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12-03-2008, 02:21 PM
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Tom Wandell recalled from Timra to Stars.

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Tom Wandell recalled from Timra to Stars.
I saw somewhere that Wandell would have preferred to stay with Timra. I wonder if this has anything to do with Avery. The first time the possibility of him getting called up was brought up, it would only happen if more injuries occurred. The only thing that has changed sense then is the Avery suspension.

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I saw somewhere that Wandell would have preferred to stay with Timra. I wonder if this has anything to do with Avery. The first time the possibility of him getting called up was brought up, it would only happen if more injuries occurred. The only thing that has changed sense then is the Avery suspension.

Modano-Richards-Eriksson
Neal-Ribeiro-Parrish
Conner-Petersen-Brunnstrom
Barch-Wandell-Wilson

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First line never going to do anything... don't know how many games we are gonna waste their talents by forcing their chemistry.

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First line never going to do anything... don't know how many games we are gonna waste their talents by forcing their chemistry.
Didn't the first line win the Edmonton game the other day?

I'm not a fan of Modano and Richards' playing together, either. But that was a pretty bold statement to make.

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Ive been wanting to see Wandell for awhile now. Hope he scores a hattrick!!!!!! lol

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Mike Heika, on the DMN Blog, confirmed that Tom Wandell has been recalled.

He said he would be ready to play Wednesday, December 10th, against the Coyotes.

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Didn't the first line win the Edmonton game the other day?

I'm not a fan of Modano and Richards' playing together, either. But that was a pretty bold statement to make.
No, that was the powerplay. And it's a bold statement I'm willing to say after what I saw last year and this year. But knowing my luck, I bet Richards will set up Modano for a hat trick or something. So here's to my bad luck!

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Technically you are right, that was the PP, but it WAS Richards feeding Modano .

Haha, if that is a result of your bad luck, then by all means, have more of it.

And that is true, they've never really played well together, which is why I, like you, don't like seeing them together.

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The plan for Tom Wandell is to only be with Dallas through December 19th.

He would get to play in 5 games then:

December 10th vs. Phoenix
December 12th vs. Detroit
December 13th @ Nashville
December 16th vs. Phoenix
December 18th vs. Columbus

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Tippett's comments on Wandell's recall:

“I know him as a player from being at camps, we’ve always liked him, he’s an intelligent player ... I guess this year, he’s gone over and played very well over there. Right now, we’re down in bodies because of the injuries, so it’s a good time to look at him. He’s played mostly center this year, but he is a versatile player that way, he can jump around.”

Probably will see him on a wing it sounds like. Hey Mo, ready to take on another rookie?

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...so like I was saying, they wouldn't drag the guy all the way from Sweden just to sit or play in the AHL. Hope he shows us something, when we signed him years back I thought he'd end up being pretty much a spare, so it'll be interesting to see what becomes of him in the next 5 games, though they probably won't be indicative of a career.

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I'm not sure if he can translate his game in Sweden to the NHL. He has amazing club technique, that is NHL-standard no doubt. But can he cope with the higher tempo, if so he could be a great asset for Dallas. I'd use him as a center but i can understand if it's tough to grab one of those spots.

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I'm not sure if he can translate his game in Sweden to the NHL. He has amazing club technique, that is NHL-standard no doubt. But can he cope with the higher tempo, if so he could be a great asset for Dallas. I'd use him as a center but i can understand if it's tough to grab one of those spots.
They used him as a center on the 4th line during practice today:

Modano-Richards-Eriksson
Neal-Ribeiro-Parrish
Conner-Petersen-Brunnstrom
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They used him as a center on the 4th line during practice today:

Modano-Richards-Eriksson
Neal-Ribeiro-Parrish
Conner-Petersen-Brunnstrom
Barch-Wandell-Wilson
Still don't know why you pair Modano and Richards. I'm pretty sure even Tippett split them up last game.

