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12-04-2008, 10:59 AM
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Lak/cbj

TO LAK:Leclaire, Chimera, Novotny, 1st in '09
TO CBJ:Kopitar

This would give LA, according to Ken Hitchcock, Columbus' "best player" last season - A quick goalie with big-time upside to compliment their high-potential young D. In addition, they would get a 2nd-line forward with elite speed and a great contract(8 million over 4 years), a young, bottom-6 center/wing and a 1st-round draft pick in a deep draft year.

For Columbus, it would give Rick Nash a young but very talented center who is a very much like a pass-first version of himself, while keeping Brassard and Voracek developing chemistry together on the second line.


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LA says: **** NO

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12-04-2008, 11:01 AM
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lol, No even worth it to try an counter.

They're not good trading partners IMO.

I could be proved wrong though.

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12-04-2008, 11:05 AM
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LA never gives away Kopitar

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12-04-2008, 11:07 AM
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LA never gives away Kopitar
If he keeps missing open nets next year when he is worth 6.8 million and/or if they don't make the playoffs over the next couple, that may not stand true. If LA can get a franchise goalie, secondary scoring, a first-rounder and cap room to sign another elite player for Kopitar, they might do it.

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12-04-2008, 11:10 AM
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If he keeps missing open nets next year when he is worth 6.8 million and/or if they don't make the playoffs over the next couple, that may not be true.
LA doesn't seem to have many players that hit the net more than him now do they?

He's not going anyyyyyyyyyywhere. He's one of the best underrated players in the NHL.

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12-04-2008, 11:16 AM
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LA doesn't seem to have many players that hit the net more than him now do they?

He's not going anyyyyyyyyyywhere. He's one of the best underrated players in the NHL.
Kopitar hits the net on occasion, but he's much better at getting other people to hit the net, which hasn't been happening for LA much lately. Anyway, he probably won't ever get traded. I do think he and Nash are probably the two best young, jumbo-sized skill players in the league. Hence the reason why it would be such an exciting trade if they could make that happen.

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12-04-2008, 11:19 AM
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If Leclaire were a franchise goalie he wouldn't be traded.

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12-04-2008, 11:21 AM
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Kopitar hits the net on occasion, but he's much better at getting other people to hit the net, which hasn't been happening for LA much lately. Anyway, he probably won't ever get traded. I do think he and Nash are probably the two best young, jumbo-sized skill players in the league. Hence the reason why it would be such an exciting trade if they could make that happen.
It's not exciting for LA...They have Jonathan Bernier coming up at goaltender to be their franchise goalie, and I'd say he was supposed to be the best asset in that deal. The other guys, meh. The 1st is nice but not for Kopitar or anything.

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12-04-2008, 11:22 AM
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If he keeps missing open nets next year when he is worth 6.8 million and/or if they don't make the playoffs over the next couple, that may not stand true. If LA can get a franchise goalie, secondary scoring, a first-rounder and cap room to sign another elite player for Kopitar, they might do it.
still makes no sense.

Why do they need Chimera and Novotny? you say secondary scoring, but behind Kopitar, they have O'Sullivan, Frolov, Brown, Stoll, and Handzus - that's 6 forwards to plug into your top 6... then they have a few good young players that are still improving - Moller, Boyle, and Prucell, who could play bigger roles for them in the near future...

in goal, they have a quality young prospect in Bernier as well, which, considering how young the team overall is, makes more sense to work through his development, than give up your best player for a goalie now.

LA is very much a rebuilding team... and they have several young pieces that have tons of potential they can build around.... the right thing for that franchise to do is have the patience to see that development through.

Chimera and Novotny don't help them much... they'd basically be taking the spots of young players that need more development time (such as Moller)... and Leclaire is a good young goalie, but hardly enough to trade a franchise player like Kopitar for, and he's basically lost his starting job in Columbus as well - his stock is not likely to be as high as you think... and while the 1st rounder is always attractive, especially from a non-playoff team (which Columbus seems to be every year).

Kopitar is a player that LA wants to and needs to build around... he's no different than Nash is to Columbus - a guy that they don't want to trade and are still trying to build their offense around him... like for Nash, it would take a massive overpayment to convince LA to move him - and there's no one on Columbus, even Nash, that makes it worthwhile for LA to do that.

