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12-09-2008, 08:07 PM
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Where you trying to piss him off? LOL

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Luke Schenn is pretty overrated IMO.
Hes better than Doughty in his own end and playing 20+ minutes a night at 19, just like your lord and savior. I'd hardly call that overrated, overexposed maybe, but not overrated.

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12-09-2008, 09:08 PM
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So Schenn is a stay at home defensive defenceman now?

Must explain his -6. Or wait.....


Leafs homers are the best.
Are you an idiot honestly?

Because you sure sound like one

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12-09-2008, 09:27 PM
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Are you an idiot honestly?

Because you sure sound like one
Hey now, dont make fun of the slow kids

Its not like Chris Phillips is a -10 or anything, I guess hes an offensive defenseman now

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12-13-2008, 03:30 PM
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Leafs fans likely overrate Luke Schenn as much as Canucks fans overrate Alex Edler. Both are good young defencemen who are still learning their position at the highest level. I think it would be unwise to deal either of them at this stage. It's rare that rookie / sophmore defencemen can be relied upon to play a top 4 role on their teams in hockey mad markets. Rookies make mistakes and Luke Schenn may not be perfect but he's a good shut down defenceman. He takes the body, has a mean streak, and likes to hit. Trouble is he may be taking himself out of the play to take the body. Likewise Alex Edler is making some bone head plays too, especially on the PP when he cannot seem to get a shot through to the net.

In general HF posters tend to overrate prospects and when after 1/4 of their rookie seasons they are not playing like super all stars they are spat upon by fans of other teams and defended vehemently by the fans of their team. Schenn will be a good defencemen and will develop a offensive game to some extent. Right now he should just focus on playing good, simple, hockey in his own end.

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12-13-2008, 04:20 PM
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So Schenn is a stay at home defensive defenceman now?

Must explain his -6. Or wait.....


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12-13-2008, 05:07 PM
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If he is not suppose to be an offensive defenceman then what is he? He is -6? So much for being a defensive dman :p. Compare to Doughty, Luke is nothing :p. Doughty is good defensively and offensively.

You guys should of drafted Filatov or Boedker.
I still don't get why Fletcher picked Schenn over the other talent. He isn't even a defensive dman. Toughness? so what.
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Meh. Not much. He has 2 points on the season, is a minue player, and does not do much during a game.

Tons Tons Tosn of better defenceman rookies the last couple years.

Luke has got to be one of the most overrated picks ever, but it being the Leafs that is to be expected.
Either you 2 are the same person (the way you post so close to each other every time gives it away) or this is more proof that N00b's with under 500 posts should not be taken seriously

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12-13-2008, 05:58 PM
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I love how ppl say he cant be a shut down D just bc hes a (-) player... all you need to do is look at Chris Phillips long considered one of the best shut down guys in nhl and hes like a -13.... +/- is more of an indicator of the team you play with ex look how many ppl have a good + of the sharks and wings...

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12-13-2008, 06:50 PM
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Rod Brind'Amour must be one of the worst defensive player in the history of the NHL. I mean just look at his -21! No wonder he has never won the Selke Trophy.

O wait.

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12-13-2008, 07:15 PM
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Hes better than Doughty in his own end and playing 20+ minutes a night at 19, just like your lord and savior. I'd hardly call that overrated, overexposed maybe, but not overrated.
Please don't compare him to doughty.... Doughty is way better in his own end. I've seen to many times luke schenn get beat. He plays alot of minutes because leafs have crap defense...Excluding Kaberle ofcourse. Kaberle is a star

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Leafs fans likely overrate Luke Schenn as much as Canucks fans overrate Alex Edler. Both are good young defencemen who are still learning their position at the highest level. I think it would be unwise to deal either of them at this stage. It's rare that rookie / sophmore defencemen can be relied upon to play a top 4 role on their teams in hockey mad markets. Rookies make mistakes and Luke Schenn may not be perfect but he's a good shut down defenceman. He takes the body, has a mean streak, and likes to hit. Trouble is he may be taking himself out of the play to take the body. Likewise Alex Edler is making some bone head plays too, especially on the PP when he cannot seem to get a shot through to the net.

