much in San Jose as it would be in Toronto. Media makes a huge difference.

4. Toronto needs accountability to win. San Jose doesnt in the reg. season.

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I love how hes doing it for the leafs. but why did he never do it to the sharks?

Marleau his captain was mad under-acheiving last year but he was always played
cheechoo was also mad under-acheiving he still played but at a lower line.

Why didnt he hold them accountable. it seems kinda weird that he does it with the leafs but never did it with the sharks. If sundin was playing and he was doing terrible would he hold him accountable?

I just found that a little odd.
Im just going to giggle at this and then come check in later in the season.

What RW likes to do is throw people under fast moving buses without taking into accountability his own failures as a coach. It will work for awhile but eventually his players will turn on him. He also wont hold players accountable that he "likes", only those who he already has an issue with.


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