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12-04-2008, 11:24 AM
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12-04-2008, 11:28 AM
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Instead of Kopitar, what about Preissing? The Jackets need a PPQB more than anything right now, especially one with a right-handed shot. Is it realistic at all that he could be moved this season?

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12-04-2008, 11:35 AM
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If Leclaire were a franchise goalie he wouldn't be traded.
Leclaire was set to be the guy in Columbus for years after signing a contract through 2011 and narrowly missing the all-star game last year with 9 shutouts on the year with a .920 save percentage. At the beginning of this year he received a minor injury and sat out. Backup Norrena filled in, but played very poorly, so Mason came up. Since then, he has been nothing less than a freak at goalie. It is not that Leclaire is not and will not be a franchise goalie, but rather that Steve Mason is exploding much earlier than anyone expected.

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12-04-2008, 01:00 PM
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Speaking as a diehard LAK fan* and having no significant interest in the success of the CBJ**, I would gladly accept this more than fair*** proposal, as Kopitar would fit in nicely with our current roster**** and LAK could use a goalie as sturdy*****, consistent****** and proven******* as Pascal.

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12-04-2008, 01:05 PM
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It is not that Leclaire is not and will not be a franchise goalie, but rather that Steve Mason is exploding much earlier than anyone expected.
That's only half true. I don't think anybody expected Mase to be as good as he's been, but Pascal really has not looked very good - certainly not as good as hoped/expected - for any significant length of time this season.

It may be that the injury is nagging, but that opens up a whole other can of fish, as the label of "injury prone" will be stuck to him and, at this point, rightly so.

Simply put, LeClaire is what his stats say he is, for true. He's a great goalie right up to the moment when he's not or stumbling off the ice, holding his groin.

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Instead of Kopitar, what about Preissing? The Jackets need a PPQB more than anything right now, especially one with a right-handed shot. Is it realistic at all that he could be moved this season?
The Kings moving Preissing is highly realistic. LA wouldn't mind freeing up the final two years of his deal (2.75 mil per) and using that money towards locking up Jack Johnson. It depends on when Johnson comes back and if the Kings have a realistic shot at making the playoffs come deadline time. But I'd expect the Kings to deal Preissing eventually to make room for Hickey/Teubert, although it might be premature to assume both are NHL ready next season.

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Terrible proposal. Kopitar should be a King for the next decade.

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12-04-2008, 01:29 PM
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If Leclaire were a franchise goalie he wouldn't be traded.

Luongo agrees.

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12-04-2008, 01:41 PM
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Luongo agrees.
To be fair...Luongo was traded because of contract issues...FLA knew he wasn't going to re-sign

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12-04-2008, 01:55 PM
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The only way this MIGHT happen:

To LA:
Brassard
Voracek
Leclaire

To Columbus:
Kopitar

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12-04-2008, 02:05 PM
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The only way this MIGHT happen:

To LA:
Brassard
Voracek
Leclaire

To Columbus:
Kopitar
Brassard + either Voracek or Leclaire would be overpayment, let alone all three.

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12-04-2008, 02:11 PM
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So Columbus' damaged goods for the Kings franchise player.

Leclaire was the CBJ's best player last season, but he's not even their best goalie this season.

And which is the 2nd line player you speak of that the Kings get back? If Novotny and/or Chimera are 2nd line players to the Blue Jackets, it might explain why they've never made the playoffs.

Think about it

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The Kings moving Preissing is highly realistic. LA wouldn't mind freeing up the final two years of his deal (2.75 mil per) and using that money towards locking up Jack Johnson. It depends on when Johnson comes back and if the Kings have a realistic shot at making the playoffs come deadline time. But I'd expect the Kings to deal Preissing eventually to make room for Hickey/Teubert, although it might be premature to assume both are NHL ready next season.
Based on the premise that LA is looking to free up some cap space for signing Johnson long term, how about LA trading Preissing for the Jackets for OK Tollefsen and a 4th rounder? OK is making about $700,000 this season and will be an RFA next year.

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Maybe you should change you name to PosterWithoutABrain

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