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11-18-2008, 10:51 AM
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QMJHL CSR Rankings

Quebec Major Junior Hockey League Prelim. Rankings - Fall 2008
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QUEBEC MAJOR JUNIOR HOCKEY LEAGUE - SKATERS
RANK PLAYER TEAM BIRTHDAY HT WT POS SHOOTS
1 Simon Despres Saint John 27-Jul-91 6-foot-3.5 214 D L
2 Dmitry Kulikov Drummondville 29-Oct-90 6-foot 190 D L
3 Gabriel Lemieux Shawinigan 28-Sep-90 6-foot-1 170 D L
4 Charles-Olivier Roussel Shawinigan 13-Sep-91 6-foot-1 198 D R
5 Jordan Caron Rimouski 2-Nov-90 6-foot-2.5 200 C L
6 Philippe Paradis Shawinigan 2-Jan-91 6-foot-2 190 C L
7 Eric Gelinas Lewiston 8-May-91 6-foot-3 190 D L
8 David Gilbert Quebec 9-Feb-91 6-foot-1.75 180 C L
9 Michal Hlinka Chicoutimi 19-Mar-91 6-foot-1 185 C L
10 Nicolas Deslauriers Rouyn-Noranda 22-Feb-91 6-foot 198 D L
11 Steven Anthony Saint John 21-Mar-91 6-foot-1.25 205 LW L
12 Phillipe Lefebvre Drummondville 28-Feb-91 5-foot-11 175 LW L
13 Andrej Nestrasil Victoriaville 22-Feb-91 6-foot-2 194 LW L
14 Guillaume Goulet Baie-Comeau 16-Oct-90 5-foot-9 163 RW R
15 Hubert Labrie Gatineau 12-Jul-91 5-foot-11 165 D L
16 Gleason Fournier Rimouski 8-Sep-91 6-foot 176 D L
17 Simon Jodoin Moncton 20-Nov-90 6-foot-0.25 171 D L
18 David Savard Moncton 22-Oct-90 6-foot-1.25 200 D R
19 Brad Yetman Shawinigan 17-May-91 6-foot-3.25 195 D L
20 Gabriel O'Connor Halifax 14-Dec-90 6-foot-2.5 190 D R
21 Gabriel Bourque Baie-Comeau 23-Sep-90 5-foot-9 183 LW L
22 Mikael Tam Quebec 26-Apr-91 5-foot-10.75 174 D L
23 Matt Brown Moncton 24-Feb-91 5-foot-10.75 190 LW L
24 Jonathan Lessard Acadie-Bathurst 22-Feb-91 5-foot-11.5 170 LW L
25 Alex Wall Montreal 1-Nov-90 5-foot-10.5 190 D L

QUEBEC MAJOR JUNIOR HOCKEY LEAGUE - GOALIES
RANK PLAYER TEAM BIRTHDAY HT WT POS CATCHES
1 Olivier Roy Cape Breton 12-Jul-91 5-foot-11.75 167 G L
2 Jean-Sebastien Boucher Val d'Or 6-Mar-91 6-foot-1.5 176 G L
3 Karel St-Laurent Saint John 30-Dec-90 6-foot-3.25 178 G L
4 Sean Coulton Chicoutimi 21-Mar-91 6-foot-0.25 180 G L
5 Jean-Francois Berube Montreal 13-Jul-91 6-foot-0.5 155 G L
6 Frederic Piche Acadie-Bathurst 12-Aug-91 6-foot 178 G L


I would love for the Habs to pick up Roussel or Gelinas, I know we have a lot of good young d-men but those guys are better than their ranking on here.

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11-18-2008, 10:56 AM
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Tam and Labrie not responding to the hype they were getting last year. What's happening to them really? I wonder how they'll improve throughout the year.

I like Alex Wall and feel he's too far in that list. Not saying he's a first rounder but still.... I think that from the Juniors, guys like Dion and Aubry could improve a lot during the year and should see their rankings go up by a bit.

Didn't look at the others too much to have a real opinion.

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11-18-2008, 10:56 AM
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I really like Depres, it's too bad everyone is real high on him now. I was hoping he would kinda be late first rounder. Apparently now he is getting more playing time every game and people are taking notice.

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11-18-2008, 11:00 AM
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Tam and Labrie not responding to the hype they were getting last year. What's happening to them really? I wonder how they'll improve throughout the year.