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Still don't know why you pair Modano and Richards. I'm pretty sure even Tippett split them up last game.
Except for the fact that IS the pairs Tippett used in practice.

I didn't comment one way or the other on the lines. Thanks for reading my mind.

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They used him as a center on the 4th line during practice today:

Modano-Richards-Eriksson
Neal-Ribeiro-Parrish
Conner-Petersen-Brunnstrom
Barch-Wandell-Wilson
In fact, Dallas was 2-0 until the Edmonton game with that line. I know they didn't allow a goal against in the first 2 games, but I can't recall during the Edmonton game.

You're argument is that they are ineffective is flawed. While they haven't clicked offensively, they have been the most defensively responsible line on the time while together. That is not a total failure

Offensive chemistry takes time to develop, and won't happen with sporadic times together.

Furthermore, my point from 1 or 2 weeks ago was that Dallas didn't have enough wingers to support 3 solid lines. One of the centers would have to play with mediocre wingers. That is still true. If everyone is healthy, or at least everyone but Morrow, then 3 lines makes sense.


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Except for the fact that IS the pairs Tippett used in practice.

I didn't comment one way or the other on the lines. Thanks for reading my mind.



In fact, Dallas was 2-0 until the Edmonton game with that line. I know they didn't allow a goal against in the first 2 games, but I can't recall during the Edmonton game.

You're argument is that they are ineffective is flawed. While they haven't clicked offensively, they have been the most defensively responsible line on the time while together. That is not a total failure

Offensive chemistry takes time to develop, and won't happen with sporadic times together.

Furthermore, my point from 1 or 2 weeks ago was that Dallas didn't have enough wingers to support 3 solid lines. One of the centers would have to play with mediocre wingers. That is still true. If everyone is healthy, or at least everyone but Morrow, then 3 lines makes sense.
Agreed, Modano will stay at wing till there is a better supporting cast, even if they haven't clicked yet it is better to have skill with skill than separate lines of skill with scrub. Petersen has also given the top lines a little more time to try to click with his surprisingly productive play of late.

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Except for the fact that IS the pairs Tippett used in practice.

I didn't comment one way or the other on the lines. Thanks for reading my mind.



In fact, Dallas was 2-0 until the Edmonton game with that line. I know they didn't allow a goal against in the first 2 games, but I can't recall during the Edmonton game.

You're argument is that they are ineffective is flawed. While they haven't clicked offensively, they have been the most defensively responsible line on the time while together. That is not a total failure

Offensive chemistry takes time to develop, and won't happen with sporadic times together.

Furthermore, my point from 1 or 2 weeks ago was that Dallas didn't have enough wingers to support 3 solid lines. One of the centers would have to play with mediocre wingers. That is still true. If everyone is healthy, or at least everyone but Morrow, then 3 lines makes sense.
That is the weakest arguement for a stacking a first line. Okay? You stack lines for production, not so they don't make a mistake. You are wasting their talents because they do not play well together. This isn't a video game; some players just don't work well with one another.

Offensive chemistry didn't take long for Morrow-Ribeiro or Richards-Eriksson. Why do you need to wait/force "chemistry" between two players that are probably going to split up sometime this month when warm bodies start coming back?

I don't care if Tippett keeps going back to them; show me the production. That is why you stack lines with your best talent. To score points. Not to say, "Oh, they didn't make a mistake tonight! Victory!"

I kept waiting to be proven wrong, but they really haven't done one thing even-stength that shows they have any connection on the ice.

Waste, of, talent. You are creating an invisible line.

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That is the weakest arguement for a stacking a first line. Okay? You stack lines for production, not so they don't make a mistake. You are wasting their talents because they do not play well together. This isn't a video game; some players just don't work well with one another.

Offensive chemistry didn't take long for Morrow-Ribeiro or Richards-Eriksson. Why do you need to wait/force "chemistry" between two players that are probably going to split up sometime this month when warm bodies start coming back?

