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11-30-2008, 08:24 PM
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Right now, a first and a solid prospect.

next year, a first and a decent prospect.

I don't think he'll leave Toronto via a trade, unless they continuously pressure him to do so.

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To Florida: Kaberle + (what would need to be added)

To Toronto: Matthias, Horton, Stewart


Fits Burkes Preferences: (all 3) Big NA players, (2 are) Ontario Boys, (2 are) strong gritty players, (2 are) talented forwards.

This would hinge on Martin trading Bouwmeester to upgrade his forward lines.

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If I'm the Leafs I'm not dealing him for anything less then a young top 6 forward (preferrably Center), maybe someone around the age of 23-26, and a 1st Rounder in 2009 or 2010.

Anything less and he's better off keeping unitl his UFA year.

Makes perfect sense.

Why would Burke be in a rush to deal him anyway? Quality, just in his prime, relatively cheap. You build around his type, not dispense him, at least not hastily.


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If Phoenix threw a first and Tikhonov (which they won't), I would have no remorse at all in sending Kaberle and another (much lesser) piece their way. Phoenix looks to be seeing another top 15 pick, though, so can't see it either way.

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11-30-2008, 08:49 PM
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Before anybody responds to this, whether you think its bad for Toronto of bad for St. Louis, realize I've only seen one blues game this year.

So here goes:

To Toronto: Patty Berglund

To St. Louis: Kaberle

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11-30-2008, 08:52 PM
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Before anybody responds to this, whether you think its bad for Toronto of bad for St. Louis, realize I've only seen one blues game this year.

So here goes:

To Toronto: Patty Berglund

To St. Louis: Kaberle
I'd say Berglund is near untouchable.

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11-30-2008, 09:03 PM
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I'd say Berglund is near untouchable.
I don't really follow the Blues so thats basically why I'm throwing it out there.

Looking at his points now though he is on pace for 52, so he could easily be a PPG forward in his prime.

Probably a little much for Kabs.

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11-30-2008, 09:10 PM
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If Phoenix threw a first and Tikhonov (which they won't), I would have no remorse at all in sending Kaberle and another (much lesser) piece their way. Phoenix looks to be seeing another top 15 pick, though, so can't see it either way.
This would be a very fair trade, but will only come to fruition if the Coyotes are going to the playoffs, or are in serious contention for a spot. The Coyotes could use a puck moving defenceman of Kaberle's skillset to go along with the likes of Jovanovski, Michalek and Morris, though I could see them looking for more of a defensive stalwart. They would love to have a guy like Kaberle, especially at his fairly inexpensive salary. They also have young talent coming out of their ears, so they could lose a good prospect and draft pick, and really not lose much.

I could see this :

TO PHX :

Tomas Kaberle

TO TOR :

2009 1st Round Pick
Brett Maclean
Daniel Carcillo

Maclean is a Burke type player, Canadian, looks like he could be a very good top six winger if developed properly, and has been playing with the Generals so is a bit of a hometown kid. Carcillo is a young third/fourth line player, again fits the Burke mold well of a guy who is willing to do the dirty work, and plays with some real sandpaper, and can drop the gloves.

With the Coyotes already having the likes of Peter Mueller, Kyle Turris, Mikkel Boedker, Viktor Tikhonov, Enver Lisin, and Martin Hanzal, they have a young core of forwards and could lose one without a huge amount of heartache.

All falls in the line of the 1st rounder, good prospect, and a bottom 6 forward.

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11-30-2008, 09:11 PM
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This would be a very fair trade, but will only come to fruition if the Coyotes are going to the playoffs, or are in serious contention for a spot. The Coyotes could use a puck moving defenceman of Kaberle's skillset to go along with the likes of Jovanovski, Michalek and Morris, though I could see them looking for more of a defensive stalwart. They would love to have a guy like Kaberle, especially at his fairly inexpensive salary. They also have young talent coming out of their ears, so they could lose a good prospect and draft pick, and really not lose much.

I could see this :

TO PHX :

Tomas Kaberle

TO TOR :

2009 1st Round Pick
Brett Maclean
Daniel Carcillo

Maclean is a Burke type player, Canadian, looks like he could be a very good top six winger if developed properly, and has been playing with the Generals so is a bit of a hometown kid. Carcillo is a young third/fourth line player, again fits the Burke mold well of a guy who is willing to do the dirty work, and plays with some real sandpaper, and can drop the gloves.

