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11-27-2008, 04:31 AM
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Maxim Afinogenov

Since last season, he's been on a decline, this year he's been getting more than a few shifts in the bottom 6 and for a player like Afinogenov, that's just not really where you want to be at 29yrs old and heading into free agency in the off season. Likely his last year in Buffalo as well.

What is his current value out on the trade market? As a Pens fan, I am curious as to what Sabres fan gauge as his value. Mind you, he hasn't been great since last season and is on pace for 4 goals and 35 pts (could change, who knows? not on the 3rd line though).

I could see one player the Pens moving for him, Ruslan Fedotenko, who can play bottom 6 minutes and work well with the grind of things. I doubt it would take just him even with Afinogenov's diminished trade value, so I would expect Shero would have to send a pick or a prospect like Stone just so Buffalo got a little extra.

Still a player I am a fan of, hopefully he can recharge his batteries elsewhere and I hope the Pens are that team (if it doesn't take a lot).

Ok Sabres fans...I pass the mic to you now.

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11-27-2008, 04:55 AM
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Afinogenov, Malkin and Sykora together scares me. Don't do it Buffalo.

With the way he is playing, and the fact that he is in a contract year (likely to leave too), Buffalo aren't in the driving seat when it comes to working out a deal for his services. That said, if they think that having his firepower in the playoffs is worth not trading him when his value is lower than ever then they might just keep him.

I would try and squeeze a pick + good prospect out of a playoff team.

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11-27-2008, 04:57 AM
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Grass is always greener..... I suppose.

Afinogenov has two seasons under his belt as a forward producing worthy of top6. Incidentally two years where Buffalo played perhaps the best hockey in the league and were scoring for fun.

I don't see why we would want him/take a chance on him, and I don't know how he is supposed to be a better choice on RW than Satan or Sykora. Sure, he is faster... but that isn't all there is to it.

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It's just for curiosity's sake. I'd much rather Shero went after a left winger but Afinogenov has always interested me with his mix of speed and skill.

Just wondering what Sabres fans feel his worth is right now in the trade market.

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11-27-2008, 05:05 AM
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That said, if they think that having his firepower in the playoffs
Are you really talking about Maxim Afinogenov?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8466202

He has a career high of 23 goals and that was in a brilliant Buffalo team that scored 308 goals. What am I missing here? Or are you taking the piss?

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Are you really talking about Maxim Afinogenov?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8466202

He has a career high of 23 goals and that was in a brilliant Buffalo team that scored 308 goals. What am I missing here? Or are you taking the piss?
Easy there mate...

Offensive depth is maybe what I should of said.

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As a Sabres fan, I feel he has worn out his welcome in Buffalo. It's time to move on. I would give him up for a prospect and draft choice. I would also package him with say, Tallinder, for a gritty playoff tested all around F who can win a faceoff when you need to win a face off. It only takes one team to want him

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As a Sabres fan, I feel he has worn out his welcome in Buffalo. It's time to move on. I would give him up for a prospect and draft choice. I would also package him with say, Tallinder, for a gritty playoff tested all around F who can win a faceoff when you need to win a face off. It only takes one team to want him
Stephan Yelle is your man

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11-27-2008, 08:46 AM
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To Buffalo:
Pit 4th 2009

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Buffalo clears cap, and gets a mid round pick...

Pittsburgh gets a winger with decent talent, and hopes he can have chemistry with Malkin/Crosby...

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Afinogenov is a player that thrives on a good team.

Leave him on a Buffalo team on the bubble, and he'll struggle all season, but trade him to a team like Washington where all they do is play offense, and he'll regain his form IMO.

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11-27-2008, 12:04 PM
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Grass is always greener..... I suppose.

Afinogenov has two seasons under his belt as a forward producing worthy of top6. Incidentally two years where Buffalo played perhaps the best hockey in the league and were scoring for fun.

