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12-07-2008, 10:15 PM
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When i said "Euhhh.. Lang?" i mean, we already got Lang as the big C.

I didnt say to trade Lang for Horton..
Ya, but he's clearly not a long term thing. He's a plug for this year. Horton would be the long term big C.

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12-07-2008, 10:16 PM
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I'd trade Plekanec LONG before Higgins. Higgins doesn't disappear at playoff time and he can contribute in other ways than offense.
Plek is also a two-way player but honestly, i'd rather have horton for plek then horton for higgins.

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12-07-2008, 10:32 PM
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how about blockbuster

horton and boumester for
higgins-o`burn-lang-latendresse-halak + mcdonagh
would florida consider this?lang would have to go because of cap room.

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12-07-2008, 10:50 PM
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Honestly.....and I'll be blasted for thinking it.....but I would seriously think about a package involving Plekanec.
Agreed. We have too many dipsy-doodlers, players who like to stick handle with the puck and not enough quality grit who can score. Not a knock against Plekanec, simply that he's in the same mold as Kovalev, the Kostitsyn's, Tanguay, Koivu... Get a true power forward to complement our dipsy-doodlers!

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I'd do that in a heart beat.
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Agreed. We have too many dipsy-doodlers, players who like to stick handle with the puck and not enough quality grit who can score. Not a knock against Plekanec, simply that he's in the same mold as Kovalev, the Kostitsyn's, Tanguay, Koivu... Get a true power forward to complement our dipsy-doodlers!
A would also put D'Agostini in that group, why?
He has'nt been slashed, cross-checked, rough up by d-men like Chara or Pronger for a entire game yet.So it is still to be seen what he can put up with.

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12-08-2008, 12:17 AM
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damn, where Plekanec, the PPG man?

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12-08-2008, 12:34 AM
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how about blockbuster

horton and boumester for
higgins-o`burn-lang-latendresse-halak + mcdonagh
would florida consider this?lang would have to go because of cap room.
Hell no!

Horton>higgins
Boumester>o'byrne + latendresse + mcdonagh
!They can get way more than that!

halak(They already have 2 good goalies) + lang(UFA, negative value)

If you want both of these we would have to offer something big like:
Plekanec + Higgins + Gorges + Mcdonagh + 2rd pick

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12-08-2008, 01:38 AM
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I would think something along the lines of Plekanec + Higgins would be needed. I would actually do that deal.

Their values are a bit lower since they are RFAs (but clearly higher than if UFAs). Horton is 23, can get 30 goals 30-40 assists a season (on a good team), he is the big right-handed centre the Habs need and is signed to $4 million a year which would be a discount considering Plekanec/Higgins could fetch around $3-4 million each in the offseason.

It's much easier to stomach because of a guy like D'Agostini who is playing some great hockey and the fact the Habs have both Sergei and Gui sitting in the pressbox.

I like Plekanec and Higgins, don't get me wrong (well Plekanec not so much right now), but the Habs need to think about the future at the same time without sacrificing any ground now. Koivu is retiring soon and Plekanec is not a centre you can build a team around, neither is Maxwell. Horton on the otherhand...

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12-08-2008, 01:52 AM
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I'd give Higgins AND Plekanec for Horton.

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12-08-2008, 08:28 AM
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I have offered this in the trade forum, Pleks and Higgins for Horton straight up.

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12-08-2008, 09:49 AM
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Does Horton even play center anymore?

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12-08-2008, 10:22 AM
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I'd give Higgins AND Plekanec for Horton.
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I have offered this in the trade forum, Pleks and Higgins for Horton straight up.
Something else would have to come back this way for that package. I think we're underestimating the value of our players here in this case, or overestimating Horton.

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Does Horton even play center anymore?
I hear he's playing the wing, but he's a natural center.

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12-08-2008, 11:13 AM
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Horton FLA 3rd or 4th for Higgins and Pleks?

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I'd give Higgins AND Plekanec for Horton.
me too... but a draft pick or a prospect should come with Horton.

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12-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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me too... but a draft pick or a prospect should come with Horton.
Agreed if we have to include both Higgins and Plekanec, but I think that Plekanec for Horton one for one is pretty close to a fair deal for both teams.

If we must include both Higgins and Plekanec, I'd want Anthony Stewart coming our way as well, or Nick Boynton if we can make it work cap-wise.

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12-08-2008, 11:30 AM
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me too... but a draft pick or a prospect should come with Horton.
Although I think Horton is a very good hockey player, I would not give up Higs and Plek for him. I agree Horton is a bit better than Higs and, although he is struggling at the moment, Plekanec was our best centerman last year. They are both young and could each have as many points as Horton will this year and years to come, although both are not physical players compared to Horton.

Higs for Horton....yes
Plek for Horton....yes
Higs and Plek for Horton....no way
Higs and Plek for Horton and Weiss???

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12-08-2008, 11:32 AM
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Horton is also injured for a while at the moment.

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12-08-2008, 11:33 AM
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Agreed. We have too many dipsy-doodlers, players who like to stick handle with the puck and not enough quality grit who can score. Not a knock against Plekanec, simply that he's in the same mold as Kovalev, the Kostitsyn's, Tanguay, Koivu... Get a true power forward to complement our dipsy-doodlers!
You can put S.kost in that mold but not A.kost, the 2 brothers are different players. Andrei thrives on playing physical and being strong on the puck. He did a pretty good job last year in front of the net on the PP.

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12-08-2008, 11:36 AM
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You can put S.kost in that mold but not A.kost, the 2 brothers are different players. Andrei thrives on playing physical and being strong on the puck. He did a pretty good job last year in front of the net on the PP.
Actually, both can be physical when they want to be and they've both shown it at times, kind of like Kovalev. They problem is that it's not their bread and butter, not their natural style. They're dipsy-doodlers at heart. Horton is a bull in a china shop, which is what this team needs to get better balance. I'm not saying to get rid of all of the stick handlers here, but that we need a better balance.

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12-08-2008, 11:42 AM
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2 time 30 goal scorer, chronic underachiever????...young, plays better than latendresse, I'd take him.

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Higs and Plek for Horton and Weiss???
Not sure Martin would do that...

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Actually, both can be physical when they want to be and they've both shown it at times, kind of like Kovalev. They problem is that it's not their bread and butter, not their natural style. They're dipsy-doodlers at heart. Horton is a bull in a china shop, which is what this team needs to get better balance. I'm not saying to get rid of all of the stick handlers here, but that we need a better balance.
Horton is a lot like A.Kost. More finesse than power. The knock on him is that he is inconsistant from game to game. He has 40 goal potential.

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2 time 30 goal scorer, chronic underachiever????...young, plays better than latendresse, I'd take him.
He has the potential to score 40 and be a force every night. That's not the case right now.

I'm not opposed to trading for him but it depends on the price.

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Not sure Martin would do that...
Ok then we will trow in O'Byrne

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