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06-21-2013, 11:22 PM
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06-22-2013, 12:16 AM
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I hope we can convince him to re-sign for Higgins money.

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Torts is going to absolutely love him.

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Love him but would trade him to change up the teams makeup.

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i would trade him. van has enough speedy pkers. still hands of stone though. good for 3rd line position.

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Love him but would trade him to change up the teams makeup.
Depends on what we can get for him. Wouldnt trade him just because we need to change the make up because hes not the problem.

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Love him but would trade him to change up the teams makeup.
If you want to change the makeup of the team trading a 3rd liner wouldnt be the way to do it.

I think he is one of the best 3rd line players in the league, it would take a good over payment for me to consider trading him.

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Depends on what we can get for him. Wouldnt trade him just because we need to change the make up because hes not the problem.
agree with this, Hansen is a very good 3rd line guy that can fill in the top 6 short term if needed.

Sort of a poor man's Martin Gelinas.

Of course everyone is trade able for the right price.

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i would trade him. van has enough speedy pkers. still hands of stone though. good for 3rd line position.
Just curious why you would trade him then? He puts up excellent points for a 3rd liner the last 2 seasons, he is physical, kills penlaties, excellent defensively, I just dont see a reason why I would trade him unless I am getting a decent upgrade back. You are not going to find hardly any 3rd liners making his wage who have better hands/point production then hansen.

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Torts is going to absolutely love him.
He'll be the Captain by the end of the year.

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Don't know why we would ever consider trading him. He gets points, is solid defensively, exciting to watch, PK's, (some time on the PP as well), and has only been getting better for the past 3 years (in 10 point intervals.) He's the kind of player you win with, not the kind you trade -- he brings consistency, and you don't trade that , short of a massive overpayment (1st+). mind boggling stuff.

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2012-13 regular season: tied for #98 in scoring among NHL forwards; tied for #32 among NHL right wingers

2011-12 regular season: tied for #139 in scoring among NHL forwards; #44 among NHL right wingers

And his scoring isn't even Hansen's best quality (or his most valuable).

But you can't argue with that kind of production (and with very little PP time). Basic math tells us that 30 NHL teams means 90 first line forwards and 180 top-six forwards (and 30 first line right wingers and 60 top-six right wingers). Scoring isn't everything but there's a pretty fair argument that his production as this point (looking at the past two seasons) puts him easily in the top-six on an average NHL team (arguably, being tied for #32 among RWers last season would make him a first liner on a weak team).

Probably time to think of him as a pretty good top-six winger that the Canucks have been blessed to have the luxury to mostly use as a 3rd liner. Add in his defensive ability, PK, energy, and compete level (plus a bargain contract) and he might just deserve being added to the list of the "core group" on this team.

Possibly the best bargain currently on the roster and should be in the discussion for the best late round pick ever made by the Canucks.

Of course, I'm Danish, I have his jersey from his days with the Mighty Bulls, and yes... I'm very biased.


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good 3rd liner but not a top 6 like he's been this season.

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2012-13 regular season: tied for #98 in scoring among NHL forwards; tied for #32 among NHL right wingers

2011-12 regular season: tied for #139 in scoring among NHL forwards; #44 among NHL right wingers

And his scoring isn't even Hansen's best quality (or his most valuable).

But you can't argue with that kind of production (and with very little PP time). Basic math tells us that 30 NHL teams means 90 first line forwards and 180 top-six forwards (and 30 first line right wingers and 60 top-six right wingers). Scoring isn't everything but there's a pretty fair argument that his production as this point (looking at the past two seasons) puts him easily in the top-six on an average NHL team (arguably, being tied for #32 among RWers last season would make him a first liner on a weak team).

Probably time to think of him as a pretty good top-six winger that the Canucks have been blessed to have the luxury to mostly use as a 3rd liner. Add in his defensive ability, PK, energy, and compete level (plus a bargain contract) and he might just deserve being added to the list of the "core group" on this team.

Possibly the best bargain currently on the roster and should be in the discussion for the best late round pick ever made by the Canucks.

Of course, I'm Danish, I have his jersey from his days with the Mighty Bulls, and yes... I'm very biased.
Being half Danish myself, I don't know how much me agreeing matters

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06-22-2013, 07:13 AM
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People saying you don't trade a guy like Hansen if you want to win - I thought LA did pretty well for themselves in trading Wayne Simmonds (who I would describe similarly).

Granted Hansen will have less value since he has less unrealized potential and will hit UFA next year.

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That he is the best third line centre there is.

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What is this trading Hansen I don't even.

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Trade Hansen? Yeah, no thanks.

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Hansen is a beauty. That's all.

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damn i just noticed his contract is over after next year

if he's looking for over 3m i might consider moving him unless we can move our other tweeners (higgins, burrows)

doubt he'd get much in return tho

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His cap hit is still 1.3mil for one more year and he puts up over .5ppg. The average salary for players putting up those kind of numbers is ~3.5mil.

We need players who are outperforming their contracts. Big no to trading Hansen without a damn good reason.

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06-22-2013, 02:47 PM
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Get a legit 3rd line center and Hansen will be awesome. This guy can score 15 goals on a consistent basis.

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Torts is going to absolutely love him.
In before he loves Hansen so much that he puts him on the PP, and then gets frustrated as the lack of finish/hands of stone come out on full display...At which point, 'he just stinks. i don't know why, but he just screws it up every time.'

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His cap hit is still 1.3mil for one more year and he puts up over .5ppg. The average salary for players putting up those kind of numbers is ~3.5mil.

We need players who are outperforming their contracts. Big no to trading Hansen without a damn good reason.
That's the real trick though. At ~$3.5M, Hansen would be overpaid. If that's the kind of money he's going to be looking at, i think we have to look at moving him before that point. If he's going to be open to re-signing at a 'Higgins rate' ~$2.5M, i can swallow that. But there's just not enough offensive upside there for me to stomach a $3.5M cap number. That's Scottie Upshall territory, as a similarly limited ~40pt, 15g gritty all around type player. And i think most people would agree that he's significantly overpaid. Even Bergenheim is 'overpaid' and provides a similar level to what Hansen can bring for $2.75M. So for me, it really comes down to where contract talks are going to be headed with Hansen...because he's not exactly the sort of player you can move the 'negotiating rights' to as a 3rd line winger, and get anything substantial in return. So if it gets to the brink of UFA status before we recognize that Hansen is going to be fishing for that big $3M+ deal...it puts us in a really bad situation, a bit like the Ehrhoff thing.

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Love him but would trade him to change up the teams makeup.
I think he's a perfect third liner and trading him; you'd just have to replace him, so what's the point?

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