I don't care if Tippett keeps going back to them; show me the production. That is why you stack lines with your best talent. To score points. Not to say, "Oh, they didn't make a mistake tonight! Victory!"

I kept waiting to be proven wrong, but they really haven't done one thing even-stength that shows they have any connection on the ice.

Waste, of, talent. You are creating an invisible line.
I didn't realize Tippett and I were having discussions about line combinations!!!

You do realize that once again those were Tippet's lines from practice. I didn’t pull these lines out of my ***. I have not posted anything about lines because I wanted to avoid your regurgitated attack. I was only pointing out that the PRACTICE LINES indicated Wandell would play at center.

For some reason you just refuse to address the main point of my posts though:

The team does not have the forwards to carry 3 lines. One center would have to play with inferior wingers.

I've ignored you for a few weeks on this, and now I won't talk about it again.

Jesus, you present the same argument over and over. Your point was made two weeks ago. There is no need to constantly rehash it.

Finally, I never said offense was insignificant. I said it was inaccurate to call a line ineffective because of it. For a team that hasn't been scoring goals, defense is the most important area of play.

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I didn't realize Tippett and I were having discussions about line combinations!!!

You do realize that once again those were Tippet's lines from practice. I didn’t pull these lines out of my ***. I have not posted anything about lines because I wanted to avoid your regurgitated attack. I was only pointing out that the PRACTICE LINES indicated Wandell would play at center.

For some reason you just refuse to address the main point of my posts though:

The team does not have the forwards to carry 3 lines. One center would have to play with inferior wingers.

I've ignored you for a few weeks on this, and now I won't talk about it again.

Jesus, you present the same argument over and over. Your point was made two weeks ago. There is no need to constantly rehash it.

Finally, I never said offense was insignificant. I said it was inaccurate to call a line ineffective because of it. For a team that hasn't been scoring goals, defense is the most important area of play.
I admit I misread your original post, but it doesn't matter to me that you didn't create the line combinations. It's the fact you defend the pairing of Modano-Richards. Regardless of the team's shortage of bodies, you don't have to pair them together. Try Ribeiro with Modano or Richards. Try something different. I don't know what Tippett sees in this line (other than them not making a mistake?) because they are not producing as a team's number one line in talent.

I'm not attacking you. I'm more frustrated at Tippett.

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...so like I was saying, they wouldn't drag the guy all the way from Sweden just to sit or play in the AHL. Hope he shows us something, when we signed him years back I thought he'd end up being pretty much a spare, so it'll be interesting to see what becomes of him in the next 5 games, though they probably won't be indicative of a career.
I think you mean drafted, not signed. Also, I wouldn't get too hung up on dates mentioned by his Swedish club. The Stars are in a period of flux right now with injuries and Avery's situation, not to mention the on-ice team play, which is better of late.

In a season like this, the team may as well look at promising young players. I sort of wonder if Wandell goes back to Sweden at all, as I imagine the Stars would like him to be as comfortable as possible with the North American game with the smaller ice, etc. His rate of production for Timra is pretty impressive, and given the way he finished strong last season in Iowa, I think he has raised some eyebrows within the organization.

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Well I know we drafted him, but I remember us signing him and thinking he wouldn't be much of anything, that's all I was saying.

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Summing up Wandell's debut, he played a shade under 6 minutes which ended up being less than his linemates Barch and Wilson. All of that came at even strength. He took a beating in the faceoff circle going 1-6. He also got kicked out of one which Wilson subsequently lost.

I thought his overall play was strong... the 4th line didn't really get hemmed in too badly and generally kept the play toward Phoenix's end. Flashes of his quick skating stride were apparent. Seemed to be really concerned with keeping his shifts short.

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Wandells technique and balance enables him to get past his opponents frequently (atleast in the slower tempo of SEL), it's going to be interesting to see if he can do the same thing in the NHL.

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