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11-18-2008, 07:44 AM
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11/18/08 "Tocchet On The Docket" - Panthers VS. Lightning

Tonight your Florida Panthers take on the Tampa Bay Lightning! Game time at 7:30 live from Bank Atlantic Center!

TV: NOT on TV.

Radio: Listen Live to NHL Radio

VS

Standings
Florida:
Wins Losses OTL/SOL Total Points
6 9 1 13

Tampa Bay:
Wins Losses OTL/SOL Total Points
5 7 5 15


Injuries
Tampa Bay:
Player Position Date Of Incident Status Injury
Jeff Halpern C Sep 18, 2008 Injured Reserve Ruptured Right ACL, Right Knee Surgery

Florida:
Player Position Date Of Incident Status Injury
C. Murphy D Oct 26, 2008 Injured Reserve Strained Shoulder
B. Allen D Oct 16, 2008 Injured Reserve Left Knee Surgery
K. Kreps C Nov 6, 2008 Injured Reserve Concussion
G. Campbell C Nov 8, 2008 Probable Hand


Expected Starting Goaltenders
Tampa Bay:
Mike Smith
GP W L OTL GAA SV% SO
12 4 4 4 2.42 .930 1

VS.

Florida:
Tomas Vokoun
GP W L OTL GAA SV% SO
11 3 8 0 2.93 .913 1


Team Leaders
Tampa Bay:
Points Martin St. Louis 13
Goals Vincent Lecavalier 7
Assists Martin St. Louis 9
PIM Ryan Malone 29
Plus/Minus Vaclav Prospal 6
PP Goals Vincent Lecavalier 4
SH Goals Lukas Krajicek 0

Florida:
Points Keith Ballard 10
Goals David Booth 7
Assists Keith Ballard 8
PIM Keith Ballard 35
Plus/Minus Karlis Skrastins 3
PP Goals Nathan Horton 2
SH Goals Nathan Horton 1


Special Teams
Tampa Bay:
PP%PP RankPK%PK Rank
16.0%20th79.3%22nd

Florida:
PP%PP RankPK%PK Rank
12.7%29th80.5%19th


Current Eastern Conference Standings
RankTeamGPPts
1 * NY Rangers 21 30
2 * Boston 18 26
3 * Washington 17 23
4 Pittsburgh 17 24
5 Montreal 16 22
6 Buffalo 17 21
7 Carolina 18 20
8 New Jersey 17 18
9 Philadelphia 17 18
10 Toronto 19 18
11 Atlanta 17 16
12 NY Islanders 18 16
13 Tampa Bay 17 15
14 Ottawa 18 15
15 Florida 16 13
* = Division Leader


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Stephen Weiss and Gregory Campbell were back today, Kamil Kreps skated before practice and will be on the trip. Could play sometime in the next three games. Noah Welch back on defense, replaced on a forward line by Wade Belak. Pete DeBoer says it was just a practice thing, wanted eight D today.

While the Panthers' 4-0 win against the Lightning last week looked relatively easy, DeBoer said his team is not viewing the rematch against its rival, which has since changed its coach, that way.

"People in glass houses don't throw stones," he said. "Where we are right now, we can't take anyone lightly."
Florida Panthers' Jay Bouwmeester won't fret over deal
Florida Panthers are desperate for wins
George Richards' Blog, Your Source For Reliable, Early Panthers Info!

Vokoun takes back the reigns tonight in goal. Kreps may play again as soon as Thursday.

Red Hot Cat Of The Night Bryan McCabe, who has 3 points in his last 3 games.


Primary Target

Rick Tocchet, the former Philadelphia Flyer had a prime chance in being the assistant coach to Wayne Gretzky with the developing Phoenix Coyotes. That is until he blew that when he also blew some money in a gambling ring. Those days are somewhat behind him now, for he must now be the head coach of the Lightning as the Tampa ownership fired Barry Melrose after just 16 games. To say this team is putting all its money in the pot is doing so lightly.




LET'S GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!

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Uh, oh - new coach. Will it be enough to override the fact that it's the Lightning?

This one could go either way.

