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12-05-2008, 10:36 AM
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What will happen with Avery?

So what do people think is going to happen with Avery?

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12-05-2008, 10:37 AM
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He will probably have 3 more threads created today about him.

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buyout most likely----Hicks nor the Stars want him back and no respected franchise in any league would want him playing w/ their prospects.

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Probably has the worst trade value in the league right now.

Buyout imminent.

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Retire and produce a clothing line and become a permanent addition to the fashion industry and likely get mocked while he is there.

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i say he gets tossed on waivers.. and a team thats got nothing going for them picks him up. nashville?

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Retire and produce a clothing line and become a permanent addition to the fashion industry and likely get mocked while he is there.
Get into recycled clothing Business and call "Sloppy Seconds" clothing.

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12-05-2008, 11:00 AM
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Avery needs to do the league a favor and just leave. He is actually a good player and would be an ideal energy 3rd line player who can score too but he goes way over line all the time. He is a discrace to the NHL and maybe play in a bar league where that stuff will be cute.

If he could be a pest similar to an Esa Tikkenan and shut up off the ice then his value of a 3rd line energy player would be pretty good because he can score and skate.

But having had him on the Kings and seeing how he is growing to be and how Dallas and the Kings locker rooms couldn't stand him, I hope he realizes what an idiot he is and looks like on the ice and tries another career. Maybe he can do a show like Ashton Kutcher or something.

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What exactly happens if a buyout is used?

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What exactly happens if a buyout is used?
under the cba they pay 2/3rd of his remaining contract over twice as long as the remaining time and it does count vs the cap

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What exactly happens if a buyout is used?
Ordinary Buyouts (as opposed to the one time Complience Buyouts last offseason) are pretty much the same as they were under the old CBA:

2/3's of the remaining salary (1/3 if player is under 26yo) paid out over 2x the remaining number of years on the contract.

Buyouts do count against the cap, but it is not just a straight forward Buyout Dollars/Buyout Years, due to the way salaries are averaged over multi year deals for cap purposes. If the actual salary paid on the deal prior to the buyout is more than the cap averaged salary for those years (ie the averaging gave them a cap discount), then that discount is counted against the cap over the remaining life of the original contract in addition to the actual buyout dollars over the 2x term. The converse is true - if the amout paid was less than the averaged cap hit, they get a cap credit back against the buyout.

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The Sharks new 4th line?

Avery-Roenick-C. Lemieux


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So what do people think is going to happen with Avery?
While no one may care, I'll give the textbook public relations "spin" route his publicist will give him if the person follow traditional PR tactics (based on the apology that was issued that Avery obviously did not write, he is taking advice from a PR person right now - it was a textbook PR apology and hit all the right points).

1. He'll continue to take anger management classes (he needs to have a visible effort that he is trying to fix his problems)
2. He'll apologize to his team in person
3. He'll issue a more detailed apology to fans and peers quickly, admit he did wrong, and make a donation to a women's cause and acknowledge that his comments were far more hurtful than he had intended (this is not my opinion, this is what a PR person would TELL him to say and do)
4. He'll look to do a live broadcast interview in a high profile setting and be extremely humble and apologetic; he'd have to be very, very media trained to pull this off and have to look like a changed man; he may even admit he has some kind of problem, and vow to help others with that same problem.
5. He'll lobby to get the support of a handful of high profile players who will communicate to the media and their peers that he has learned a lesson and changed his behavior
6. Most important: He won't make the same mistake again and will change the parts of his behavior that are bad.

In the PR world, executives and companies can only hope to win back approval by admitting they were wrong, being totally honest and humble, attempting to make amends through actions not words, being transparent and honest in a public venue and then correcting the behavior. This is the advice his publicist is giving him. Whether or not he listens is up to him. Many people in his position will say "why can't I just lay low for awhile and when this blows over go back to being Sean Avery." If his publicist gets on board with this, he should be fired.

I don't really care either way, just wanted to share what I am guessing he's being told, as it sounds like he has a publicist working on this for him.

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12-05-2008, 11:44 AM
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Thinking about this more he is one of those guys that likes drama and needs to cause it to get back in the spotlight when he isn't in it. He reminds me of a Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan or even Brittney Spears who has to do stupid things now to get back in the media spotlight instead of getting back in it in a positive way.

They need this drama to keep the show going for them. Hopefully all the nhl teams will say "Too bad Avery. You are done in the NHL because no one wants you here anymore". Wish Hollywood would do the same to the others I mentioned.