In general HF posters tend to overrate prospects and when after 1/4 of their rookie seasons they are not playing like super all stars they are spat upon by fans of other teams and defended vehemently by the fans of their team. Schenn will be a good defencemen and will develop a offensive game to some extent. Right now he should just focus on playing good, simple, hockey in his own end.


At least edler gets points

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12-13-2008, 07:50 PM
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How has this thread not been closed yet? Sheesh. TO say Scheen is garbage is just being a hater, to say he's a god is being a homer, the truth lies in the middle. Ideally he becomes Scott Stevens.

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12-13-2008, 08:00 PM
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I wouldn't even give Sbisa for Schenn, but I would for Doughty.

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12-13-2008, 08:02 PM
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How has this thread not been closed yet? Sheesh. TO say Scheen is garbage is just being a hater, to say he's a god is being a homer, the truth lies in the middle. Ideally he becomes Scott Stevens.
If Crosby was on the Leafs he would be overrated.

Schenn is just getting the inferiority complex treatment.

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12-14-2008, 04:59 PM
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At least edler gets points
Edler is also 3 years older with close to100 games more experience than Schenn as well. He also gets more PP time. But that's taking my arguement in another direction. I was simply stating both players are overrated by their teams and both make mistakes quite often and shouldn't be pilloried by their haters.

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Well...we have our answer...10 first round picks...

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Well...we have our answer...10 first round picks...
Actually, we know he'd ship his a$$ out quick as lightning for 10... so I'd wager it's lower than that.

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I wouldn't even give Sbisa for Schenn, but I would for Doughty.
You'd be stupid not to give Sbisa for Schenn.

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02-17-2009, 09:15 PM
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You'd be stupid not to give Sbisa for Schenn.
He is stupid though so that's a moot point.

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02-17-2009, 09:40 PM
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If Crosby was on the Leafs he would be overrated.

Schenn is just getting the inferiority complex treatment.
Cuz crosby isn't at all the most overatted player of all time...

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02-17-2009, 10:01 PM
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Cuz crosby isn't at all the most overatted player of all time...
No, I really think that honour belongs to Kovalev. I mean, he was voted to start in the All-Star game (albeit with probable ballot stuffing), and now he is benched for 2 games. And it's not like this is new with him, before last season, I'm pretty sure many Habs fans were willing to drive him to his new destination, as long as they got rid of him.

As for Schenn's value, you can't trade him for 10 1st round picks, they'd all be 30th overall, because he'd carry his team to the Stanley Cup each year for the next 15 years. Anything short of 25 first rounders + 15 2nd rounders + the team's top 5 prospects is underpayment. (do I really need the sarcastic smiley here? lol)

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According to Brian Burke in TSN TradeCenter 09 preview, he said if someone offers 10 1st round picks then Schenn is on the plane tomorrow. So I guess his value is 10 1st round picks.

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Anyways that garbage of yours have more goals than any of your current players. Thanks for the garbage . Wellwood has been a great asset.
Hows that "asset" turning out for ya now LOL

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Hows that "asset" turning out for ya now LOL
not bad considering he was free

14g and has 3 SO goals

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Wow, Leafs fans get trolled hard for 9 solid pages.

Anyway, I can't help but think that Schenn isn't anything special. I certainly haven't seen any flashes of brilliance... let alone anything to justify the worship that goes on around HFboards.

I honestly don't see Schenn as anything more than a top four defensemen on any decent team.

His value? Well, if he really is injured... I can't imagine it would be too high. Plus the Leafs are already ruining his development by rushing him to the big game when he quite plainly isn't ready.

If he was healthy, you could probably get a first rounder for him. Nothing in the top 15 though.

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