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This not on tv BS has really got to stop. Im sick and tired of getting all hyped up for a game and then checking my Center Ice channels to find out its not televised. These are professional sports, there is no reason whatsoever for any game not to be televised. This just ruined my day and we didnt even lose yet.

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just an FYI, seeing as how you guys aren't going to be able to watch this on TV, the local newspapers are reporting the lightning will have new lines:

Steven Stamkos-Vinny Lecavalier-Marty St. Louis
Matt Pettinger-Vinny Prospal-Radim Vrbata
Evgeny Artyukhin-Jussi Jokinen-Mark Recchi
Gary Roberts-Chris Gratton-Ryan Craig

of note is that stamkos will play wing on the top line. whether that equates to him actually scoring is another thing. vokoun usually shuts us down.

good luck tonight

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just an FYI, seeing as how you guys aren't going to be able to watch this on TV, the local newspapers are reporting the lightning will have new lines:

Steven Stamkos-Vinny Lecavalier-Marty St. Louis
Matt Pettinger-Vinny Prospal-Radim Vrbata
Evgeny Artyukhin-Jussi Jokinen-Mark Recchi
Gary Roberts-Chris Gratton-Ryan Craig

of note is that stamkos will play wing on the top line. whether that equates to him actually scoring is another thing. vokoun usually shuts us down.

good luck tonight
Thanks for the update. Would you mind posting the previous lines so we can see the difference? Is Malone hurt?

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Thanks for the update. Would you mind posting the previous lines so we can see the difference? Is Malone hurt?
just going off of memory, and noting that the lines have been a mish-mash all season:

Vinny Prospal-Vinny Lecavalier-Marty St. Louis
Ryan Malone-Steven Stamkos-Radim Vrbata
Evgeny Artyukhin-Jussi Jokinen-Mark Recchi
Gary Roberts-Chris Gratton-Adam Hall/Ryan Craig

Ryan Malone has an undisclosed loewr body injury that has kept him out of the last couple of games. also of note is that radim vrbata has lately been playing the top line in an effort to "get him going" which didn't really work that well. my theory is they are showcasing him for a trade that will never pan out as no one wants him (his contract is 3 million per.)

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Originally Posted by wonderllama View Post
just going off of memory, and noting that the lines have been a mish-mash all season:

Vinny Prospal-Vinny Lecavalier-Marty St. Louis
Ryan Malone-Steven Stamkos-Radim Vrbata
Evgeny Artyukhin-Jussi Jokinen-Mark Recchi
Gary Roberts-Chris Gratton-Adam Hall/Ryan Craig

Ryan Malone has an undisclosed loewr body injury that has kept him out of the last couple of games. also of note is that radim vrbata has lately been playing the top line in an effort to "get him going" which didn't really work that well. my theory is they are showcasing him for a trade that will never pan out as no one wants him (his contract is 3 million per.)
Thanks again. Looks like Prospal and Stamkos will both have to adjust to a new position and new linemates. I hope that doesn't just fall into place tonight.

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NO TV, WHAT TYPE OF BS IS THIS!!!!!! especially for a cross state rival!!!!!!



GGGGGOOOOO CCCCAAAAAATTTTTTSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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just going off of memory, and noting that the lines have been a mish-mash all season:

Vinny Prospal-Vinny Lecavalier-Marty St. Louis
Ryan Malone-Steven Stamkos-Radim Vrbata
Evgeny Artyukhin-Jussi Jokinen-Mark Recchi
Gary Roberts-Chris Gratton-Adam Hall/Ryan Craig
Those were Barry Melrose's usual lines.

Rick Tocchet's first game was:

Prospal - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Pettinger - Jokinen - Vrbata
Roberts - Stamkos - Recchi
Artyukhin - Gratton - Hall

Hall was a bit injured (took a puck to his big toe last game) but will play tonight, while Craig is a scratch again. Malone, as has been said, is also injured.

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Damnit, Stillman will be out tonight according to GR:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/flapa...y-with-th.html

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Just wanted a quick correction that was just an obvious mistype. The game is at the St Pete Times Forum, not the BAC.

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This is a ****ing joke. First Panther game in 4 days and NO TV? **** YOU FSN!!!!