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LOL imagine him doing something nuts, Wilson jumping over the boards to knock Avery out. How many games would a coach do for that? He isn't classified as a player and he wouldn't be going out there to do anything the opposing team would have any beef with.

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While no one may care, I'll give the textbook public relations "spin" route his publicist will give him if the person follow traditional PR tactics (based on the apology that was issued that Avery obviously did not write, he is taking advice from a PR person right now - it was a textbook PR apology and hit all the right points).

1. He'll continue to take anger management classes (he needs to have a visible effort that he is trying to fix his problems)
2. He'll apologize to his team in person
3. He'll issue a more detailed apology to fans and peers quickly, admit he did wrong, and make a donation to a women's cause and acknowledge that his comments were far more hurtful than he had intended (this is not my opinion, this is what a PR person would TELL him to say and do)
4. He'll look to do a live broadcast interview in a high profile setting and be extremely humble and apologetic; he'd have to be very, very media trained to pull this off and have to look like a changed man; he may even admit he has some kind of problem, and vow to help others with that same problem.
5. He'll lobby to get the support of a handful of high profile players who will communicate to the media and their peers that he has learned a lesson and changed his behavior
6. Most important: He won't make the same mistake again and will change the parts of his behavior that are bad.

In the PR world, executives and companies can only hope to win back approval by admitting they were wrong, being totally honest and humble, attempting to make amends through actions not words, being transparent and honest in a public venue and then correcting the behavior. This is the advice his publicist is giving him. Whether or not he listens is up to him. Many people in his position will say "why can't I just lay low for awhile and when this blows over go back to being Sean Avery." If his publicist gets on board with this, he should be fired.

I don't really care either way, just wanted to share what I am guessing he's being told, as it sounds like he has a publicist working on this for him.

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He does have a publicist working for him.

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The Sharks new 4th line?

Avery-Roenick-C. Lemieux

Hey this would be a line made up of my least favourite players ever.

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He will go to Detroit for nothing and become a model player posting consecutive 80 point seasons and become Muslim.

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In the PR world, executives and companies can only hope to win back approval by admitting they were wrong, being totally honest and humble, attempting to make amends through actions not words, being transparent and honest in a public venue and then correcting the behavior. This is the advice his publicist is giving him. Whether or not he listens is up to him. Many people in his position will say "why can't I just lay low for awhile and when this blows over go back to being Sean Avery." If his publicist gets on board with this, he should be fired.

I don't really care either way, just wanted to share what I am guessing he's being told, as it sounds like he has a publicist working on this for him.

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This sounds about right. Despite his ego and his antics, Sean Avery is a talented hockey player, you can't deny that about a guy who can score 20 goals in the NHL. If he wants to keep collecting an NHL salary all he has to do is put his ego in check, for good this time, otherwise no dressing room will want him. And he can still be an agitator on the ice of course.

Or if he wants to keep being Sean Avery he can collect his buyout and go work for Vogue full time or something. Though this will likely cost him his 'star' status and the spotlight, so its likely lose lose either way for him.

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Publicist, Schmublicist. Avery is an Arsehat and everyone in the league knows that. He cant change what he is, its his personality. I think a buyout or Marbury is coming and no team will touch him with a ten foot pole. I think his NHL days are over.

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Hey remember what 'fixed' Roenick here. The guy went from being a humungous ass to probably the single best locker room presense on the Sharks.

Be humiliated, realize no one wants anything to do with you , accept your mistakes and move on... then be given one more chance without having to even ask.

The biggest difference between Roenick and Avery though is... Roenick has two IQ points to rub together. Avery is a moron, which other players have 'noted' who played with him. He won't learn from his mistakes, he'll try and put on a show, no one will believe him, and he will dwindle away into obscurity.

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Hey remember what 'fixed' Roenick here. The guy went from being a humungous ass to probably the single best locker room presense on the Sharks.
He was an ass? Did I miss that?

During his stint in Philly he was loved by media and fans alike. He had a goofy quirk about him that played practical jokes and what not...but the numbers were also there. No one wanted him to go and if there werent a few beloved Flyers veterans ahead of him he would have been captain, because he already was a clubhouse leader.

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buyout most likely----Hicks nor the Stars want him back and no respected franchise in any league would want him playing w/ their prospects.
Because he said sloppy seconds? For god sake people are friggin sensitive.

I mean out of the long history of screwed up things this guy has said/done this has to be at the very bottom of the list for me yet everyone is acting like he killed someone.

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