With the Coyotes already having the likes of Peter Mueller, Kyle Turris, Mikkel Boedker, Viktor Tikhonov, Enver Lisin, and Martin Hanzal, they have a young core of forwards and could lose one without a huge amount of heartache.

All falls in the line of the 1st rounder, good prospect, and a bottom 6 forward.
Sold.


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Hey, another Kaberle thread. Geez, how many have there been.

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This would be a very fair trade, but will only come to fruition if the Coyotes are going to the playoffs, or are in serious contention for a spot. The Coyotes could use a puck moving defenceman of Kaberle's skillset to go along with the likes of Jovanovski, Michalek and Morris, though I could see them looking for more of a defensive stalwart. They would love to have a guy like Kaberle, especially at his fairly inexpensive salary. They also have young talent coming out of their ears, so they could lose a good prospect and draft pick, and really not lose much.

I could see this :

TO PHX :

Tomas Kaberle

TO TOR :

2009 1st Round Pick
Brett Maclean
Daniel Carcillo

Maclean is a Burke type player, Canadian, looks like he could be a very good top six winger if developed properly, and has been playing with the Generals so is a bit of a hometown kid. Carcillo is a young third/fourth line player, again fits the Burke mold well of a guy who is willing to do the dirty work, and plays with some real sandpaper, and can drop the gloves.

With the Coyotes already having the likes of Peter Mueller, Kyle Turris, Mikkel Boedker, Viktor Tikhonov, Enver Lisin, and Martin Hanzal, they have a young core of forwards and could lose one without a huge amount of heartache.

All falls in the line of the 1st rounder, good prospect, and a bottom 6 forward.
Sold & Wasn't Maclean tavares linemate in junior?

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Hey, another Kaberle thread. Geez, how many have there been.
One for each Management change....

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This would be a very fair trade, but will only come to fruition if the Coyotes are going to the playoffs, or are in serious contention for a spot. The Coyotes could use a puck moving defenceman of Kaberle's skillset to go along with the likes of Jovanovski, Michalek and Morris, though I could see them looking for more of a defensive stalwart. They would love to have a guy like Kaberle, especially at his fairly inexpensive salary. They also have young talent coming out of their ears, so they could lose a good prospect and draft pick, and really not lose much.

I could see this :

TO PHX :

Tomas Kaberle

TO TOR :

2009 1st Round Pick
Brett Maclean
Daniel Carcillo

Maclean is a Burke type player, Canadian, looks like he could be a very good top six winger if developed properly, and has been playing with the Generals so is a bit of a hometown kid. Carcillo is a young third/fourth line player, again fits the Burke mold well of a guy who is willing to do the dirty work, and plays with some real sandpaper, and can drop the gloves.

With the Coyotes already having the likes of Peter Mueller, Kyle Turris, Mikkel Boedker, Viktor Tikhonov, Enver Lisin, and Martin Hanzal, they have a young core of forwards and could lose one without a huge amount of heartache.

All falls in the line of the 1st rounder, good prospect, and a bottom 6 forward.
DEAL!

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Sold & Wasn't Maclean tavares linemate in junior?
Yes, he was - played with Tavares and Dale Mitchell in 06-07, then they took Mitchell off their line for 07-08 and he still produced like crazy, even had more points than Tavares. This season he has something like 15 points in 9 games, and is again one of the offensive leaders for the Generals. Will be interesting to see what happens when they trade Tavares.

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Yes, he was - played with Tavares and Dale Mitchell in 06-07, then they took Mitchell off their line for 07-08 and he still produced like crazy, even had more points than Tavares. This season he has something like 15 points in 9 games, and is again one of the offensive leaders for the Generals. Will be interesting to see what happens when they trade Tavares.
The Leafs Have Dale Mitchell already i believe, and if this deal went through wed have maclean then we could draft tavares wouldent that be something?

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The Leafs Have Dale Mitchell already i believe, and if this deal went through wed have maclean then we could draft tavares wouldent that be something?
Yup, our 3rd round pick in 2007. It would certainly be an interesting thing to have all 3 of them together... and the funny thing is they would all be, projectedly, ready for the NHL at roughly the same time, within 2-3 seasons of each other.

