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11-29-2008, 09:54 PM
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Ottawa Senators - New York Islanders

To Ottawa:
Mike Comrie ($4 million)

To New York Islanders:
Chris Neil ($1.1 million)
4th Round Draft Pick (2009)
Conditional 3rd Round Draft Pick (2010) if Comrie re-signs

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11-29-2008, 09:58 PM
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neil is garbage, comrie's not total garbage

counter proposal

to OTT: Mike Comrie
to NYI: Anton Volchenkov

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11-29-2008, 09:59 PM
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neil is garbage, comrie's not total garbage

counter proposal

to OTT: Mike Comrie
to NYI: Anton Volchenkov
Better, but the Isles are better off with a pick IMO. Or a bag of pucks.

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11-29-2008, 09:59 PM
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neil is garbage, comrie's not total garbage

counter proposal

to OTT: Mike Comrie
to NYI: Anton Volchenkov
Anton Volchenkov is a top 5 shutdown defenseman in the league signed to a cheap contract and his value is much higher than Comrie's.

Neil is one of the hardest hitters in the league, whereas Comrie is 'injured' and not playing with you guys, and apparently he hasn't been good. You said it yourself that his value is low right now. Going back to Ottawa where he played pretty good with Fisher would do him some good.

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11-29-2008, 10:04 PM
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To Ottawa:
Mike Comrie ($4 million)

To New York Islanders:
Chris Neil ($1.1 million)
4th Round Draft Pick (2009)
Conditional 3rd Round Draft Pick (2010) if Comrie re-signs
No deal

Neil provides toughness, hitting and protection for our big line, he would also be a big help in the playoffs where we need heavy-weights like him

Comrie is a soft, one-dimensional centerman who is too bad in his own zone to play center IMHO, not the kind of player you want on your team come playoff time

Not to mention is huge contract and that he is a UFA this year, just no thanks

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neil is garbage, comrie's not total garbage

counter proposal

to OTT: Mike Comrie
to NYI: Anton Volchenkov
Oh my I hope you weren't serious

Neil isn't garbage and Volchenkov >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comrie

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11-29-2008, 10:15 PM
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Neil is hardly garbage but how exactly does that proposal help the rebuilding Islanders?

The Volchenkov proposal, on the other hand, is just laughable.

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11-29-2008, 10:16 PM
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Neil is hardly garbage but how exactly does that proposal help the rebuilding Islanders?

The Volchenkov proposal, on the other hand, is just laughable.
Hey, hey, hey they get a 4th round draft pick!


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11-29-2008, 10:17 PM
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Neil is hardly garbage but how exactly does that proposal help the rebuilding Islanders?

The Volchenkov proposal, on the other hand, is just laughable.
A higher pick, additional picks, and dealing one of their skilled players who looks unmotivated.

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No deal

Neil provides toughness, hitting and protection for our big line, he would also be a big help in the playoffs where we need heavy-weights like him

Comrie is a soft, one-dimensional centerman who is too bad in his own zone to play center IMHO, not the kind of player you want on your team come playoff time

Not to mention is huge contract and that he is a UFA this year, just no thanks.
I don't think we have that much room for Neil next year, with Ruutu, and Bass set to make the team. If Comrie leaves after one year, it's not really that big of a loss, just a 4th round pick and a player we were probably not going to re-sign anyways. Pair him with one or two defensive stalwarts with speed (Vermette & Fisher) and he can thrive.

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11-29-2008, 10:22 PM
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Do my deal (Spacek and Afinogenov for Fisher and Smith) and then this one

Heatley - Spezza - Alfie
Comrie - Vermette - Afinogenov

That has to be the fastest line in the NHL right?

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11-29-2008, 10:27 PM
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Do my deal (Spacek and Afinogenov for Fisher and Smith) and then this one

Heatley - Spezza - Alfie
Comrie - Vermette - Afinogenov

That has to be the fastest line in the NHL right?
Meh, Fisher's speed is nothing to scoff at, and he's better defensively and is tougher.

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11-29-2008, 10:31 PM
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A higher pick, additional picks, and dealing one of their skilled players who looks unmotivated.



I don't think we have that much room for Neil next year, with Ruutu, and Bass set to make the team. If Comrie leaves after one year, it's not really that big of a loss, just a 4th round pick and a player we were probably not going to re-sign anyways. Pair him with one or two defensive stalwarts with speed (Vermette & Fisher) and he can thrive.
No, do you not get it? It does nothing for the Islanders, and if you posted this on their board you'd get mocked to no end. Give them something they could USE. They have no need for a checking forward who is 29 years old. A 4th rounder and a conditional 3rd rounder is hardly helpful either. At the deadline they could get something along the lines of a 2nd rounder (no condition) and a 4th rounder.

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11-29-2008, 10:33 PM
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No, do you not get it? It does nothing for the Islanders, and if you posted this on their board you'd get mocked to no end. Give them something they could USE. They have no need for a checking forward who is 29 years old. A 4th rounder and a conditional 3rd rounder is hardly helpful either. At the deadline they could get something along the lines of a 2nd rounder (no condition) and a 4th rounder.
Why would Comrie warrant a 2nd rounder when he isn't playing well? I'm approximating what he's worth right now.

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11-29-2008, 10:40 PM
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Do my deal (Spacek and Afinogenov for Fisher and Smith) and then this one

Heatley - Spezza - Alfie
Comrie - Vermette - Afinogenov

That has to be the fastest line in the NHL right?
Comrie is not a good skater at all.