I like Alex Wall and feel he's too far in that list. Not saying he's a first rounder but still.... I think that from the Juniors, guys like Dion and Aubry could improve a lot during the year and should see their rankings go up by a bit.

Didn't look at the others too much to have a real opinion.
I think both Tam and Labrie will be top notch junior d-men but neither has the size or explosive offensive upside to be top picks. Doesn't mean they can't develop like a Bouillon or Robidas.

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Anyway....who cares about those leagues....what's the NCAA rankings....that's what is important...

If we need a D, we should take a look at Sam Lofqvist from Minnesota.

In Europe....who are my big centermen? Who will be my Patrick Berglund or Anton Gustafsson? Is Joonas Nattinen from Finland the man? How about Montreal going after a Stastny? Andrej Stastny, Czech, 6'3'', 200lbs, centerman who's a righty. That would be neat, trade Gorges, and put #26 with Stastny on the back.....

Can Jacob Josefsen fall a little bit. He seems to be pretty intriguing. David Runblad, a 6'2'' d-man looks pretty good offensively. Nice skater, good instincts.


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11-18-2008, 11:22 AM
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Anyway....who cares about those leagues....what's the NCAA rankings....that's what is important...

If we need a D, we should take a look at Sam Lofqvist from Minnesota.

In Europe....who are my big centermen? Who will be my Patrick Berglund or Anton Gustafsson? Is Joonas Nattinen from Finland the man? How about Montreal going after a Stastny? Andrej Stastny, Czech, 6'3'', 200lbs, centerman who's a righty. That would be neat, trade Gorges, and put #26 with Stastny on the back.....

Can Jacob Josefsen fall a little bit. He seems to be pretty intriguing.
I'm not a fan of big centers...give me a Sakic/Yzerman type guy. Big centemen usually end up slow or lazy.

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Philippe Paradis, from Shawinigan, will be an amazing offensive force. He's the third center now in Shawinigan, behind McNicoll and Vandall, but he has amazing speed for his size and great great skills.

Charles-Olivier Roussel is, right now, a top-10 dman in the ligue.

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11-18-2008, 11:42 AM
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Philippe Paradis, from Shawinigan, will be an amazing offensive force. He's the third center now in Shawinigan, behind McNicoll and Vandall, but he has amazing speed for his size and great great skills.

Charles-Olivier Roussel is, right now, a top-10 dman in the ligue.
He plays LW, not center. Their top 3 centers are McNichol Labrecque and Vandall. Paradis plays LW with Labrecque's line and on the 2nd PP.

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Big centemen usually end up slow or lazy.
Well, you do know that I'm not taking about those. I say big, I do intent to have some grit, nice speed and good work ethic.....à la Getzlaf, Berglund.....maybe even Grachev and Anisimov who are doing too badly.

We "might" have already our Brad Richards in Ben Maxwell. We might want to add a little more size in the middle. But obviously not disregarding all the others aspects of the game.....Size isn't everything....but it could be start to something...

But then, sure, give me centers like the ones you mention, and I'm not going to criticize too much...

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Well, you do know that I'm not taking about those. I say big, I do intent to have some grit, nice speed and good work ethic.....à la Getzlaf, Berglund.....maybe even Grachev and Anisimov who are doing too badly.

We "might" have already our Brad Richards in Ben Maxwell. We might want to add a little more size in the middle. But obviously not disregarding all the others aspects of the game.....Size isn't everything....but it could be start to something...

But then, sure, give me centers like the ones you mention, and I'm not going to criticize too much...
Laziness was one of the knocks on Getzlaf at the draft, he's worked on that part of his game and is playing grittier.

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He plays LW, not center. Their top 3 centers are McNichol Labrecque and Vandall. Paradis plays LW with Labrecque's line and on the 2nd PP.
Agree. He was drafted to play as center and is more of a center. Eric Veilleux wanted to convert him last year as a LW to be McNicoll's linemate, but didn'T work. Shawinigan is deep right at center, but Tommy Tremblay, LW, playing most of the year on that line, said that he was the more suited as center.

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Interview with Philippe Paradis
Interview with Nicolas Riopel
Interview with Guy Boucher (Kulikov)
Interview with Louis Leblanc

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Strange list to say the least, no Benjamin Casavant, no goalie under 6 foot ( read Gabriel Girard here) .