Nice, eh?

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This would be a very fair trade, but will only come to fruition if the Coyotes are going to the playoffs, or are in serious contention for a spot. The Coyotes could use a puck moving defenceman of Kaberle's skillset to go along with the likes of Jovanovski, Michalek and Morris, though I could see them looking for more of a defensive stalwart. They would love to have a guy like Kaberle, especially at his fairly inexpensive salary. They also have young talent coming out of their ears, so they could lose a good prospect and draft pick, and really not lose much.

I could see this :

TO PHX :

Tomas Kaberle

TO TOR :

2009 1st Round Pick
Brett Maclean
Daniel Carcillo

Maclean is a Burke type player, Canadian, looks like he could be a very good top six winger if developed properly, and has been playing with the Generals so is a bit of a hometown kid. Carcillo is a young third/fourth line player, again fits the Burke mold well of a guy who is willing to do the dirty work, and plays with some real sandpaper, and can drop the gloves.

With the Coyotes already having the likes of Peter Mueller, Kyle Turris, Mikkel Boedker, Viktor Tikhonov, Enver Lisin, and Martin Hanzal, they have a young core of forwards and could lose one without a huge amount of heartache.

All falls in the line of the 1st rounder, good prospect, and a bottom 6 forward.
It's a good proposal, but Toronto isn't getting anyone back who is proven. I'd say Toronto should add either Poni or White and get a Hanzel back in the deal as well. We need someone who is somewhat established with upside as well.

So I'd suggest...


Kaberle, Ponikarovsky

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Hanzel, 1st, Carcillo, McLean

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kaberle, antropov, ponikarovsky, tlusty

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Horton, J-Bo, ++

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To Toronto: David Clarkson, Nick Palmieri and 2009 1st round pick.

To New Jersey: Tomas Kaberle

Toronto gets native son, David Clarkson. A burke type player. Can score, hit and fight. They also add power forward prospect Palmieri, who could become a top 6 "Burke type" scorer. Essentially a Penner-type.

Wont happen, Lou wont make a trade. Intrguing none-the-less.

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To Toronto: David Clarkson, Nick Palmieri and 2009 1st round pick.

To New Jersey: Tomas Kaberle

Toronto gets native son, David Clarkson. A burke type player. Can score, hit and fight. They also add power forward prospect Palmieri, who could become a top 6 "Burke type" scorer. Essentially a Penner-type.

Wont happen, Lou wont make a trade. Intrguing none-the-less.
We'll add in Poni if you add in Bergfors +

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We'll add in Poni if you add in Bergfors +
No interest. We have Zubrus who is somewhat comparable to Poni and outside of Bergfors and Tedenby, NJ have few other offensive dynamo prospects.

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To Toronto: David Clarkson, Nick Palmieri and 2009 1st round pick.

To New Jersey: Tomas Kaberle

Toronto gets native son, David Clarkson. A burke type player. Can score, hit and fight. They also add power forward prospect Palmieri, who could become a top 6 "Burke type" scorer. Essentially a Penner-type.

Wont happen, Lou wont make a trade. Intrguing none-the-less.
I think Toronto has a surplus of third liners so Clarkson isnt a guy the Leafs really need.

I counter the offer :

Mattias Tedenby + Alexander Vasyunov

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Tomas Kaberle

New Jersey requires a puck moving defenseman, so a Mattias Tedenby would have to be involved in any trade discussion.

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Send him to Montreal for Gorges and a few picks.
Gorges sucks, no way this deal will happen.

If the Habs want Kabs, they'll have to pay a premium: Pacioretty and/or Fischer plus a First rounder.

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I think Toronto has a surplus of third liners so Clarkson isnt a guy the Leafs really need.

New Jersey requires a puck moving defenseman, so a Mattias Tedenby would have to be involved in any trade discussions along with a 1st rounder.
Kaberle would be an amazing talent to have, but Tedenby is going to be great. Respectfully decline.

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Changed my mnd. We'd need someone who is al ready somewhat proven with upside.

New offer...

Zajac, Clarkson, 1st in 09

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Kaberle


We could add Tlusty if you added Halischuk.

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