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Ilya Kovalchuk vs. Marian Hossa

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Marian Hossa 50 52.63%
Ilya Kovalchuk 45 47.37%
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12-08-2008, 08:21 AM
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Ilya Kovalchuk vs. Marian Hossa

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12-08-2008, 08:38 AM
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Right now it's Hossa. He's been on a tear since signing with the Wings.

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I'll go with Hossa. He's a more complete player who can score on par with Kovalchuk.

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12-08-2008, 09:07 AM
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I would like to see Kovalchuk on a real team. He could probably be a top 5 player in the league, at least offensively.

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Right now...Hossa.

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12-08-2008, 10:54 AM
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I would like to see Kovalchuk on a real team. He could probably be a top 5 player in the league, at least offensively.
I'm actually almost of the belief that Kovalchuk isn't really the type of player that you could say "if only he were on a real team."

Maybe i'm crazy, but to me his game is so self-centered that it really wouldn't make that huge of a difference.

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12-08-2008, 11:15 AM
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Right now and overall.....Hossa.

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12-08-2008, 11:23 AM
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Definately Hossa, he has been on fire lately.

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12-08-2008, 11:40 AM
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Kovalchuk,just needs to be on a better team

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12-08-2008, 11:44 AM
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this poll was done when hossa was on the pens and kovalchuk won in a landslide. strange.

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12-08-2008, 11:45 AM
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12-08-2008, 11:48 AM
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Hossa had an off year last year and Kovalchuk didn't - I don't think it was an anti-Pens bias. It's close enough that it could go back and forth year to year.

Kovalchuk will probably never have to 2-way game that Hossa does - but when he's hot, it doesn't matter.

This year, Hossa.

In the end, Kovalchuk will have the better career numbers...except +/- maybe.

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12-08-2008, 12:41 PM
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this poll was done when hossa was on the pens and kovalchuk won in a landslide. strange.
And i'd be willing to bet that poll happened before the playoffs ended.

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right now Hossa

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I'm actually almost of the belief that Kovalchuk isn't really the type of player that you could say "if only he were on a real team."

Maybe i'm crazy, but to me his game is so self-centered that it really wouldn't make that huge of a difference.
It doesn't matter how self-centered you are. Just the presence of other good players means that the other team needs to focus on something else besides Kovalchuk.

It's not a coincidence that Kovalchuk had his best year when Hossa, Savard and Bondra were on his team.

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Hossa is ten times the two way player.

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It doesn't matter how self-centered you are. Just the presence of other good players means that the other team needs to focus on something else besides Kovalchuk.

It's not a coincidence that Kovalchuk had his best year when Hossa, Savard and Bondra were on his team.
I don't disagree entirely, but Bondra didn't do much of anything that year... and more importantly for Kovalchuk; the NHL called 10,000 additional penalties that year, he got 2 1/2 more PP mins per game than he did last season and scored 56 PP points (his 2nd best total is 33 PP points).

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Kovalchuk is the better player. Hossa is hotter and on a better team, but that doesn't mean he's better, this year, last year, or next year. Kovalchuk is still the better player.

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Hossa is ten times the two way player.
20x?

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12-08-2008, 04:37 PM
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I'm actually almost of the belief that Kovalchuk isn't really the type of player that you could say "if only he were on a real team."

Maybe i'm crazy, but to me his game is so self-centered that it really wouldn't make that huge of a difference.
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Hossa's a dirty *******

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Even if Kovy is a little better offensively, no way it can compensate for Hossa's 2 way play. To me, that makes the difference.

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12-09-2008, 01:29 AM
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what is amazing about hossa is how he's playing. he looks the same regardless of linemates. 13 of his 15 goals are ES.

he's playing with incredible determination. he might actually be too driven--sometimes he's a bit out of control. he has a large number of offensive zone and neutral zone penalties.

imo, he's actually harming the overall team play (but not the offense), b/c he doesn't play the same style as his linemates, so the unit is out of sync, and DRW's puck possession style (which is as important for defense as it is for offense) is not nearly as effective.

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Hossa by a bit. Kovalchuk isn't consistent enough to be a top 10 forward in the league but he's awfully close. Hossa IMO IS a top 10 forward.

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