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yell at FSN all you want, but this ain't their deal...it's the NHL and versus...tonight is an exclusive versus window...no other games in US can be broadcast during that timeframe...so, unless bolts wanted to move game to 9:30, too bad so sad...

total BS if you ask me, and it isn't going to help their ratings all that much (minny-pitt)...people who wanted to watch their team (example TB-FLA) will just turn on the radio and watch something else...I mean I will probably watch the Wild-Pens, but many will not...just a stupid rule...let the market decide what it wants to watch...

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yell at FSN all you want, but this ain't their deal...it's the NHL and versus...tonight is an exclusive versus window...no other games in US can be broadcast during that timeframe...so, unless bolts wanted to move game to 9:30, too bad so sad...

total BS if you ask me, and it isn't going to help their ratings all that much (minny-pitt)...people who wanted to watch their team (example TB-FLA) will just turn on the radio and watch something else...I mean I will probably watch the Wild-Pens, but many will not...just a stupid rule...let the market decide what it wants to watch...
Wow. I had no idea that was the case. Horrible rule/policy by the NHL that needs to be changed badly! I am so tired of the Pens, Rangers and Wings being the only teams televised nationally.

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Wow. I had no idea that was the case. Horrible rule/policy by the NHL that needs to be changed badly! I am so tired of the Pens, Rangers and Wings being the only teams televised nationally.
That is some serious BS.

I was really hoping to watch how this team plays against the Lightning after the Detroit game.

Sucks that Stillman is going to be out tonight.

Go Panthers!

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I still cant believe this game isn't being televised. This is some major ********. I really wanted to see how this team looks before I go to the game against the Devils Thursday.

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GR's buddy at the Sun-Sentinel is reporting that not only is Stillman out tonight but at least the next two games as well.

The news out of this morning's skate here in Tampa: Winger Cory Stillman won't play tonight or the other two games on this trip.

Coach Pete DeBoer said Stillman stayed back in South Florida because he's dealing with some post-concussion symptoms. The Panthers first figured the flu was why Stillman didn't finish practice Monday. So Stillman will have to wait to play the Lightning, one of his former teams, again.

Michael Frolik will take Stillman's spot on the first line alongside Nathan Horton and Rostislav Olesz.



http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...an-misses.html

Yeah, Frolik will give that line a big scoring boost. Imo, this has been JM's and/or our scouts biggest failing this season. Repeatedly when asked this off-season if the Panthers were depending too much on young players to produce offense JM responded by pointing out the contributions of Chicago's young forwards last season. Well I don't think anyone would make that comparison so far this season. JM and/or his scouts appear to have seriously misjudged the talent level and/or the NHL readiness of young forwards in the Cats Organization and they should be held to account for that.

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yell at FSN all you want, but this ain't their deal...it's the NHL and versus...tonight is an exclusive versus window...no other games in US can be broadcast during that timeframe...so, unless bolts wanted to move game to 9:30, too bad so sad...

total BS if you ask me, and it isn't going to help their ratings all that much (minny-pitt)...people who wanted to watch their team (example TB-FLA) will just turn on the radio and watch something else...I mean I will probably watch the Wild-Pens, but many will not...just a stupid rule...let the market decide what it wants to watch...
That is a stupid rule.

Guess I'll watch my DVR'd 'Jon and Kate Plus 8' instead. My husband will be thrilled.

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Guess Ill just listen to the game, and watch the Heat game on the net here in Greece, where it is 40 DEGREES...GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!! I sure do miss South Florida weather. Anyone know if I listen to the game on NHL Radio, is it free? Because I can never get 790 to broadcast live on the net.

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That is a stupid rule.

Guess I'll watch my DVR'd 'Jon and Kate Plus 8' instead. My husband will be thrilled.
OT: Kate is a b*tch, but makes for good TV i guess .

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Guess Ill just listen to the game, and watch the Heat game on the net here in Greece, where it is 40 DEGREES...GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!! I sure do miss South Florida weather. Anyone know if I listen to the game on NHL Radio, is it free? Because I can never get 790 to broadcast live on the net.
I know it was free the previous seasons (pretty sure it still is). Pre-centre ice last year here on my package...NHL radio was home to all my Panthers games for the most part.

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So pissed it's not on tv...

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