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Fla/Pitt- J-Bo & Horton for Staal & Whitney

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11-29-2008, 09:58 AM
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Fla/Pitt- J-Bo & Horton for Staal & Whitney

The Panthers are not going anywhere, need a potential No. 1 center and can afford to wait for Whitney to recover from injury, who essentially replaces J-Bo next season. They will need to resign Staal and add a scoring forward or two in the off-season, but will have plenty of cap space so to do. In the interim, they unload vets at the trade deadline, stockpile picks and once again wait until next year.

Playing with Crosby, Horton will score a huge number of goals. Adding J-Bo will potentially be enough to win the cup and he will probably take a discount to re-sign with Pittsburgh.

Staal will be a RFA and J-Bo an UFA. Horton and Whitney are both signed to comparable, favorable long term deals. If Pittsburgh wants to even up the $2.6 million cap differential , they can throw in Sykora and his $2,500,000 or Gill and his $2,000,000 salary.

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11-29-2008, 10:00 AM
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I think you'd have to add a 1st and maybe a prospect going to Florida.. but it's a decent proposal.

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Florida gets shafted

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First and a pretty good prospect better be going to Florida.

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I think the Pens wound need to add...

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11-29-2008, 10:17 AM
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I think Carolina is the team getting shafted.

Staal is their most important player, and Whitney is another of their key players. Bouwmeester has been terrible this season.

This trade doesn't work for either team.
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11-29-2008, 10:26 AM
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If you had to balance a Staal & Whitney for Staal & Whitney trade, which picks would you give to the Pens and/or Canes?

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I would gladly accept a No.1 in "09 and Goligoski in addition to Whitney and Staal, say thank you and make the trade.

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11-29-2008, 10:29 AM
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What about Goligoski, Whitney, Staal, 2010 1st for Horton and Bouwmeester with a clause that if Bouwmeester does not re-sign with Pittsburgh then the first changes to a 2nd in 2010?

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11-29-2008, 10:31 AM
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Salary Cap would blow up in Pittsburgh.

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11-29-2008, 10:33 AM
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How much does Bouwmeester and Horton make? Whitney and Staal would free up 6.2 and Golo is on his rookie contract so they would move 7 million in the deal.

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What about Goligoski, Whitney, Staal, 2010 1st for Horton and Bouwmeester with a clause that if Bouwmeester does not re-sign with Pittsburgh then the first changes to a 2nd in 2010?
How about 1st in '09 changes to 2nd in '09 and 2nd in '10?

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11-29-2008, 10:37 AM
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Why not J-Bo and a conditional 2nd (if bouwmeester does not re-sign) for Whitney straight up?

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11-29-2008, 10:38 AM
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pittsburgh doesnt have the right assets to make this, and i dont see the panthers trading horton.

Bouwmeester based around staal could work though. I could see the panthers taking that straight up because j-bo wont be agreeing to an extension until june/july.

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11-29-2008, 10:44 AM
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As a Pittsburgh fan, I probably wouldn't do it, and here's why:

Whits and Horton is a wash for me, seeing as how Whitney had a foot problem to blame for his regression last year, while Horton's plateaued for the last 3 years and is now being outproduced by Tyler Kennedy, who's even playing with less productive linemates.

Given the Pens strengths and weaknesses though, I'd do a Whitney for Horton swap straight-up.

J-Bo, too, has had his numbers dwindle every season since the lockout, he was underwhelming in the WCs last year and vastly outplayed by Brent Burns, and though I haven't seen him play in '08-'09, I haven't heard great things. But most importantly, he's almost certainly going to command a contract in excess of 7 mil a year, which really isn't in the Pens budget. Meanwhile Staal will be re-signable for about 4.5 mil max, and he's got the upside.

Pretty good proposal, but because I attribute a lot of Whitney's play last year to injury, the Florida pair have stagnated, and J-Bo would cost too much to re-sign, I'd pass.


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11-29-2008, 10:45 AM
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Sounds like a fair trade,I think Staal will break out once he gets to be a first liner and out from Crosby and Malkin's shadow.....plus he is a really good penalty killer.

Maybe add a first going back to Florida but that isn't to bad for Pittsburgh since it will be like the 25th pick.

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11-29-2008, 10:46 AM
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Pens take this and run.

We upgrade Whitney to Bouwmeeser and Staal to Horton.

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11-29-2008, 10:48 AM
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I really think its fair considering that JBo is a UFA after this year. Conditional pick to Florida depending on JBo resigning. That said, Florida won't trade Horton IMO.

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11-29-2008, 10:51 AM
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How about
Stall, Whitney, Sykora and a conditional first if Stall doesn't resign

Horton, J-Bow and a 2nd

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Horton and Staal have the same amount of points and Horton gets more pp time....this is only Staal's third year....I think Staal has way more potential.(IMHO)

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Horton > Staal

J-bo > Whitney


simple as that

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11-29-2008, 11:34 AM
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How about
Stall, Whitney, Sykora and a conditional first if Stall doesn't resign

Horton, J-Bow and a 2nd
DONE

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11-29-2008, 11:53 AM
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So what good does getting a No. 1 center do if you trade away his No. 1 winger?

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11-29-2008, 11:57 AM
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Staal and Eaton for J-Bo maybe?

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11-29-2008, 11:59 AM
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Staal and Eaton for J-Bo maybe?
That would kill the pens cap situation for next season. And if we don't re-sign J-Bo, then we'd be trading Staal for a rental. no dice.

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