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11-29-2008, 11:03 PM
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I would take the original deal. Comrie doesn't fit into the Isles squad and Neil is an alright player, but it would put Tim Jackman out of a job and he's been pretty effective all around. The picks probably make it worth it as Comrie could resign, I think he fits in pretty well in Ottawa in particular.

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11-29-2008, 11:19 PM
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Anton Volchenkov is a top 5 shutdown defenseman in the league signed to a cheap contract and his value is much higher than Comrie's.

Neil is one of the hardest hitters in the league, whereas Comrie is 'injured' and not playing with you guys, and apparently he hasn't been good. You said it yourself that his value is low right now. Going back to Ottawa where he played pretty good with Fisher would do him some good.
I hate the sens, but i agree with this

Although, Comrie isn't often injured, he's just had some bad luck this year.

Maybe

*Neil - and being a leaf fan i get to see this guy play a bunch. He is anything but garbage, he brings it ever shift.
*2nd - SJ's Second 2009
*2nd - Ottawa's Second 2009

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*Comrie
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11-29-2008, 11:22 PM
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Do my deal (Spacek and Afinogenov for Fisher and Smith) and then this one

Heatley - Spezza - Alfie
Comrie - Vermette - Afinogenov

That has to be the fastest line in the NHL right?
more like the line with "Flash but no finish"

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A couple of NYI fans must be drinking tonight.

Neil is not garbage, he fits an important role, and well.

Mike Comrie for Volchenkov? You'd likely have to pay a ton for the Sens to even consider moving Volchenkov...and Comrie, currently, is fodder.

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11-30-2008, 01:10 AM
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Do my deal (Spacek and Afinogenov for Fisher and Smith) and then this one

Heatley - Spezza - Alfie
Comrie - Vermette - Afinogenov

That has to be the fastest line in the NHL right?
Your trade is awful and Comrie isn't fast. That would be closer to the softest line in hockey. A Vermette-Fisher-Winchester line would be faster, more physical and more effective than your line. You don't seem to know much about hockey if you think Comrie-Vermette-Afinogenov is a good line.

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11-30-2008, 08:27 AM
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We don't need Comrie.
Comrie seemed to fit in here right away because he was roughly the same age as many other players and IIRC had crossed paths with Heatley at some point during their careers.
However, that 2nd line produced nothing during our SCF's run... I looked it up and our depth lines had something like 6, 6 and 5 goals leading up to Game 1 of the Finals. It didn't become a scoring line until Alfie was put on it. Comrie also barely played ofr us that postseason (was way down the list in AVG TOI).

What would the Islanders do with Neil? He's a UFA and they're probably not going to make the playoffs.

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11-30-2008, 09:34 AM
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Your trade is awful and Comrie isn't fast. That would be closer to the softest line in hockey. A Vermette-Fisher-Winchester line would be faster, more physical and more effective than your line. You don't seem to know much about hockey if you think Comrie-Vermette-Afinogenov is a good line.
I don't see what's so awful about my trade, Fisher is an underachieving, streaky, often-injured 3rd line centerman on most teams, Smith is terrible, I hope you know that right? Spacek would solve our puckmoving problems and Afinogenov would work well with either the Speatly line or with Vermette

And the line was a joke bud, sorry I didn't include a sarcasm smiley, I didn't think it was necessary but I guess I was wrong

Oh and who are you?

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11-30-2008, 01:21 PM
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What would the Islanders do with Neil? He's a UFA and they're probably not going to make the playoffs.
That's the point.

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I don't see what's so awful about my trade, Fisher is an underachieving, streaky, often-injured 3rd line centerman on most teams, Smith is terrible, I hope you know that right? Spacek would solve our puckmoving problems and Afinogenov would work well with either the Speatly line or with Vermette

And the line was a joke bud, sorry I didn't include a sarcasm smiley, I didn't think it was necessary but I guess I was wrong

Oh and who are you?
I agree with him... your proposal was terrible.

I would rather have Fisher than Spacek, definitely. And I would definitely rather have Smith than Afinogenov. Yes, I said it. Afinogenov is useless... unless you feel we're lacking players who don't score any points in our bottom 9.

There was also no indication you were kidding.

Our fans are so quick to throw guys under the bus.

I am interested in Comrie though.

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11-30-2008, 04:15 PM
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I think a fair deal would be Comrie for a 2nd rounder. I suspect that is what the Isles wind up with at the deadline.

I'd do the orginal proposal though, because I'm confident that Neil will be worth something at the deadline too.

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We don't need Comrie.
Comrie seemed to fit in here right away because he was roughly the same age as many other players and IIRC had crossed paths with Heatley at some point during their careers.
However, that 2nd line produced nothing during our SCF's run... I looked it up and our depth lines had something like 6, 6 and 5 goals leading up to Game 1 of the Finals. It didn't become a scoring line until Alfie was put on it. Comrie also barely played ofr us that postseason (was way down the list in AVG TOI).

What would the Islanders do with Neil? He's a UFA and they're probably not going to make the playoffs.
Because a big strong guy who can play will be a higly sought after commodity at the deadline. Isles can cash him in on a mid-round pick/prosect later on.

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I think a fair deal would be Comrie for a 2nd rounder. I suspect that is what the Isles wind up with at the deadline.

I'd do the orginal proposal though, because I'm confident that Neil will be worth something at the deadline too.
My guess is a 2nd and a 4th

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