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11-21-2008, 08:10 AM
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Antoine Vermette

Looking at the Ottawa game, I liked what I saw from Antoine Vermette and kept thinking he would look good with us. The results are not there for him this year, this is why I would consider getting him. Do you guys think if we could somehow replace Robert Lang with Antoine Vermette, it would somehow re-energize our offense? I am not talking about trading Lang for Vermette. I think we have enough prospect depth to get Vermette without affecting our current roster. I think a Vermette/Higgins duo on our third line and for PK would be awesome.

If you think he would be a good addition, what do you think it would need to get him from Ottawa? If Ottawa wants to shake things up and still wants to win this year, I was thinking of something like Lang + D'Agostini + (Good Prospect and/or Good Pic). If Ottawa wants to rebuild, something like Maxwell + Valentenko + Pic. Of course with the second option we would have to trade Lang, either for pics or defensive depth.

Am I way off on his value? Do we even need him?

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Vermette stinks this year.

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Vermette stinks this year.
Just like Tanguay did last year. And this is the reason I would think he could be available.

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11-21-2008, 08:22 AM
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No thanks... He has skills no doubt.
What would be needed offensively size and grit... Vermette has some grit, but no size....

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Looking at the Ottawa game, I liked what I saw from Antoine Vermette and kept thinking he would look good with us. The results are not there for him this year, this is why I would consider getting him. Do you guys think if we could somehow replace Robert Lang with Antoine Vermette, it would somehow re-energize our offense? I am not talking about trading Lang for Vermette. I think we have enough prospect depth to get Vermette without affecting our current roster. I think a Vermette/Higgins duo on our third line and for PK would be awesome.

If you think he would be a good addition, what do you think it would need to get him from Ottawa? If Ottawa wants to shake things up and still wants to win this year, I was thinking of something like Lang + D'Agostini + (Good Prospect and/or Good Pic). If Ottawa wants to rebuild, something like Maxwell + Valentenko + Pic. Of course with the second option we would have to trade Lang, either for pics or defensive depth.

Am I way off on his value? Do we even need him?
I don't think Ottawa has any interest in Lang and I think Carbo really likes Lang. The Sens would probably want Chris Higgins for Vermette.

Would Lats and a prospect (D'Agostini or Maxwell) be enough for them? Maybe because he really has struggled this year. But would a change of scenery be a cure for his struggles?

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regardless of how good a guy could be, habs will not be trading for any forwards this season.

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11-21-2008, 08:29 AM
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No thanks... He has skills no doubt.
What would be needed offensively size and grit... Vermette has some grit, but no size....
6.01 foot, 196 pounds is hardly a size problem.

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Yep they need a goalie ...

Halak / Vermette straight up

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Yep they need a goalie ...

Halak / Vermette straight up
Not a bad idea, but we'd desperately need a good backup goalie. We could try bringing Denis up, but he could get grabbed. I am not sure, but we also might need to shed salary.

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Admit it, you guys just want him cause he's french..


IMO he is not what you guys need, what you guys need is a Dustin Brown/Lucic type player up front who is tough in front of the net and an ******* on the ice, or even Mike Fisher from us. Getting those types of players however are VERY hard as they are rarely on the market.

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I liked seeing him robbed three times by Price thats for sure.

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he's a softie, no thanks.

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Vermette would be a good fit with the Habs, but it would be expensive.

I'm guessing something like Latendresse, Halak and a prospect.

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You are joking right?

This guy can't score with Heatley and Spezza but he will re energise our offense?

The only thing that will re energise our offense is the PP getting going and the coach not playing the damn trap!!

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11-21-2008, 09:22 AM
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Yep they need a goalie ...

Halak / Vermette straight up
They don't need a goalie (in their heads anyways), they are very high on Brian Elliott. He will probably be up with the team next year and has some potential. Halak is not necessarily an upgrade over Elliott for them, so i'm sure the're not interested in that right now...

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Vermette would be a good fit with the Habs, but it would be expensive.

I'm guessing something like Latendresse, Halak and a prospect.
I'm guessing you're on drugs.

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11-21-2008, 09:24 AM
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6.01 foot, 196 pounds is hardly a size problem.
He doesn't use it much... he is not very physical. I think we have enough of these players. We need to complement our skilled forwards with big bodies that can play and make space.

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11-21-2008, 09:41 AM
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He doesn't use it much... he is not very physical. I think we have enough of these players. We need to complement our skilled forwards with big bodies that can play and make space.
I had the feeling he was Chris Higgins physical, but I might be wrong.

For the big body that can make space, he's in Hamilton right now. There is also Latendresse, but he is not having enough PP time to park his ass in front of the net.

For the others, by re-energize our offense, I am by no way pretending he will carry it. I think he is a better fit with our style of play then Lang. He could center an amazing two way shut down line with Chris Higgins, the type of line that can make you win cups.

If he is has expensive as Halak, Latendresse and Maxwell it's a big no for me. The whole point of this is that we can get him for cheaper then what he was worth at the start of the year.

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Vermette would be a good fit with the Habs, but it would be expensive.

I'm guessing something like Latendresse, Halak and a prospect.
Wow... we're talking about Vermette here, not Spezza!

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11-21-2008, 10:30 AM
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With all our prospect, why do we will need a second or third line foward?

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Just like Tanguay did last year. And this is the reason I would think he could be available.
Not exactly. Tanguay did not stink last year, he had a bad offensive season because he was asked to play a more defensive role and was not getting the same ice time etc. Vermette is just stiking and is not worth getting, especially over a lang that is actually producing more.

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No way they should even let Maxwell's name come up in any trade rumors. This guy needs to be untouchable with Pacioretty and McDonagh (I'd even put Fischer in there cause he is going to be a stud D-Man too, long term project because of illness tho). Maxwell is the real deal great in all aspects of the game. He is 6'1" and when he adds muscle; gets up over 200lbs; he will be exactly what the Habs have been looking for years now. Anyone calls Gainey and mentions Maxwell he should just hang up on him.

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Vermette seems like a good candidate to be traded out of Ottawa when/if they do decide to start shaking things up. He's young enough and has been productive enough in the past that somebody will be ready to take a chance on him again. It has been suggested that the Sens would like a mobile defenseman. I don't quite know how that'd work, they're looking a bit thin in the 2nd line offense department already, although perhaps if Zubov or Foligno surge ahead it could be considered.

But either way, I don't see Vermette fitting the Habs at the moment. Pretty much a total mismatch there, actually. In addition to him being on a division rival. He's not a trade market player that I think we have to worry our heads over.

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Vermette stinks this year.
It's not just this year...

Never been a fan of his, and I hope we don't trade for him. He brings nothing new to the table.

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Do we really need a second Higgins on this team?

What this team needs is a Morrow type of player, not another soft speedy forward.

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