I don't see why we would want him/take a chance on him, and I don't know how he is supposed to be a better choice on RW than Satan or Sykora. Sure, he is faster... but that isn't all there is to it.
Sure it is if they are to skate next to Malkin or Crosby, Sykora is looking pretty slow these days. Plus Max would be a great fit on Malkins line. Gives him some more help with the language gap playing and hanging out with him. Gonchar is to be out until Probably near the dead line so having another Russian would be helpful on the wing.
I would hope Max would be very productive if he was with Malkin. If they could squeeze 20 something out of him on his wing, could be what the doctor odered for the Pens and Max.

How about something like this.

Dupuis/ Fedotenko to buffalo

Afinogenov + 3rd to pittsburgh

The difference in cap hit would give the pens more room for going after a signing at the deadline. .583 + Curry's .392 when he gets sent down + difference in the trade .567 adds up to 1.542 under the cap could possibly sign Shanahan with that.

I dont know, just thowing that out there, any other solutions to bring him here?

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11-27-2008, 12:06 PM
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To Buffalo:
Pit 4th 2009

To Pittsburgh:
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Buffalo clears cap, and gets a mid round pick...

Pittsburgh gets a winger with decent talent, and hopes he can have chemistry with Malkin/Crosby...
Cant see that. Pens need to clear salary to bring him here under the cap.

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Brodziak for Afinogenov

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11-27-2008, 01:10 PM
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After the season:

To KHL:
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Cant see that. Pens need to clear salary to bring him here under the cap.
Not really because they can place Gonchar on LTIR.

I'm not thrilled wit what I've seen from Afinogenov though. A bad fit for the pens if you ask me.

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I liked the idea of Max in Pittsburgh...He could provide a bigger spark I think than Fedotenko at this point, I just think his faster paced style would fit better...

You would have to clear some cap room...

How about Mark Eaton or Ruslan and 4th in 09?

Would either of those get it done?

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Stephan Yelle is your man

Honestly, I would rather have Yelle on the Sabres. Max for Yelle.....DONE!

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no way we trade to pittsburgh. why would we give him away?

other then drury and briere. i am wondering if anyone can identify some of the sabres top line centers over the past 10 years. max spent 6 of them trying to create higlight reel goals every shift. now he plays a strong team game. Throwing him under the bus because of stats really ignores his effort/abiity and the problems on this team. the sabres just need to retool.

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I was just going to ask what the chances of this happening were, he could make a lot more money there

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I was just going to ask what the chances of this happening were, he could make a lot more money there
Chances are a lot of players are going to go to the KHL after this season. The cap is going to go down a bit (not a HUGE amount) and teams are going to start looking at cheaper and younger options as well.

I think Afinogenov & Kovalev are going to the KHL after the season is over.

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Sure it is if they are to skate next to Malkin or Crosby, Sykora is looking pretty slow these days.

Plus Max would be a great fit on Malkins line. Gives him some more help with the language gap playing and hanging out with him. Gonchar is to be out until Probably near the dead line so having another Russian would be helpful on the wing.
I would hope Max would be very productive if he was with Malkin. If they could squeeze 20 something out of him on his wing, could be what the doctor odered for the Pens and Max.
20something is the best Afinogenov has ever done in the NHL. Sykora beat Afinogenov's best ever season just last season, and has been hurt by the plentiful rotation that has often taken Malkin to Sid's line. Yet he still has had quite a bit more going for him than Max.
And as for language help and Russian-teammate effect.... its not as if Malkin is REALLY struggling, is it?

If we are to deal for a forward he better be real good to aid the cup push; or he better be a big body who can get the dirty job done in the crease, or he better be a prospect with top6 potential who could help alleviate the sure thing salary concerns we're going to have for next season.

Afinogenov, who has some good features too admittedly, is just brimming with all the things we don't need and lacking in all the things we do.

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A Buffalo fan suggested this deal on the Oiler board and it seems like a solid move for both sides:

Afinogenov + Stafford

for

Cole + Schremp

Both Cole and Schremp are from New York state so that's likely a good fit there and Buffalo is the type of team a guy like Schremp could develop nicely in.

Afinogenov ... maybe he can find his game again with a like minded type of player in Hemsky who has comparable speed. Stafford gives the Oiler some grit to their bottom six and can play on the second line in a pinch. His uncle also works for the Oilers I believe.

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