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12-09-2008, 02:25 PM
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If games started at 7:30, more people would be in their seats instead of stuck on 95 or 76 at face-off time.
I agree with this completely, especially when you work up in Princeton like I do. I have to leave at 4:00 and beat rush hour if I expect to get there by 7. If I leave between 5:00-6:00, there is no way I am getting there by 7.

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12-09-2008, 03:07 PM
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I agree with this completely, especially when you work up in Princeton like I do. I have to leave at 4:00 and beat rush hour if I expect to get there by 7. If I leave between 5:00-6:00, there is no way I am getting there by 7.
I hadn't seen that post before you quoted it, but it makes perfect sense. I have no clue why they decided to start games at 7. I know how you feel about working in Princeton and having to drive down here. The Jersey game I went to up North was perfect example. I had to leave work by 4, in order to have enough time to stop at home, pick my friends up, fly like a bat out of hell up the turnpike, go through the hell hole that is Newark, and get inside. I barely made it on time, but somehow I got there.

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Lol, what? And what exactly has the NHL become? If all of that is your opinion, then why do you watch NHL hockey, or even post on this site for that matter?

Sorry, but it just struck me as pretty odd for someone with nearly 4,000 posts to say that they think the NHL is BORING, and the games lack emotion and flow. It's like....ummm, then what are you doing here on a hockey messageboard? Then again, maybe you come on here to discuss juniors and the international game, etc...if that's the case, I apologize...even though I don't quite understand where you're coming from.

Personally, I think NHL hockey is ****ing fantastic. That's why I spend a lot of time on this site talking about it.
Because he's still a Flyers fan? The majority of what he said is the truth, can you debate that games lack flow now? Half of them are power play fests that kill the flow of a good game. There really isn't much emotion in games aside from when we play the Penguins especially in early season games.

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12-09-2008, 05:41 PM
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If you look at it by percentage, as you should, we're a pathetic 12th in attendance. There's no way that our building is larger by enough to justify that!!!

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12-09-2008, 05:42 PM
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Remember, the Wach holds about 3,000 more people than the Igloo.

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12-09-2008, 05:44 PM
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If games started at 7:30, more people would be in their seats instead of stuck on 95 or 76 at face-off time.
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I agree with this completely, especially when you work up in Princeton like I do. I have to leave at 4:00 and beat rush hour if I expect to get there by 7. If I leave between 5:00-6:00, there is no way I am getting there by 7.
I remember games routinely starting at 8:00pm when I was younger, especially on Saturdays. I don't know about Philly, but that was certainly the case in Toronto and Montreal.

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12-09-2008, 05:47 PM
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Don't know what you're talking about, we're 4th in the NHL in average home attendance at 99.1% capacity.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2009
Most interesting stat from this link:

The Rangers play to well over 100% capacity on the road. Impressive.

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12-09-2008, 05:49 PM
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Because he's still a Flyers fan? The majority of what he said is the truth, can you debate that games lack flow now? Half of them are power play fests that kill the flow of a good game. There really isn't much emotion in games aside from when we play the Penguins especially in early season games.
Hockey is better now than it has been since the 80s. Not sure what you are watching.

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12-09-2008, 05:53 PM
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If you look at it by percentage, as you should, we're a pathetic 12th in attendance. There's no way that our building is larger by enough to justify that!!!
ESPN's percentages are wrong. Several of those buildings have had upgrades, so the capacities are wrong.

Do you really, really think Calgary sells 112%?

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12-09-2008, 05:58 PM
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Hm, if they have concourses from which you can see the ice (like a baseball park), then yes. It's Canada.

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You guys see the interview with Ritchie a few seconds ago? Had to be like 14 people there. I guess it's not that big of a deal, but I think fans should be there right at the start (if they can).

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Hm, if they have concourses from which you can see the ice (like a baseball park), then yes. It's Canada.
No. Trust me ... for example, I think the Saddledome's capacity is 19,300 or so now. They aren't at 112%.

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12-09-2008, 06:11 PM
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You guys see the interview with Ritchie a few seconds ago? Had to be like 14 people there. I guess it's not that big of a deal, but I think fans should be there right at the start (if they can).
I wish it were that easy, parking down there is a pain in the ass, I really should use the Subway a lot more.

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Another problem is fans might not wanna pay a lot money to see them play...Atlanta or Tampa. You'll see a packed house against old rivals like Pittsburgh, NYR, or Toronto.

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You guys see the interview with Ritchie a few seconds ago? Had to be like 14 people there. I guess it's not that big of a deal, but I think fans should be there right at the start (if they can).
Just try getting to the Wach from the suburbs by 7:00 if you work until 4:30. It's impossible. The Flyers should move their games back to 7:30 for weekday games. Hell, the Wings moved their Friday games at the Wachovia Center to 8pm because they had issues with fans getting in, and they only fill the building 60% or so.

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The Top bowl, aka the nose bleeds, seem to always be full.

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12-09-2008, 06:24 PM
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Hell, the Wings moved their Friday games at the Wachovia Center to 8pm because they had issues with fans getting in, and they only fill the building 60% or so.
60% pretty impressive considering their fans hafta travel 600 miles.

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12-09-2008, 06:28 PM
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60% pretty impressive considering their fans hafta travel 600 miles.
huh?

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I wont lie, hockey is not as emotional as it used to be. It's still exciting, but you can see why average fans aren't die hard. Gary Bettman has done a terrible job crafting this game into what it is today. Bring back the emotion and the game is damn near perfect. But, I still love hockey and I still love the flyers so I will continue to watch

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12-09-2008, 06:32 PM
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60% pretty impressive considering their fans hafta travel 600 miles.
If Im not mistaken he's referring to the Wings of the NLL

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Yeah I understand the situation of the Suburbs folk I agree to push the games to 7:30 wouldn't be bad at all.

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Just try getting to the Wach from the suburbs by 7:00 if you work until 4:30. It's impossible. The Flyers should move their games back to 7:30 for weekday games. Hell, the Wings moved their Friday games at the Wachovia Center to 8pm because they had issues with fans getting in, and they only fill the building 60% or so.
Really? I never have a problem coming in from Downingtown. I leave at like 5:15. Takes about 1:15 to get there taking 202-322-95.

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Really? I never have a problem coming in from Downingtown. I leave at like 5:15. Takes about 1:15 to get there taking 202-322-95.
The biggest problem areas are typically 76 (hey no kidding ) and 476. I work in Quakertown, so I have to leave before 5, and there's no escaping the 5 mph (if you're lucky) traffic on the Blue Route between Norristown and Springfield. It's a mess. You'd be surprised how much help that extra half hour would be.

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The biggest problem areas are typically 76 (hey no kidding ) and 476. I work in Quakertown, so I have to leave before 5, and there's no escaping the 5 mph (if you're lucky) traffic on the Blue Route between Norristown and Springfield. It's a mess. You'd be surprised how much help that extra half hour would be.
Hence why I go the other way. It's a longer distance but you always know exactly what you're going to get, even during the middle of rush hour. There's a couple back ways around some of the traffic too like turning left on Matlack off 202 and cutting down to Brinton Lake and also getting off onto Chichester from 322 and taking that down to 95.

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60% pretty impressive considering their fans hafta travel 600 miles.
Are you trying to be funny or not realize that he's referring to the lacrosse team?

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