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I really only watch Juniors games so I can only comment on Wall and Berube.

Berube really came out of nowhere to make the club, he's from my hometown (Repentigny) not that it matters though. He's got quick pads and he is very calm under pressure. He looks very small in net and sure enough he'll have to add some pounds to this 6'1 155lbs frame. I really like the way he plays but if he loses any of quickness or agility by putting on the pounds he's toasted. Then again Ryan Miller is pretty thin and is still a top goalie. All in all Berube is a talentend goaltender and has more than held his own when called upon. I could see him being a late rounder and becoming a great AHL goalie and possibly making the NHL one day, he has the potential to but he'll have to work hard to achieve his dream.

Alex Wall is a tremendous defenseman. He's a joy to watch as he's such an amazing skater. He can play in all situations and moves the puck well. He has great vision and hockey sense from what I have seen. Most people say he's an offensive kind of defenseman but I don't think he is an all-out kind of guy, he is very aware of where his defensive zone is and really defends his net well. He rarely turns over the puck and makes very few positional mistakes. I really think he his underrated as he's good all-around and has a lot of offensive potential. He isn't very strong down low though so that might hurt him, especially as a defenseman you need to have the physical side of the game down. I could see him going anywhere from late 2nd to early 5th. He will be picked.

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Laziness was one of the knocks on Getzlaf at the draft, he's worked on that part of his game and is playing grittier.
Which is exactly what I'm referring too when I keep saying that we shouldn't really overestimate the laziness as far as junior players are concerned, especially the ones who are above the others. I keep saying that if you can find a 17 or 18 year old who has the great work ethic and gives it all day in day out, chances are you have found an exceptional player. If not, they might just be 17 or 18 year old.....Of course there are other signs that might tell you that once a bad work ethic, always a bad one, but we should really be careful about judging that.

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per ISS: Despres ranked 22nd and Kulikov ranked 23rd

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11679

I would really love to see Depres in a Habs sweater, don't know much about Kulikov anyone know much about him him?
Also anyone know about Taylor Doherty? 6'-8" defensemen are always nice thing to try out.

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My personnal ranking (with undrafted guys):

1 Dmitry Kulikov Drummondville
2 Simon Despres Saint John
3 Jordan Caron Rimouski
4 Charles-Olivier Roussel Shawinigan
5 Sergey Ostapchuk Rouyn-Noranda
6 Dave Labrecque Shawinigan
7 Philippe Paradis Shawinigan
8 Eric Gelinas Lewiston
9 Gabriel Lemieux Shawinigan
10 David Gilbert Quebec

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My personnal ranking:

1 Dmitry Kulikov Drummondville 29-Oct-90 6-foot 190 D L
2 Simon Despres Saint John 27-Jul-91 6-foot-3.5 214 D L
3 Jordan Caron Rimouski 2-Nov-90 6-foot-2.5 200 C L
4 Charles-Olivier Roussel Shawinigan 13-Sep-91 6-foot-1 198 D R
5 Andrej Nestrasil Victoriaville 22-Feb-91 6-foot-2 194 LW L
6 Philippe Paradis Shawinigan 2-Jan-91 6-foot-2 190 C L
7 Eric Gelinas Lewiston 8-May-91 6-foot-3 190 D L
8 Gabriel Lemieux Shawinigan 28-Sep-90 6-foot-1 170 D L
9 David Gilbert Quebec 9-Feb-91 6-foot-1.75 180 C L
10 Michal Hlinka Chicoutimi 19-Mar-91 6-foot-1 185 C L
I'm really high on Caron the player.....I begin to fear about Caron the always injured player....I really liked Nestrasil for both times I saw him play, foot work is an issue though.

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I'm really high on Caron the player.....I begin to fear about Caron the always injured player....I really liked Nestrasil for both times I saw him play, foot work is an issue though.
Yeah, Caron's injuries are an issue, it could take him away from the first round.

(I edited my post, I meant Ostapchuk when I put Nestrasil and I added Dave Labrecque.)

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Like Whitesnake says, the only rankings that matter are the NCAA, USHL and High school rankings.

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Hlinka is there despite having missed most of the season

This guy is going to be good! Can't wait for his return this weekend!

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Hlinka is there despite having missed most of the season

This guy is going to be good! Can't wait for his return this weekend!
I'm hoping to see him play, it's hard to put him in a ranking when he has only played 8 games this season.

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